Story of Creation VS Theory of Evolution.

[JawBreaker]

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I just want to show that we never came from evolution but by creation.
If many believed from evolution then why the evolution stops?
We can read in the book of Genesis that human has nose but until now we still have nose.

evolution is a theory not a proven fact.... and what about genesis ..."In the beginniiiinnnggggg..... blah-blah".... are these proven by whom?by the head of the churchor by the voice in our heads?? coz these are not even facts.

and what's the connection?? do you mean that when something evolves their pelvis or the ears or their ribcage will disconnect or dislocate? or the nose will evolve into something like a horn or a bookshelf?? is that what you think of it?

it did not stop... cause until now we are slowly evolving to fit in our ever changing world, some may die but some will survive. the only part of human body that didnt seem to serve its purpose is the male nipple. hehe.

[rcruman]

Fact has evidence and proof.
Genesis means the beginning or the origin.
Like your gene its the blueprint of our body or it can trace to our origin.
Evolution is from micro to macro, from single celled bacteria (like sprotozoa).
But in Genesis its stated that man came from creation of God.

Now my friend tell me some words in the book genesis that is questionable or a theory.

and what's the connection?? do you mean that when something evolves their pelvis or the ears or their ribcage will disconnect or dislocate? or the nose will evolve into something like a horn or a bookshelf?? is that what you think of it?

Evolution is changing from your current physical appearance, what has microbes that human has?

it did not stop... cause until now we are slowly evolving to fit in our ever changing world, some may die but some will survive. the only part of human body that didnt seem to serve its purpose is the male nipple. hehe.

Can you give me other part of the body you know that doesn't serve its purpose.

Peace!

[Sanosuke]

Our cathecist and religion teacher, a Catholic priest, told us that Man is created by God thru evolution. The story about Adam and Eve is just a story...

The bible is not a scientific or historical book.. it is a book of faith...

[rcruman]

Not all in the bible is about faith.
There's a scientific and history.
The bible told about the kings of israel and the ceasars.
Give an example in the bible which is not scientific and historic.
Faith is something to hope which are not seen.
Holy scriptures are inspired by God. (read 2 timothy 3:15-17).
Do you believe that the bible is a Word of God or the bible contains the Word of God?
Don't believe in your catheist and religion teacher believe in the word of God in the bible.
Man is close to error, but the word of God is not.

Peace!

[IceInHeLL]

And here we are again about the Bible being the Word of God.

Not because the Church said that the Bible is the word of God, it doesn't mean that it really is. The Church said that the world is flat, but has been proven to be spherical and I'm sure you don't believe that the world is still flat. The Church also believed that the Earth is the center of the universe but that too is not true. The earth revolves around the sun like the rest of the known planets.

We did evolved and still do. Like the rest of the animals, there are traces of our evolution. Charles Darwin, considered heretical by the Church. Darwin has his evidences but the Church still clings to their tradition. No wonder why the Church and science are not in good terms. But evolution takes hundreds if not thousands of years for us to really notice it in our lifetime. The Bible is a book of faith but there are a lot of things in the Bible that are not scientifically or historically correct. Thus it is wrong to actually associate it with science and history. But it doesn't mean that the Bible is also all wrong, scientifically and historically.

The scribes of the Bible may have their faith to guide them but I think it is totally wrong to accept that it is really the word of GOd.

The scriptures were made by man, selected to be included in the Bible by man. I just can't fathom the idea that a man likes the idea of playing God. I think that is the mistake of the Church. If only they were more honest, Christianity will not be in much peril as it is today.

Yes, I believe that we evolved from a much simplier being. From a single cell, to an animal, to the caveman, to the modern man (but more evolution from in-between each mentioned). Evolution varies from one creature to another. Just like the viruses. They too evolved. And so do we and the rest of the animals. How come there are still apes? Well, lets just say ape A evolved faster than ape B. Ape A kids were more like the evolved Ape A and so on. After thousand of years, Ape A became us while Ape B became the modern day apes.

[JawBreaker]

in other words... Faith means "Tu-o na lang aron ta madali"

kung di ka mo-tuo ingnon ka "wala kay faith". PAET

[rcruman]

I didn't say that the bible is the Word of God.
I ask a question if the bible is the Word of God or the bible contain the Word of GOd.

Jawbreaker wrote:
in other words... Faith means "Tu-o na lang aron ta madali"
kung di ka mo-tuo ingnon ka "wala kay faith". PAET

The first thing to know if your Faith is right or True.
Faith is something to hope which was not seen.
True faith won't force you to believe it.
It's up to you, God give you free will to use.


I still believe that we are created by God not by Evolution.
Man is so complex for us to understand.

But one thing for us to think, not all man was created by the will of God.

Peace!

[JawBreaker]

According to Mark Twain, having faith is believing in something you know just ain't so.

isn't it?

[rcruman]

There's so many kinds of Faith.
Faith can be trust or hope.
But Faith to God must be based on the Holy Scriptures.
It's written:
And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. 1 Corinthians 4:6.

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 1 John 1:1-4.

But to have faith in man is questionable.
Peace!

[The_Child]

hay unsaon.

I just want to show that we never came from evolution but by creation.
If many believed from evolution then why the evolution stops?
We can read in the book of Genesis that human has nose but until now we still have nose.

Until now Evolution is still a theory not a proven fact.
But creation is something that we will be amazed.
Enumerate parts of your body that is not right or in wrong location or position.
Then you will believe that everything was in place and was on purpose.
Then it will lead you to understand the works of God the Almighty.

Peace!

so if you want to show it, then publish it in a journal or something. Parts of your body that is not right or in wrong location or position? the appendix, it is an evolutionary remnant of our ancestors digestive system. and while your at it, also study embryology.

Now my friend tell me some words in the book genesis that is questionable or a theory.

and what's the connection?? do you mean that when something evolves their pelvis or the ears or their ribcage will disconnect or dislocate? or the nose will evolve into something like a horn or a bookshelf?? is that what you think of it?

Evolution is changing from your current physical appearance, what has microbes that human has?

it did not stop... cause until now we are slowly evolving to fit in our ever changing world, some may die but some will survive. the only part of human body that didnt seem to serve its purpose is the male nipple. hehe.

Can you give me other part of the body you know that doesn't serve its purpose.

Peace!

Evolution does not stop Unless the World stops spinning.

Not all in the bible is about faith.
There's a scientific and history.
The bible told about the kings of israel and the ceasars.
Give an example in the bible which is not scientific and historic.
Faith is something to hope which are not seen.
Holy scriptures are inspired by God. (read 2 timothy 3:15-17).
Do you believe that the bible is a Word of God or the bible contains the Word of God?
Don't believe in your catheist and religion teacher believe in the word of God in the bible.
Man is close to error, but the word of God is not.

Peace!

The two stories of Creation in Genesis, Apocalypse, and among many others. Holy Scriptures are inspired by God or by divine lunacy one could never know, but submit to faith. And to have faith that there is God is the same with somebody who holds to have faith that there is no God. Who speaks the truth then? when two person talks about faith, faith in God's existence and Faith in God's non-existence?

Man is close to error, yes true, such is why we should not trust man when he says things that are beyond, such as God. Man is close to error, so why would we believe Man's conception of God?


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We did evolved and still do. Like the rest of the animals, there are traces of our evolution. Charles Darwin, considered heretical by the Church. Darwin has his evidences but the Church still clings to their tradition. No wonder why the Church and science are not in good terms. But evolution takes hundreds if not thousands of years for us to really notice it in our lifetime. The Bible is a book of faith but there are a lot of things in the Bible that are not scientifically or historically correct. Thus it is wrong to actually associate it with science and history. But it doesn't mean that the Bible is also all wrong, scientifically and historically.

The scribes of the Bible may have their faith to guide them but I think it is totally wrong to accept that it is really the word of GOd.

The scriptures were made by man, selected to be included in the Bible by man. I just can't fathom the idea that a man likes the idea of playing God. I think that is the mistake of the Church. If only they were more honest, Christianity will not be in much peril as it is today.

Yes, I believe that we evolved from a much simplier being. From a single cell, to an animal, to the caveman, to the modern man (but more evolution from in-between each mentioned). Evolution varies from one creature to another. Just like the viruses. They too evolved. And so do we and the rest of the animals. How come there are still apes? Well, lets just say ape A evolved faster than ape B. Ape A kids were more like the evolved Ape A and so on. After thousand of years, Ape A became us while Ape B became the modern day apes.

Whats up with you people and your fetish with the Ape? Early Humanoids perhaps but was it really the Ape? I dunno, but i dont think it was, best if somebody in this forum in the very least read The Origin of Species. And evolution is held true by the Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church, what do you mean cling to their tradition? The Church accepts Evolution dont you know that?

There's so many kinds of Faith.
Faith can be trust or hope.
But Faith to God must be based on the Holy Scriptures.
It's written:
And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. 1 Corinthians 4:6.

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 1 John 1:1-4.

But to have faith in man is questionable.
Peace!

The bible never said anything about its own perfection or said anything that it is Divine. Did it?

I didn't say that the bible is the Word of God.
I ask a question if the bible is the Word of God or the bible contain the Word of GOd.

Jawbreaker wrote:
in other words... Faith means "Tu-o na lang aron ta madali"
kung di ka mo-tuo ingnon ka "wala kay faith". PAET

The first thing to know if your Faith is right or True.
Faith is something to hope which was not seen.
True faith won't force you to believe it.
It's up to you, God give you free will to use.


I still believe that we are created by God not by Evolution.
Man is so complex for us to understand.

But one thing for us to think, not all man was created by the will of God.

Peace!

Not all man was created by the will of God? unsa mana girape si God outofnowhere that some Men were created by Him but not in his will? God is Spirit, and EVolution is Spirit-In-Action, Evolution is God's hands guiding us towards our unity back to him.