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[garyg]

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.... we share the same ideals. why should i listen to a person who is hypocrite-personified. i just go and visit the church, without the Holy Mass, and talk to God.

Amen... to that

[iloveyou4ever]

See how perfect this people are? Shame to them (CBCP)!

[dacs]

this is the reason why i seldom go to church. i'm not used to go to church every sunday, but tagsa ra kaayu. i hate priests preaching and hosting mass every sunday. unya deep inside, magkasasala ra diay.

Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1550:

This presence of Christ in the minister is not to be understood as if the latter were preserved from all human weaknesses, the spirit of domination, error, even sin. The power of the Holy Spirit does not guarantee all acts of ministers in the same way. While this guarantee extends to the sacraments, so that even the minister's sin cannot impede the fruit of grace, in many other acts the minister leaves human traces that are not always signs of fidelity to the Gospel and consequently can harm the apostolic fruitfulness of the Church.

The last statement fits you snugly. Yet, you must know that the same Catechism says in paragraph 1324:

The Eucharist is "the source and summit of the Christian life." "The other sacraments, and indeed all ecclesiastical ministries and works of the apostolate, are bound up with the Eucharist and are oriented toward it. For in the blessed Eucharist is contained the whole spiritual good of the Church, namely Christ himself, our Pasch."

You deny yourself the Eucharist. You see the faults of the priests. By doing both acts, what good have you done?

[dacs]

See how perfect this people are? Shame to them (CBCP)!

When did they claim perfection?

[dacs]

.... we share the same ideals. why should i listen to a person who is hypocrite-personified. i just go and visit the church, without the Holy Mass, and talk to God.

By saying that the person is hypocrisy personified, you are believing that there is nothing in and of the person that is good. Really? How did you know? Why so sweeping an accusation?

[Desert Father]

People judge priest even before they are given an opportunity to explain their side. Its so sad really. Here is one radio commentator who highlight the alleged abuses of a certain priest in Santander. He ridiculed the priest in his program calling him names.

Now lets compare it to a politician or a powerful person who is accused of rape. I doubt if this radio commentator could ridicule the said powerful person the way he ridiculed the priest.

The priests are singled out because unlike a powerful drug lord or politician or any other personality, priest wont fight back.

My point is let justice take its course before we condemned the priest.

[SamuraiArcher]

^^mao na ni karon? i-compare na nato ang priest to a drug lord ug politician...unsaon.....

[fingolfin]

By saying that the person is hypocrisy personified, you are believing that there is nothing in and of the person that is good. Really? How did you know? Why so sweeping an accusation?

... why, is it wrong to talk directly to God and not listen to this hypocritical priest??

[M@rv|n]

Dili ko kasiguro but like a loving father who loves his son, imo gyud nga tapin-an ang dautang binuhatan sa imong anak, kung nakasala man gani. Vidal as I see it is not a man of trouble. He is not a confrontitional type. Mao na nga labi na karon nga kadaghanan sa mga katoliko mga maru nasad kaayo. Giingon nalang cguro ato sa Cardinal.

Ang delikado lang ug tungod sa kamaru ron sa mga katoliko mogamay na unya nuon ang mosimba.

the cardinal has a reputation for caution in the midst of controversy. we already know that he dont throw any comments without hearing the other side of the coin or while investigations are still going on.

and if the priest stays in that town or at least says something about the issue do you thing it would do gud? what do u think would happen to the people esp those who have lil faith upon constantly hearing this issue?

i think one of the reason of our beloved cardinal's act is fair trial and avoid trial by publicity.

konsentidor is just an overstatement.

... why, is it wrong to talk directly to God and not listen to this hypocritical priest??

theres nothing wrong with it .... check out dacs post on the excerpt of "Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1550:"

i guess wat dacs wanted to say that just because the priest is a sinner you dont go to the church anymore, you dont take the eucharist or even hear the mass anymore.

[profiler]

church goer ko b4 nya nausab ko... mkalagot na ning mga pari karon... pwera sa mau ha.

mag-apil-apil pa jud sa politika, limot cguro nga naa na seperation between STATE and RELIGION.

magpa presscon pa kay ang kwarta wla kuno gi dritso sa ila nganong gi-agi pa kuno sa mga politiko.

wow, mao pa hatagan sa gobyerno mao pa masuko.