to CBCP(Catholic Bishop's Conference of the Philippines)...this is too much...

[wak_wak]

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unsa man sad paki alam sa CBCP aning impeachment, wala man sad na sila mabuhat.. mga taw run naa naman own mind, ang CBCP di naman ka influence kaayo like before..

[monrose29]

hahay...

For me na-a pod point to nga archbisop why?

*** education issue.. HALLER ma o bitaw na-a unta tay *** education pra maka hibaw ang atong mga kabatan-onan nga unsay outcome anang ilang pre-marital ***...

and to make it clear wa na mag tudlo ug unsa-on pag jer2x.... tan awa unsay nahitabo sa atong palibot karon.. 16 anyos buntis na.. coz they dont know.... unsay outcome anang ilang gibuhat..... deli sila aware sa negative nga output sa ilang gibuhat...

ahh bisan gali mga minyo nah dapat pa man gali sultihan nga kina hanglan na-ay family planing.... kana pa no-on mga batan on nga hot ka ayo.....

now.. karon? is it ok to commit adultery kay ingon sa archbishop ok ra kay pede i kompesal.... u think again.. common sense na....

sa pag pangawat og pag panikas..... kahibaw na gud ta da-an nga kanang mga politika diha manikas jud nahh.... bisan gali kta mismo sa atong ka ugalingon manikas man ta di bah.....

ma o na naka ingon sya og its ok to cheat.. coz everyone cheats...kinsa man daw wa manikas nato deri beh? eveyone gali.. common sense again...

and again... ask ur self.. it is ok to cheat? i think were old enough kahibaw na to og unsay ma ayo og unsay deli....


and dapat pud unta gyud nga di na mag palabi nga simabahan sa isyu sa politika.. mag libog ang mga tawo kong kinsay toho-an...

sos labi na neng mga kabus nato nga igso-on.... di gyud na nato ma basol.. kong gi gutom ang tawo.. di na gyud na mo matter kong gikan sa ma ayo og da-utan ba nah iyang gikaon basta lang ma buhi....

di ka ayo ta pa apekto anang mga salida nga bahalag mamatay sa gutom basta di gyud mo kaon kong gikan sa du-utan nga gihatag nga kwarta para palit og pagka-on.. tsk tsk tsk..... sala man to-od na sa bala-od sa gino-o pero mahimo man ta niyang ma pa saylo kay kahibaw man sya rason.. kay gi gutom gud... nya wa nay lain kapa ingnan....

karon atong i connect atong bata.... what if diay katong bata.. wa nay pamilya..nag latagaw sa karsada... unya kay gi gutom lagi... so nangawat para maka ka-on.... syempre kong na-a pa to syay pamilya adto jud to sa balay mangita og kaon.... deli nato sya mangawat...

deli lang ka ayo ma ayo ang pagka sulti sa archbishop wa lang niya ka ayo gipasabot sa katawhan.. iya lang gi shortcut... " ok ra mangawat basta gi gutom"

[dagget]

so you are saying its okay to cheat in class exams.....

it would have been okay if a parent tells his child to cheat in exams

but a priest an archbishop at that....

the implications here is if you scold someone who cheats you of your money or anything.... that person would just say si archbishop gali ingon okay ra mo cheat........

[dagget]

in essence wala natay katarungan mangasaba kung mo cheat imong asawa, bana, girlfriend or boyfriend nimo............

ang rason kay ingon si archbishop okay ra mo cheat..........

[monrose29]

so you are saying its okay to cheat in class exams.....

its a common sense na mam.. lahi ang exam lahi pod ang issue sa politics.... nag depende na sa sitwasyon lugar og panghitabo...

and cguro.. katong time nga nag storya ang archbishop deli man mga bata iyang ka atubang nga mo to-o sa iyang gi sulti..

sama nako di naman ko bata.. na-a pod koy idea na-a pod syay punto gamay..

it would have been okay if a parent tells his child to cheat in exams

kong ang anak di pa kasabot like elementary.... kinsa man sad tawn inahana mo tudlo ana sa anak oi.....
sa ako ng gi ingon.. mga dagko nata kahibaw ta ug unsay ma ayo og unsay deli..

and bisan pag tudl0-an nato ang mga bata nga deli mo cheat.... pag di na kahibalo sa answer mangita jud nag pa agi nga maka tubag... first thing masulod sa mind mangopya sa nalang sa classmate..

ma basol nato ang bata ana kay wa nag to-on? timan-e bata baya nahh ang na-a sa huna2x duwa ra kinahanglan jud nag pag tagad sa parents...

pero kong matured na.. nya mangupya gihapon.. aw kana... iyaha na jud ng desisyon.. ang2x mo ingon sya ma o man gud neh gi tudlo ni mama mangopya....

the implications here is if you scold someone who cheats you of your money or anything.... that person would just sa si archbishop gali ingon okay ra mo cheat........

hay depende sad pod tawn sa issue oi..... deli nalnag pod tanan.. grabe naman pod...

in essence wala natay katarungan mangasaba kung mo cheat imong asawa, bana, girlfriend or boyfriend nimo............

ang rason kay ingon si archbishop okay ra mo cheat..........

ngano wala man? kay ingon c archbishop? aguy murag di na pod na ma-o mam... kong mo ingon diay c archbishop nga ok ra mo kaon tag ta-e?

sorry sa akong words ha pero sa sitwasyon gud dapat nag depende na sa unsa atong gi istoryahan...

dagko na gud ta kahibaw na gud ta kong unsay sayop ug unsay deli..

tino-od nga deli jud to ma ayo iyang gi sulti isip usa ka archbishop kay dako man sya og inflluence sa atong palibot.. pero kong ato sundon pod tanan niyang gi sulti kay archbishop man lagi.... ma-o na kong mo ingon diay sya og " ok ra na ang mo patay kag tawo pasaylo-on bitaw ka sa gino-o"

pato-o pod diay ka? nga kahibaw man ka nga sala nah.... bisan unsa pa nga religion wa dyuy tudlo nga ok ra ang mo patay og tawo.....

[dagget]

you are just narrowing things to politics.....

you should know better.........

cheating is cheating...... any other way you put it........ don't limit it to politics.... why are you lenient in cheating with politics?? why are you strict on cheating with exams?

are you discriminating??

as a judge in court..... you don't and should not discriminate....

i hope sir moonrose you broaden your view.... don't discriminate.... webster's dictionay will tell you what is cheating..... there is no mild cheating, moderate cheating and severe cheating.....

its clearly the worst statement i have heard coming from an archbishop......

[istoryador]

Bishop Arguelles had allhis right to say it. But he is a religious person. Not an ordianry religious but a bishop at that. I am sick with what he is saying.

So what he is standing for? That cheating is okay. I was dishearten by his statements. It will confuse people. It will erode the faith of his flock. A shepherd is to guide his flock to the right path. The statements of Bishop Arguelles is surely against the teachings of the church.

[istoryador]

If you are a teacher and you catch a student blatantly copying her classmate’s answers, what would you do—flunk her outright, or graduate her summa cum laude on the ground that she could have passed anyway even if she did not cheat? Surprisingly, the person who first raised this argument was a professor. You have professors and archbishops, the embodiments of reason and moral rectitude, arguing this way, heaven help us.

[istoryador]

Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita and presidential chief of staff Mike Defensor denied such a dinner took place but Cabinet Secretary Ricardo Saludo confirmed it. Saludo said that if money passed, it was not meant to convince the bishops to side with the administration but as assistance to their dioceses.

He said it was not a victory dinner but a "dialogue" which he said was originally scheduled in January but it was only on July 9 that the prelates found time for it.


Can you imagine that?

1. the victory dinner was a "dialogue"
2. the original meeting was in January but was postponed in July 9.
3. that Malacanang is assisting the dioceses.

the first one is funny, the second one is ridiculous and the third one is a clear violation of the principle of separation of church and State.

Weeks before GMA and her allies riled the bishops to stay apolitical stressing the doctrine of separatiuon of church and State. After the pastoral letter, here is Malacanang giving bribe, hosting dinner and assisting the diocese.

[monrose29]

@ dagget..

mam ang ako lang bah.. na-a pod punto iyang gi sulti nga

“Lahat naman nandaya, e. Natalo lang ’yung iba sa dayaan.” (“Everyone cheated anyway. Some people just lost in the cheating.”)

ma-o ra nahh....

webster's dictionay will tell you what is cheating

hina to-od ko sa english mam but kahibaw pod kog unsay cheating oi....

ang ako lang punto..

Bisan unsa pa na ka respitado nga Bishop ang mo sulti diha sa iyang commentaryo if kahibaw tang sayop ato diay buhaton?