furniture business

[morphian]

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kami sad bai, we had an export business 2002 but nag shut down mi coz sayup amo approach sa market. lisud amo raw materials pangitaon and gamay ra ang kabalo sa pagprocess. kusog biya ang demand but lisud gyud kung kung ang capital.

interesado baya ko mubalik ug exporting karon but murag lisud man na inyo gisulti nga daghan na diay nag-shut down karon tungod sa China. i'll look further into it, and probably dili pa time karon mubalik ko ana.

[lestat1116]

kami sad bai, we had an export business 2002 but nag shut down mi coz sayup amo approach sa market. lisud amo raw materials pangitaon and gamay ra ang kabalo sa pagprocess. kusog biya ang demand but lisud gyud kung kung ang capital.

interesado baya ko mubalik ug exporting karon but murag lisud man na inyo gisulti nga daghan na diay nag-shut down karon tungod sa China. i'll look further into it, and probably dili pa time karon mubalik ko ana.

unsa inyo materials? wat kind of furnitures?

[Fox]

Mga Bro and Sis /Fellow istoryans,
Ayaw mo ka Discourage ug Dili nato basihan nga hinay ang mga Orders sa Pinas togud sa China, ( global Problem ni siya ) Karon sab sa China Hinay sab ang Export Orders, Daghan sab Mga Manufacturer diri sa China Karon nga mag Close down and ilang Operation Kato ning mga Traditional Furniture Makers,nga nag salid lang sab sa Export ang ilang Operation, Ang Kosug nga mga Orders Diri and Local Market Dag han na ka a yong mga Local People nga kuartahan nga ma a afford bisag tag 30,000 RMB to 40,000RMB per set ang Living Group This is a combination of 3 -4 different Materials.
Sa akong pag istar diri Dag han sab kaayo kong Nakat o an sa ilang Operation ug ilang mga Pa a gi ug unsa-on pag lower sa Cost, Ma o unta ni ang atong tan- awon ug unsa-on na to pag Produce ug certain Product that the design will not be affected but we can produce it in a lower cost, Kay diri sa China Dili Barato ang ilang mga Paliton ug ang ilang sweldo min. ug 1000.RBM none skilled worker so mas mahal pa sa ato a (Pinas ) Ug wala sab ni sila ug ilang ka ugaligun nga Materials, Ex. Rattan they are Buying it from Singapore,Indonesia and some other Countries who had this Materials, Kita na a ta ato-a nga mga Materials so we had all the Edge and mostly sa mga Pinoy are Edukado, Diri sa China Daghan kaayo nag trabaho sa Furniture galing sa Probinsya nga mga Farmers amo ni ang among ki pang Train. So we had all the Edge and the opportunities compare to them, This is just my observation for the pass 14 years in china,
So mga Bro and Sis we will keep up and aim to Redevelope the Furniture Business in the Phiulippines.
Kong Dili ta ma ka Kompet nila we will Work with them, What do you Think Guys, Who are interested to work out Together with China ? I will Be Going Home before the Chinese New Holidays Start,we can Talk something about this matters if someone is interested.
Thanks.

[lestat1116]

its not china alone ato kontra ani. indonesia vietnam n malaysia. cheaper ila price kay ila labor is cheaper compare sa ato. ato labor is very high then ang materials pud mahal.

[Fox]

Yes All our Neighboring Countries Who had the Materials and Technology, But the Strongiest of them all is China, I did Start my carrier as Furnitur Designer for more than 10 Companies before in the Philippines, And then went to other Countries to study more and learned more about this industry, ( When you are away from your Home you will Know more about your Home) I also had a lots of friends who are now in Vitnam, Indonesia, Malaysia and even in India, Indian Now is becoming to be one of the cheapest furniture maker in the World. But still they can not bit China (not in Prices, but in Technologies and Management Ability to Produce More and Develope More Products for the Market to Choose, Why many Buyers call the Funiture Industry in our Country is a sunset Industry already, Thier are many reasons why, I firmly belived that the No.1 Reason is our Political situation and our Government don't care about this Indusrtry, Our Governmaent does'nt help our Manufacturer and Workers, Yes we had Trade Shows every Year (CFI and other organizations) Do you think is enough, for me it is just a respect to the Tax we payed them, They are not doing thier Job and they are not helping this Industry to Grow, Iam very very Sorry for my Personal Openion but this is my Observation and Personal Experience in this Industry for more than 25 Years, I Love this Indusry very Much for this is my Bread and Butter,

It is my WISH to Revived The Furniture Industry in the Philippines, or Redesign its Sysrtem to serve the global Requirements, You Guys are in this Industry alrteady can HELP a lots, I still Believed that we can do something for this Industry or we will lost it,

I will be going Home in Cebu before the Chinese New Year Holidays Starts, if you are interested we can Talk Funiture Business, Just let me know. Thanks and Sorry for the Loooong Reply

[lestat1116]

fox do u have sample designs for free para magamit lang namo. m kinda low in designs. i prefer in rattan and a lil in wicker products. mao ra man pass2x buhaton namo gud.

and if ang 125 madayon patay. maypa mo sirado nalang mi.

[Fox]

lestat1116,Wa man Probs and design brod, Rattan and wicker with wood combination and concept sa design and mga bag-o karon, Combination of 3-4 different Materials looks more high end product and expensive compared to single, and the labor cost as well as the materials cost does'nt count a lots but improved a lots as far as the designs and the presentation of our product, Do not produce the low end products with the Traditional exposed rattan with weaving designs this concept no more works and to the buyer point of view this is a very very cheap, Her in China this Concept Buyers will onlu pay $50. -60. for a set of 5,- 2 Lounge chair, 1 loveseat,1 coffee table and 1 end table, How can you bit it? Brod this is what i mean to Redirect the direction of our system , We should have to buy new machines and equipments and tools ect, Combinatiuon Looks new to the Buyers View, It is the Skill and the Technical Knowledge of a certain Manufacturer to come up with new Things (PRD) and Filipinos are Good on this Things only if he or She is Exposed to the this Industry,Market Requirements and the Improvements of facilities of the Factory, Sometimes and allmost (not all) Filipino Manufacturers seldom had a program of improvements, This is also what i had learned here.

Brod, try to evaluate your operation, Capability,(Machines and Workers) Buyers Market Requirements ( Low end, Mid or Mid High or High End ) Company's Program of Improvements ( Financial,Technical,Space Work Force ) Then you Know the present direction you had,

(Note ) Do not re direct your direction just to compenciate the abilities and the Technical capabilities of your Work Force, Train Them or Hire new people to help them, New investment had to be carefull.
What do you mean by 125 Please clarify

[lestat1116]

125 increase of wage sa pinas. if mo push thru na mo close jud among company. its too high.

wala kaayo mi wood. but we can handle wood. we're more into rattan wicker n bamboo. m looking for new designs and materials. we dont have that much machine more on skills ra amo. requirements sa amo buyers are more into mid - high. most workers namo know how. but the problem is if walay order they tend to slow down the work para dili mag 3 - 4 days amo work. thats wat i heard from the foreman. naka notice lang cya.

[Fox]

Now I know what 125 is, Pila kaha ka % ang increase? This is good and this bad, But I still Belived that we can do something about this, Sa Pinas dili ta as and labor Most Oversea rate 1 -2 hours rate can already supply your meal for a day,But in Pinas 1 day (8 hrs) working can not buy a meal for a day, See, So 125 is not bad as what as the Businessman point of view,this will ease the all filipino workers not in the Furniture Sector alone. I think business sector (Furniture I mean) should change strategies as far as Marketing, Production and Developing of new products, Brod Go to SM or any Big Department Stores , Try to look for Philipine Made products,see more in Home Furnishing, Kitchen,Furnitures and others, I can be wrong , But when I go to SM even can opener we dont have our own product,We are very weak in Product Developement, Most items (not all ) are Imported.

In Furniture Yes we have product developement, but I dont Think is enough, Designers, PRD Department Did'nt Research More on How to Produce a certain item that can not utilies more on manual labor, Why not use machines to redesign the items it will be more more cheaper and faster and you dont need to much work force( I know some department can not use machine), example Weaving Department, You can Machine weave the part of weaving ( I dont Know now if this is available in the Philippines machine weaving )it is Cheaper, Bending the Rattan yes it can not be Machine but it can be semi Mechanized, so its much faster and cheaper, My friend thier are many many wayson how to make the cost lower I just dont know if you had a department who had a Technical knowledge in controling the cost , designs, Procedures of making a certain product its because its items had different procedures and Idea's on how to come up the Requirements required by our clients.
You are making Mid High items, This items are not cheap and not expensive, Most Companies are into this Market Stage ( even China) so you much be very clear on yopur operation ,

The Boss is not the one who pay the salary of the workers, But it is our Buyers , If this is the Concept of your Company ,then the 125 is not a problem in your Operation.

[lestat1116]

125 is a problem in my operation. if walay order walay ma sweldo and everything is slow this days. if they gona increase it. wala na mi pangsweldo sa tanan. and ang dollar is low. ni ingon amo buyer that the price in the philippines is very high compare to indonesia. and indonesia nindot na ila product compare before. most of our buyers are buying from indonesia and china kay barato ilang selling price. if mo increase ang sweldo sa pinas everything will rise and exporters cant raise the prices samot mi ka pildi.