... Selecting a POPE

[cyclops]

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OT: your job is to keep the forumers excited and let the ball keep rollling.. and not they way you want things to be. We are not in a Re-Ed 10 class here.

[M@rv|n]

moderator

n 1: any substance used to slow down neutrons in nuclear reactors 2: in the Presdyterian church, the officer who presides over a synod or general assembly 3: someone who presides over a forum or debate 4: someone who mediates disputes and attempts to avoid violence

[oliver_g0110]

hmmmmmmmmm this is not the topic.... the topic is about the process in choosing a Pope. Hope we could adjust ourselves with this one. The conclave is one of the oldest ritual in Catholicism. If im not mistaken, it started on the year 1241. Those bloody years of the early Catholicism. Hope the catholics will know its past and their roots of becoming.

Thank you.

[dawn runner]

I think Cardinal Vidal has a good chance of becoming Pope. Lets pray.

[blade101]

OT: your job is to keep the forumers excited and let the ball keep rollling.. and not they way you want things to be. We are not in a Re-Ed 10 class here.

we also keep people like you in line. you cannot just go about disrespecting moderators or anyone else for that matter. yes it's true this is not a Re-Ed 10 class but then even in the classrooms there are rules to be followed and people who enforce them...by the way, thats our job, just in case you haven't noticed.

so consider this your only warning. if I read one more out of context comment from you, consider yourself banned.

@marvin: thanks for the definition of a mod bro. you forgot to mention though that we're keepers of the peace too.

@ oliver_go sorry about that bai, just doing our jobs as modz....

ok back to the topic people!

[GlassMoon]

stick to the topic, people.

yeah, feeling powerful....

cyclops: My moderators are not "FEELING POWERFUL." If you have something against them, then you have something against me.

OT: your job is to keep the forumers excited and let the ball keep rollling.. and not they way you want things to be. We are not in a Re-Ed 10 class here.

DO NOT EVER TELL MY MODERATORS WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. GODDAMNIT, I DON'T EVER WANT TO READ ANOTHER POST FROM YOU NOR ANYBODY WHO IS LIKE YOU. CONSIDER YOURSELF BANNED.

[n`gel]

Toinks. Neways about the topic? There's even a slim chance of an American Pope how much more a Filipino Pope, I mean you guys should know history coz you seem to know successions in the Papal (business) ahemz, forgive me for my description, that most Popes who're elected are Italians. Care to watch the news people?

[blade101]

I agree with n'gel. even the numbers are stacked in their favor. daghang voting italian cardinals so mathematically they have a better chance of having an italian pope. well we can always pray for divine intervention

[dawn runner]

The Candidates to the papacy



[size=18px]Cardinal JOSEPH RATZINGER[/size]
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith , President of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and International Theological Commission, Dean of the College of Cardinals, was born on 16 April 1927 in Marktl am Inn, Germany. He was ordained a priest on 29 June 1951.

His father, a police officer, came from a traditional family of farmers from Lower Baviera. He spent his adolescent years in Traunstein, and was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in the last months of World War II. From 1946 to 1951, the year in which he was ordained a priest and began to teach, he studied philosophy and theology at the University of Munich and at the higher school in Freising. In 1953 he obtained a doctorate in theology with a thesis entitled: "The People and House of God in St. Augustine’s doctrine of the Church". Four years later, he qualified as a university teacher. He then taught dogma and fundamental theology at the higher school of philosophy and theology of Freising, then in Bonn from 1959 to 1969, Münster from 1963 to 1966, Tubinga from 1966 to 1969. From 1969, he was a professor of dogmatic theology and of the history of dogma at the University of Regensburg and Vice President of the same university.

Already in 1962 he was well known when, at the age of 35, he became a consultor at Vatican Council II, of the Archbishop of Cologne, Cardinal Joseph Frings. Among his numerous publications, a particular post belongs to the ‘Introduction to Christianity’, a collection of university lessons on the profession of apostolic faith, published in 1968; Dogma and revelation, an anthology of essays, sermons and reflections dedicated to the pastoral ministry, published in 1973.

In March 1977, Paul VI elected him Archbishop of Munich and Freising and on 28 May 1977 he was consecrated, the first diocesan priest after 80 years to take over the pastoral ministry of this large Bavarian diocese.

Created and proclaimed Cardinal by Paul VI in the consistory of 27 June 1977. Titular churches, suburbicarian see of Velletri-Segni (5 April 1993) and suburbicarian see of Ostia (30 November 2002).

On 25 November 1981 he was nominated by John Paul II Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith; President of the Biblical Commission and of the Pontifical International Theological Commission.

Relator of the 5th General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops (1980).

President Delegate to the 6th Synodal Assembly (1983).

Elected Vice Dean of the College of Cardinals, 6 November 1998. On 30 November 2002, the Holy Father approved the election, by the order of cardinal bishops, as Dean of the College of Cardinals.

President of the Commission for the Preparation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and after 6 years of work (1986-92) he presented the New Catechism to the Holy Father.

Laurea honoris causa in jurisprudence from the Libera UniversitÃ* Maria Santissima Assunta, 10 November 1999.

Honorary member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, 13 November 2000.



[size=18px]Cardinal IVAN DIAS[/size]
Cardinal Ivan Dias, Archbishop of Bombay, India, was born on 14 April 1936 in Mumbai, India. He was ordained for the Archdiocese of Bombay on 8 December 1958 and holds a doctorate in canon law from the Pontifical Lateran University, Rome.
He entered the Holy See’s diplomatic service in 1964 and was posted to the Nordic countries, Indonesia, Madagascar, La Réunion, the Comorros, Mauritius and the Secretariat of State. On 8 May 1982 he was appointed titular Archbishop of Rusubisir and Apostolic Pro-Nuncio in Ghana, Togo and Benin, and received episcopal ordination on 19 June. He later served as Apostolic Nuncio in Korea (1987-91) and Albania (1991-97).

On 8 November 1996 he was appointed Archbishop of Bombay.

Created and proclaimed Cardinal by John Paul II in the consistory of 21 February 2001. Titular church Holy Spirit at Ferratella.

President Delegate of the 10th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops (October 2001



[size=18px]Cardinal JOSEPH ARINZE[/size]
Cardinal Francis Arinze, Prefect of the Congregation of Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, was born on 1 November 1932 in Eziowelle, a city of the Archdiocese of Onitsha, Nigeria. At the age of fifteen, he began his secondary studies at the All Hallowa Seminary (Ognissanti) of Nuewi, studies which he concluded in 1950 at Enugu. For the following two years he taught at the same seminary until 1953, when he took up philosophy studies at Bigard Memorial Seminary at Enugu. In 1955 he began to take courses in theology at the Pontifical Urban University. Only three years later he was ordained to the priesthood during a ceremony which took place at the church of the Pontifical Urban University in Rome on 23 November 1958.

From 1961-1962, he was professor of liturgy and also taught logic and basic philosophy at Bigard Memorial Seminary at Enugu. He was then appointed regional secretary for Catholic education for the eastern part of his country. When transferred to London, he took courses at the Institute of Pedagogy, earning a diploma in 1964.

On 6 July 1965 he was appointed to the titular church of Fissiana and named coadjutor to the Archbishop of Onitsha. On 29 August 1965 he was consecrated bishop. Only two years after he was asked to take over the pastoral government of the archdiocese, and on 26 June 1967 he was named archbishop.

In 1979 his brother bishops elected him president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of Nigeria, which post he filled until 1984, when John Paul II asked him to head as pro- president the Secretariat for Non-Christians (now the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue).

He remained Archbishop of Onitsha until April 1985, while awaiting the nomination of his successor to assume the pastoral administration of the Archdiocese. In addition, in 1982 he was elected vice-president for Africa of the United Bible Society.

President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, 27 May 1985 - 1 October 2002.

On 8 May 1994, he presided in the capacity of first President Delegate at the solemn closing of the Special Assembly for Africa of the Synod of Bishops at the altar of the Chair of St. Peter’s Basilica.

On 24 October 1999 he received a gold medallion from the International Council of Christians and Jews for his "outstanding achievements in inter-faith relations".

He was also a member of the Committee of the Great Jubilee of the Year 2000.

On 1 October 2002 he was nominated Prefect of the Congregation of Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments.



[size=18px]Cardinal ANGELO SCOLA[/size]


[size=18px]Cardinal DIONIGI TETTAMANZI
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Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi, Archbishop of Milan (Italy), was born on 14 March 1934 in Renate, Italy. At the age of 11 he entered the diocesan seminary of Seveso San Pietro, where he began his studies. He then attended the Seminary of Lower Venegono until 1957 when he received a licentiate in theology. In the same year on 28 June, he was ordained for the Archdicoese of Milan. He holds a doctorate in theology from the Pontifical Gregorian University, Rome.

For over 20 years he taught fundamental theology a the major seminary of Lower Venegono and pastoral theology at the Priestly Institute of Mary Immaculate and the Lombard Regional Institute of Pastoral Ministry, Milan. He is also the author of many written works.

Even with an intense academic activity, he was able to participate at meetings, conventions, refresher courses, and televised debates. He has also contributed written works to the ‘Osservatore Romano’ and ‘Avvenire’. Aside from this, he still managed to maintain his pastoral activity in the parishes of Masnago, San Pietro martire in Seveso, Santo Stefano Arno, Turate. He has been very active in the Italian Confederation of Family Counseling Centers of Christian inspiration from 1979 to 1989, in Oari (a pastoral movement for the communion and hope for those who suffer) and in the Association of Italian Catholic Medical Doctors, Milan section for nearly 20 years.

Having been made Prelate of Honor of His Holiness in 1985, on 11 September 1987, he was called to serve as rector of the Pontifical Lombard Seminary. During this period he continued to offer his service to the CEI, the Holy See and to diverse theology institutes. On 28 April 1989, the CEI called him to be president of the board of directors of the newspaper ‘Avvenire’.

On 1 July 1989 he was elected Metropolitan Archbishop of Ancona-Osma. He received episcopal ordination on 23 September 1989. During this period he was president of the Episcopal Conference of the Marche region and in June 1990 was elected president of the Bishops’ Commission of the CEI for the Family.

On 14 March 1991 he was named Secretary General of the CEI and on 6 April of the same year he resigned from the see of Ancona-Osma. After 4 years of intense work of serving the Italian Church, on 20 April 1995 he was named Metropolitan Archbishop of Genoa. He also served as president of the regional episcopal conference.

On 25 May 1995 until May 2000 he was named vice president of the CEI. In January 1998, the Permanent Council of the CEI named him chaplain to the Italian Catholic Medical Doctors Association.

He participated as an expert at the Sinod of Bishops on the Family (1980) and on the Laity (1987) and as a synodal father at the two Special Assemblies of the Synod of Bishops for Europe (1991 and 1999) and the Synod on Consecrated Life (1994).

Archbishop of Milan, 11 July 2002.



[size=18px]Cardinal RICARDO VIDAL[/size]
Cardinal Ricardo J. Vidal, Archbishop of Cebu (Philippines) , was born on 6 February 1931 in Mogpoc, Marinduque, Philippines. He did his studies at the minor seminary of the Most Holy Rosary (which later assumed the title of Our Lady of Carmel) and at the seminary of San Carlo.

He was ordained on 17 March 1956. The Bishop of Lucena entrusted him as spiritual director of the local seminary of Mount Carmel. He then became superior of the same institute and was dedicated to the formation of the young candidates to priesthood until 10 September 1971, when he was named Coadjutor Bishop of Malolos, Bulacan, and was elected to the titular church of Claterna. He received episcopal ordination on 30 November 1971. On 22 August 1973 he was named Archbishop of Lipa in Batangas.

On 13 April 1981 he was named Coadjutor with the right of succession to the Archbishop of Cebu, Cardinal Julio Rosales. He was named Archbishop on 24 August 1982.

He served as president of the Bishops’ Commission for Vocations within the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines. He was also vice-president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference and then president from 1985 to 1987.

[oliver_g0110]

Man! I can't imagine a "Black" Pope! sorry for that.... but i dont know... wala lang... i think the late last Pope John Paul II was really a symbolical figure for a Pope. People can't help comparing the next Pope from the late last Pope.


@blade101 - No probs bro! Thanks