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    Surrogate Mothers: Womb for Rent

    The midday sun is ferociously hot outside the Akanksha Infertility Clinic, a scuffed concrete building in the small Indian city of Anand. Crammed into a single patch of shade by the gate, a stray cow and a family of beggars — caked so uniformly in dung-colored dust they resemble clay models — wait out the noontime heat. Inside, the lobby is jammed with barefoot female patients in circus-bright saris. Nurses in white Indian tunics scuttle among them, hollering out names and brandishing medical files. The air smells faintly of sweat and damp cement. On the walls, blurry photos of babies and newspaper clippings celebrate the clinic's raison d'κtre: "The Cradle of the World" declares one headline.

    In this case, the metaphor is also literal. The Akanksha clinic is at the forefront of India's booming trade in so-called reproductive tourism — foreigners coming to the country for infertility treatments such as in vitro fertilization. The clinic's main draw, however, is its success using local women to have foreigners' babies. Surrogacy costs about $12,000 in India, including all medical expenses and the surrogate's fee. In the U.S., the same procedure can cost up to $70,000.

    How surrogacy came to be so popular in the choking backwater of Anand, a dairy community with a population of 150,000 in India's western state of Gujarat, is a long story. The short answer is Dr. Nayna Patel, 47, the clinic's director. A charismatic woman with flowing hair and a toothpaste-commercial smile, Patel single-handedly put Anand on the map when, in 2003, she orchestrated the surrogacy of a local woman who wanted to "lend" her womb to her U.K.-based daughter. The woman gave birth to test-tube twins — her own genetic grandchildren — and the event made headlines worldwide. Afterward, Patel was inundated with requests for surrogacy. She now has 45 surrogate mothers on her books, mostly impoverished women from nearby villages. Twenty-seven of them are currently pregnant, and each will be paid between $5000 and $7000 — the equivalent to upwards of 10 years' salary for rural Indians. More than 50 babies have been born at the clinic in the past three years, half to Westerners or Indians living overseas.

    Another example of third-world exploitation? Globalization gone mad? The system certainly lends itself to the criticism that foreign women unwilling or unable to pay high Western fees happily exploit poor women at a 10th of the price it would cost back home. The system also avoids the legal red tape and ill-defined surrogacy laws women face in the U.S. (Not to mention that India, unlike some developing countries, has a fairly advanced medical system and doctors who speak English.) Or is it a mutually beneficial relationship? By some estimates, Indian surrogacy is already a $445-million-a-year business.

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    ok ra basta si anne curtis ang mo hangyo.ahaha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by angel_brey View Post
    Pero what if DILI imuha nits? Like the surrogate mothers in INDIA? The sperm and egg are somebody else's and not yours! All you have to do is CARRY the baby in your body for 9months then after you deliver it, they pay you?

    I mean, could you really still consider the kid YOURS when not even a part of it is really yours? The egg and sperm to make the baby is not yours. Simply put, it is as if you are just an OVEN used by the parents to bake their cake or their baby for that matter? Could you? mind boggling really!
    Hi sis. Even if the sperm and the eggs aren't mine, which may technically disqualifies me as the mother of the child, I would definitely consider myself as the real mother. Only a real mother takes care and gives life to that little fetus in the womb. And with that, I would not allow myself to be a surrogate mother not even of Brad Pitt's and Angelina's next child. Ngano gud tawn surrogate, si Brad Pitt nalang ug ako kay mas gwapa pako ni Angelina noh. Hehehe.
    Last edited by dearlabe; 10-30-2011 at 02:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitwit View Post
    honestly i think the baby is still somehow a part of you despite that the egg and sperm arent yours or your partner's! imagine carrying it for 9-10 months and feeling his/her heartbeat everytime you go for your monthly pregnancy check up? how about everytime you feel them move inside you? and their first cry to greet the world? isnt it amazing? i dunno, i just dont think that i can do it.
    Yeah me too! Murag lahi ra jud coz like pareho man sad ta situation, we had a hard time conceiving plus when I got pregnant already, I had certain complications along the way which somehow made me cry every OB check up thinking I might lose her. PLUS pa jud to make things worst, when I gave birth already, we had to leave her in the hospital for 1 week for antibiotics treatment coz I had a dry delivery and she didn't have any amniotic fluid anymore in there for God knows how many days already.

    Those 1 week was like torture for me coz she wasn't with me or IN me rather and yet she wasn't there with us sa balay coz we left her in the hospital for her treatment. For those nights, I often times found myself crying of the thought that she still was not there with us and I prayed she will be okay!

    When a colleague of mine asked me to be her surrogate of some sort, nice ang thought coz like they will pay you, but then murag am not sure kung kaya ba nako ma let go ang baby! Nag sakit man gani ko na 1 week gebilin sa hospital akong baby after I gave birth, how much more when you give a baby away from you forever? Lahi ra jud! Murag sakit jud!

    But as for the INDIAN SURROGATES, I guess they would just have to suck it in for them coz things are really bad for them and their situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by angel_brey View Post
    I mean, could you really still consider the kid YOURS when not even a part of it is really yours? The egg and sperm to make the baby is not yours. Simply put, it is as if you are just an OVEN used by the parents to bake their cake or their baby for that matter? Could you? mind boggling really!
    Well, the baby's not yours, but it's yours too. Haha, libog much? Technically not yours kay the baby didn't inherit your DNA, but it's yours sad kay it's your blood that nourished the baby, it's your effort at making lifestyle changes to ensure the baby's optimal well-being.

    But these people who agree to surrogacy, I'm sure they also have their reasons for doing so. Poverty, maybe. But I don't think we can really understand their position kay dli man cguro ta under the poverty line diri? (I mean, naa tay computer - kay nganong naka iStorya.net - or at least, naka internet cafe ta..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by angel_brey View Post
    Yeah me too! Murag lahi ra jud coz like pareho man sad ta situation, we had a hard time conceiving plus when I got pregnant already, I had certain complications along the way which somehow made me cry every OB check up thinking I might lose her. PLUS pa jud to make things worst, when I gave birth already, we had to leave her in the hospital for 1 week for antibiotics treatment coz I had a dry delivery and she didn't have any amniotic fluid anymore in there for God knows how many days already.

    Those 1 week was like torture for me coz she wasn't with me or IN me rather and yet she wasn't there with us sa balay coz we left her in the hospital for her treatment. For those nights, I often times found myself crying of the thought that she still was not there with us and I prayed she will be okay!

    When a colleague of mine asked me to be her surrogate of some sort, nice ang thought coz like they will pay you, but then murag am not sure kung kaya ba nako ma let go ang baby! Nag sakit man gani ko na 1 week gebilin sa hospital akong baby after I gave birth, how much more when you give a baby away from you forever? Lahi ra jud! Murag sakit jud!

    But as for the INDIAN SURROGATES, I guess they would just have to suck it in for them coz things are really bad for them and their situation!
    my thought about this is surrogacy can be wonderful because you can help those parents who cant have a child, if theres no money involved and the surrogate mothers are only doing it to help out the couples then thats great i have no problem with that but if they're doing it for a living then i'd say OH MY GOD! get me a gun and ill shoot her down! if you make surrogacy as a business then definately your just a money-hungry person and its the same as selling babies!!!!

    what will be their so called profession? there's only 2 that i can think of, either their selling their body or renting their womb i cant think of anything else!
    Last edited by nitwit; 10-30-2011 at 02:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dearlabe View Post
    Hi sis. Even if the sperm and the eggs aren't mine, which may technically disqualifies me as the mother of the child, I would definitely consider myself as the real mother. Only a real mother takes care and gives life to that little fetus in the womb. And with that, I would not allow myself to be a surrogate mother not even of Brad Pitt's and Angelina's next child. Ngano gud tawn surrogate, si Brad Pitt nalang ug ako kay mas gwapa pako ni Angelina noh. Hehehe.
    Hahhaha yeah! Daghan na btaw case ingun ana! Mao btaw na before they go on with the process, naa gyud sila ipa sign up na agreement with the SURROGATE MOTHER na wala na jud sila labot sa kid or something and that dili sila mag gukod thinking it is theirs jud or something! Daghan naman nahitabo ana sa US na ang surrogate mother nigukod kay dili ka let go sa kid coz they feel ilaha jud!

    There also was a case here sa Philippines, (although sa movie ra to ehhehe) na ang tinuod na mother na gegamit lang para maoy mu carry sa baby kay ang wife dili ka anak kay nigukod jud sa anak after quite some time! Whether to get more money or what!

    Kita mga BABAE, we really would find it hard to let go whether the kid is OURS or we are just a SURROGATE!

    As for the guys, I guess with all the cases of unwanted pregnancies with GUYS leaving the girls and not taking credit or taking responsibility for it, I guess for them, it is ok to be a BABY DADDY or SPERM DONOR for that matter! ehehe Murag even with the issue of VIRGINITY, wala man gani na sila pake! ehhee unsa pa kaha ug kana ra nga SPERM ra ge ask from them! Unless there are guys out there who also still want to have something to do with the kid or are emotional in that sense?

    Naa pa ba? ehehe hmmmmmmmmmm

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    oh cmon ms dentist.. you dont boggle my mind even for a microsecond with this question.. really

    pangayoon na diay ang sperm karon? tsk...

    well the Good Book says.. ask and you shall receive.. then I ll give if asked...

    these genes are high end variety though. honest..

    must I submit a resume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmboy View Post
    oh cmon ms dentist.. you dont boggle my mind even for a microsecond with this question.. really

    pangayoon na diay ang sperm karon? tsk...

    well the Good Book says.. ask and you shall receive.. then I ll give if asked...

    these genes are high end variety though. honest..

    must I submit a resume?
    Hilason, naa pa diay kay sperm nga nikupos naman na? Feeler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dearlabe View Post
    Hilason, naa pa diay kay sperm nga nikupos naman na? Feeler!
    Kabalo ka unsa meaning ana K U P O S?

    KUng Pasulod Ol Sperm nato, hatagi ko anak ... surely thick and viscous sa kadaghan ang sperm count ani if si Dearlabe ang muingon ug "hatagi ko ug anak Farmboy"...

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