Music as Business: Are We Adapting to the Changes?

[CuJo!!!]

a lot of artists get misunderstood when they say that there is a business side to making music.. More specifically, they're accused of becoming sell outs.. People should realize that in order to get your music "out there", one should learn to market and promote, (two aspects of the "business" side of things..). The same Kids that accuse these people as sellout are the same ones who are ignorant of the fact that most if not all of the "artists" or "acts" that they listen to have indulged in the same "business" side.. name me an artist who hasn't self promoted or marketed his music...

[Vishadomini]

Look at my new Avatar. It's my band's logo. People have been telling me it'd make a great t-shirt design....

OT:
That's the Eye of Horus right? Care to share the reason behind the logo? What's your band's name? What kind of music do you play?

[andoi]

finally, carlo is out of the building!!

cant wait to hear your cd master guro.. hehehe..
promise i wont dl ur tunes via the net,..
will just ask it from you.. heheheh,..,

glad to be one of ur studes...

go rock!

[Carlo Borromeo]

OT:
That's the Eye of Horus right? Care to share the reason behind the logo? What's your band's name? What kind of music do you play?

My band, which is three guys fronted by a girl, is called FRAGILMUSE. I chose the Eye of Horus because it resembles the letter "F", the first letter of FRAGILMUSE.

[Carlo Borromeo]

a lot of artists get misunderstood when they say that there is a business side to making music.. More specifically, they're accused of becoming sell outs.. People should realize that in order to get your music "out there", one should learn to market and promote, (two aspects of the "business" side of things..). The same Kids that accuse these people as sellout are the same ones who are ignorant of the fact that most if not all of the "artists" or "acts" that they listen to have indulged in the same "business" side.. name me an artist who hasn't self promoted or marketed his music...

Definitely. when an artist performs in front of an audience or records their material so others can hear it, they are essentially trying to sell themselves. That's always been the point of the game from day one.

I mean, even say a group like the *** PISTOLS. They positioned themselves as being anti-social anarchists, despising commercialism. It was, in hindsight, a clever marketing ploy targeted at kids who saw themselves as anti-social anarchists, despising commercialism.

Same for HIP-HOP now. Gangsta lifestyle and stuff like that.

Anyway, all I'm saying is that The Game's the same, but the rules have changed.

Question is, are the rules working for or against the independent artist?

[donato_borces]

VERY SUBJECTIVE

[TheDevilInside]

but musicians are still alive aren't they? or am i just seeing the mainstream with backing by big recording companies. anyways, take for example bisrock, very promising if we look at it, but who's to say that 2 years from now, we can see their full albums posted in popular torrent sites? i just personally feel like music is too expensive. heck, i'd pay top dollar to watch a gig i like, coz i'm going there for the experience, not to listen to the music for the first time, that's what the radio is for. but i would want to be able to access music as freely as i can, monetarily speaking, but prices of CD's (which has a good quality than tapes) are far too expensive for Cebu's, or even for the Philippines' economy. therefore, my stand is still against piracy, although i do it, but at teh same time, music should be affordable. i just feel like when i buy an original CD, it's such a big deal alreddy like "omg! that's how you like that band, huh? i should have bought you that for your b-day instead!" see?

ingon ako causin sa abroad, kita kuno dinhi sa pinas ang pinakabarato sa mga cd's. inig oli gani nya kay puwerting daghana cd paliton kay barato kuno kaayo nganhi kumpara sa gawas.

[level42]

tama, mas barato gyud dinhi sa ato kumpara sa gawas, pero ang nakadaot limited kaayo ang choices tungod na sa pirated. kung ikumpara nato ang mga record bars sauna kaysa karon layo kaayo ang deperensya.

di gyud ko magproblema og pangita sauna kay halos tanan nako paborito nga artist naa gyud sila baligya, bsan dinha sa Metro, kumpleto na sila sauna sa The Cure, James, U2, The Black Crowes etc. pero karon suwayi nig pangutana ning mga bandaha diba U2 nalay naa.


og kato sang Primrose nawala na pud, daghan pud to sila mga choices haaaaaaahay ngano nawala pa man tawn ang primrose, sige lang ta antos ani palit amazon.

I missed those days, kay sauna mo bisita na gani ko sa metro o bisan sa Sm excited kaayo ko mangita pero karon frustrated kay wa gyuy nada ang mga baligya.

[Azimuth]

unsay point sa ani nga forum gani?

[EZRA]

Definitely. when an artist performs in front of an audience or records their material so others can hear it, they are essentially trying to sell themselves. That's always been the point of the game from day one.

I mean, even say a group like the *** PISTOLS. They positioned themselves as being anti-social anarchists, despising commercialism. It was, in hindsight, a clever marketing ploy targeted at kids who saw themselves as anti-social anarchists, despising commercialism.

Same for HIP-HOP now. Gangsta lifestyle and stuff like that.

Anyway, all I'm saying is that The Game's the same, but the rules have changed.

Question is, are the rules working for or against the independent artist?

Well karon nga ang mga taw kusog kaayo mang download ug bootleg ug mga kanta, pait kaayo para sa mga independent artists... especially sa mga DIY artists. They spend time and money to make, promote, and distribute their music pero they're not making much `cause most people would rather download it or have someone give them copies instead.

Bisag diri sa ISTORYA.NET .. daghan kaayong mangayo ug mga mp3. Mag pasa-pasa ug mga files - bisag ang mga local artists, di pa gyud tabangan. I frown upon these people, everytime maka kita kog thread about bootlegging, ako dayon nang i -delete, way daghang pangutana. They have no idea how hard it is for a struggling artist to come up with their stuff without any help with the funding ... tanan gasto gikan sa ilang kaugalingong bulsa, then i-download lang diay sa mga oplok nga di lang gyud mo gasto ug pila ka peses para lang ikatabang sa bandang naninguha.