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    Quote Originally Posted by gotnowheels View Post
    Just to clarify things, are you talking about "Quasars"? Kay mao pud ni akong questions. Personally, I have an idea how quasars are formed, but the question is that if the gravitational pull of black holes is so great that even light cannot exist, then technically quasars move faster than a speed of light, it does violated the law of physics, but according to scientist, black holes are following a higher law, since in a black hole, all law of physics are broken down, time itself stops.

    How I wish nga naay astronomy club diri sa cebu. Is their any groups na pwede mag amot amot para mo himo tag og telescope?
    yes!, quasars ako ge ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsunade View Post
    yes!, quasars ako ge ask.
    so does this mean that quasars are technically is fater than light? if not how can they escape the gravitational pull

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    Quote Originally Posted by emailroy2002 View Post
    light speed x distance
    ------------------------------ = blackhole jets
    velocity

    ha? explain?

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    grabeh nga topic. sungo man ko

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    It is not light particles that are expelled from quasar jets but matter emitting light particles. Light speed remains the same.

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    wew nice topic... basa2x lang sa ko...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysley View Post
    It is not light particles that are expelled from quasar jets but matter emitting light particles. Light speed remains the same.
    so you're saying that these particles were moving faster than light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsunade View Post
    so you're saying that these particles were moving faster than light?
    No. Light is a particle and it has finite speed, meaning its speed remains the same no matter what. That fact is not easily bent without breaking the laws of physics.

    No Matter can travel at the speed faster than light. What I'm saying is that it is not light itself that is being expelled from quasar jets but matter that is emitting light. Cosmic matter made up of helium, carbon, hydrogen etc.. That jet you see from quasars is cosmic matter being expelled.

    So considering the fact that matter cannot travel at the speed of light, it is safe to assume that matter expelled from quasar jets are not travelling at light speed or faster. Although it is very very fast that it is almost chasing the speed of the light particles it is emitting.

    The speed of light particles emitted from cosmic matter in a quasar jet remains the same. There is no increase in velocity.

    Here are links to clarify what I'm saying:

    Can Matter Travel at Light Speed? | LiveScience
    Superluminal motion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysley View Post
    No. Light is a particle and it has finite speed, meaning its speed remains the same no matter what. That fact is not easily bent without breaking the laws of physics.

    No Matter can travel at the speed faster than light. What I'm saying is that it is not light itself that is being expelled from quasar jets but matter that is emitting light. Cosmic matter made up of helium, carbon, hydrogen etc.. That jet you see from quasars is cosmic matter being expelled.

    So considering the fact that matter cannot travel at the speed of light, it is safe to assume that matter expelled from quasar jets are not travelling at light speed or faster. Although it is very very fast that it is almost chasing the speed of the light particles it is emitting.

    The speed of light particles emitted from cosmic matter in a quasar jet remains the same. There is no increase in velocity.

    Here are links to clarify what I'm saying:

    Can Matter Travel at Light Speed? | LiveScience
    Superluminal motion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Bro, I'm confused. These are excess matters that is being sucked by Black Holes. Now, if light itself cannot escape from it, then how do these Matters, excess gas being released? They should have a velocity faster than light if they can escape the pull?

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