The Real Test of A Programmer...

[uchihacirxe]

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let's be realistic. You magnitude of productivity is not same if you are expert in one tool and you are not with other tool.

learning and adoption is not equivalent to productivity either.

Moral of the story -- you cant have it all. Just focus in few and be an expert of that and you will be the most productive.

Yes. that is the bottom line.

[jack3]

sakto jud mo tanan mga Bro..wa naku'y masulti kundi for everyone who shared on this thread.

mga programmers jud halos or tanan jud nga naa ani nga thread...

[akimz]

tumpak bro . . . maayo gani ako company ky tagaan me time maka tuun sa mga bag-o na technology / language . . . bisan asa me e labay kailangan mo adapt gyd

[baning]

sakto...sakto... sa mga programmers.. basa mo diri...

[ondoy]

sakto judni...

inig ka human sa program Starcraft dayon

[Darkbyte]

...is to be most productive with whatever is in front of him. May it be Java, C, .Net, ROR, PHP, etc...

With whatever tool, framework, 3rd party library, etc etc etc...

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It's not a battle of which language is better or which framework is better. The real test is how a programmer can adapt to any system, any framework, any tool at a given time and deadline. How fast and efficient one can learn the new language or framework and get things done and catch up on deadlines.

In the real world, business applications are complex. It is usually a combination of platforms and systems. You can't say - "I can't work on that part coz I don't know Hibernate or C++ or Unix...". Sometimes you don't have any choice but to learn it.

Just a little glimpse of what's out there.

That's life you need to learn everything.

Java, C++, COBOL , ORACLE, UNIX, SQL, UBUNTU,

[dodie]

To become a good programmer is to become a "lazy programmer". Not literally lazy but the programs/tools made should do the work.... and feel the awesomeness.

why there is programming in the first place anyway? You know the answer.

[anaksatawo]

That's life you need to learn everything.

Java, C++, COBOL , ORACLE, UNIX, SQL, UBUNTU,

you don't have to learn everything. its mastery and specialization.

[tcltk]

correct!

New programmers usually think Java vs. C#? PHP vs. Python vs. ROR? .Net vs. J2EE? Linux/Unix vs. Windows?

In the real world ang pagpili ug language or career sa programming usually dictated sa sweldo, hiring, location, client, and other factors. Very rarely will your preference for a programming language be considered. It's your boss and your client who will tell you what to use. Unless you're the boss or the client.

So dapat mag-anad ta ug batasan nga mu-excel bisag unsay tool or platform ipa-gamit sa atu-a.
1. How fast can you adapt to a new tool?
2. How good are your Google skills?
3. How fast can you read and comprehend?
4. How good are your testing skills? Develop the habit of finding ways to break your own code. Never depend on QA!
5. Practice design patterns.

> In the real world ang pagpili ug language or career sa programming usually dictated sa sweldo, hiring, location, client, and other factors.

Exactly! Inspite of the fact that there are Rapid Application Development (RAD) tools that can deliver program faster than any other tools like Sybase PowerBuilder and Alpha V pero di man na maoy in demand karon. Just like Betamax being replaced by VHS even if it was an inferior technology because the market dictated it. In Powerbuilder for example, you can create a basic invoicing system complete with printing of invoice in 1 hour. This would already include basic database structure and basic maintenance like customer entry, basic stock entry, invoice entry & invoice printing. But companies don't really care about that. The just want to easily find programmers to maintain whatever they have.

[sunduwu]

pag.ka sakto ani tanan...

nice thread...

kani amo gamit MS Execl



relax lang sa programming SRO sa ko gamay