How do you obtain Salvation?

[pollux_xoxox]

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share lng ko huh...

sakto na.. if you believe in JESUS you will be saved.. why? "believe" in Jesus means.. you will

also do what he did while he is living here.. Jesus lived a perfect human life.. he did not commit

any sins.. so in order to be saved.. follow Jesus' life.. not only na u believe na Jesus exist.. but by

doing good works.. d ba Jesus commandment was "Love God with all your heart, with all your soul and

with all your mind. and love your neighbor as you love yourself".. so know.. how will we love our

neighbor.. for staters here is the Corporal Works of Mercy:

1. Feed the hungry
2. Give drink to the thirsty
3. Clothe the naked
4. Shelter the homeless
5. Visit the sick
6. Visit those in prison
7. Bury the dead

salamat sa space.. this are all my own opinion based on what i know.. to summarize everything..

u dont need to know Jesus to be saved.. kay luoy au ana storyaha ang mga na sa suok jud kaayo..

na d ka abot ang civilization.. ana storyaha sure na sila kuyog sila ni satanas.. bsta if you did what

everything what Jesus did... His work sa poor.. sa masakiton.. iyang unconditional love..

naa ka chance ma langit.. d ba? pero para sa naka hibaw na ni Jesus Christ.. well.. good for you.. take

it as an advantage because we have a clear blueprint on how to live a Life Like Jesus.. but then again

mas pressured ta do more good.. kay WE BELIEVE IN CHRIST.. we know how He lived His life and dapat

sundon jud na nato BY HEART..

[regnauld]

Faith alone in Jesus Christ(What he's done, and who he is).

Acts 4: 12 (ESV) "And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

John 3:16 (New International Version)
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

No matter how many times we crucify ourselves and do good to other people it will never save us from God's wrath on the judgment day. God made already the way, and the only way which is Jesus Christ

To God be the Glory!

Are people justified by faith alone?

NO. Not by faith alone. Read this: James 2:24 "So you see, a person obtains holiness by his deeds and not by faith alone."

[Maikeru]

I agree with reynauld. ^^ It isn't enough to just believe in Jesus and be saved. Example, say Hitler, we all know he was quite a brute. Let's suppose he believe in Jesus, would he still be saved after all of what he has done? I believe in Jesus, but there are still a lot of things I have to do so i can be saved. Our faith and belief alone can't save us from damnation, but we also need to touch our brothers and sisters out there, live with virtues.

I am a Catholic so we have saints, let's take a look at how the saints lived, it's not just they believed in Jesus, they did something for other people. The touch other people's lives. If we can live like them maybe we will be saved.

[regnauld]

I agree with reynauld. ^^ It isn't enough to just believe in Jesus and be saved. Example, say Hitler, we all know he was quite a brute. Let's suppose he believe in Jesus, would he still be saved after all of what he has done? I believe in Jesus, but there are still a lot of things I have to do so i can be saved. Our faith and belief alone can't save us from damnation, but we also need to touch our brothers and sisters out there, live with virtues.

I am a Catholic so we have saints, let's take a look at how the saints lived, it's not just they believed in Jesus, they did something for other people. The touch other people's lives. If we can live like them maybe we will be saved.

I admire and appreciate the saints and martyrs of the Catholic Church!

[daredavid]

you can obtain salvation by sincere repentance,accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior,faith, personal relationship with God and living a life that is pleasing to God's eyes.

[Soul Doctor]

you obtain salvation by getting into a church and following their teachings.
It is like a bank account for the soul.
your church or religion is the bank.
And the interest is salvation.
the coverage may include heaven reservation.

but what if the bank runs with your money?

do we have a spiritual PDIC?

[sanggano_boy]

Are people justified by faith alone?

NO. Not by faith alone. Read this: James 2:24 "So you see, a person obtains holiness by his deeds and not by faith alone."

Wrong, it's not right that you only quote verses from the bible, you have to understand the context of it. The Bible says in James 2:21-26
" 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"[a] and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."


Two kinds of Faith

Dead Faith (Not Faith at all)= A Lot of People are knowledgeable about Jesus Christ , But!, Did they really know Jesus by heart? Did they truely love him, the way he wants? Did they worship him the way he wants?
Is Jesus their only LORD and GOD? Did they have personal relationship with Jesus? Did they accept the FREE gift of Salvation that he offers to anybody? Did they

Genuine Faith (Faith) = Answers all of that questions by heart


Faith is a verb because it means we must act on what we believe. Faith, as we have seen, is the theological virtue of being secure in our belief that God is real and that His Son died on the cross for our sins.

We can illustrate salvation in simple way:

1. If I will give you a surprise gift(salvation is a free gift),

Is there any effort you make to create that gift? Did we participate in it?
Not at all,

Same as with Salvation , We did not participate in it, we did not plan it, and only God can accomplish it.
even if we participate we are disqualified since we all have sinned as Romans 3:23
says "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". and the penalty of sin is death(spiritual and physical death) as Romans 6:23
says "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

what will you do to receive it?
accepting the gift.
accepting Jesus Christ as our personal LORD and Saviour (cause that's who he is)


2. Another perfect illustration is written in the Bible Luke 23:40-45

But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[c]"

Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

The question is:
Did the criminal mentioned, live doing good things (e.g. touching other peoples lives)? I don't think so, that's why he was sentenced to die, for his wrong doings. But because of his faith in Jesus Christ he was saved

Anything that discredit what Jesus Christ has done, is not salvation. Sad to say is that a lot of people are creating their way to salvation. The Bible is reall clear that there's only ONE WAY Jesus Christ (John 14:6). We can have repentance because God's holy spirit will convict us that we are sinners. After you obtain salvation then you can live a Holy life (set apart from the world).
And living by faith doing what God pleases all for his Glory, because it's God's commandments, John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command". This is a testimony to world that you are genuinely save and now connected to God.
and are justified by faith.

[regnauld]

Wrong, it's not right that you only quote verses from the bible, you have to understand the context of it. The Bible says in James 2:21-26
" 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"[a] and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."


Two kinds of Faith

Dead Faith (Not Faith at all)= A Lot of People are knowledgeable about Jesus Christ , But!, Did they really know Jesus by heart? Did they truely love him, the way he wants? Did they worship him the way he wants?
Is Jesus their only LORD and GOD? Did they have personal relationship with Jesus? Did they accept the FREE gift of Salvation that he offers to anybody? Did they

Genuine Faith (Faith) = Answers all of that questions by heart


Faith is a verb because it means we must act on what we believe. Faith, as we have seen, is the theological virtue of being secure in our belief that God is real and that His Son died on the cross for our sins.

We can illustrate salvation in simple way:

1. If I will give you a surprise gift(salvation is a free gift),

Is there any effort you make to create that gift? Did we participate in it?
Not at all,

Same as with Salvation , We did not participate in it, we did not plan it, and only God can accomplish it.
even if we participate we are disqualified since we all have sinned as Romans 3:23
says "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". and the penalty of sin is death(spiritual and physical death) as Romans 6:23
says "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

what will you do to receive it?
accepting the gift.
accepting Jesus Christ as our personal LORD and Saviour (cause that's who he is)


2. Another perfect illustration is written in the Bible Luke 23:40-45

But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[c]"

Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

The question is:
Did the criminal mentioned, live doing good things (e.g. touching other peoples lives)? I don't think so, that's why he was sentenced to die, for his wrong doings. But because of his faith in Jesus Christ he was saved

Anything that discredit what Jesus Christ has done, is not salvation. Sad to say is that a lot of people are creating their way to salvation. The Bible is reall clear that there's only ONE WAY Jesus Christ (John 14:6). We can have repentance because God's holy spirit will convict us that we are sinners. After you obtain salvation then you can live a Holy life (set apart from the world).
And living by faith doing what God pleases all for his Glory, because it's God's commandments, John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command". This is a testimony to world that you are genuinely save and now connected to God.
and are justified by faith.

I think the Catholics deserve some respect when it comes to the onslaught thrown by the protestants. Although, I am not a catholic and I do not wish to talk for them, I just found out that they have a response against this FAITH ALONE!

Is Faith Enough? | All Roads Ministry

If you are a Protestant then you have probably heard often that salvation comes through grace which comes via faith alone - and NOT by works. And this "faith" is presented NOT as a series, or systems, of beliefs in specific doctrines, but rather as a "trusting confidence" in Jesus. It is (so we are told) "expressed" as a personal relationship, and NOT as a list of true statements concerning religious matters. It is called "believing in Jesus...not a system."
This is, of course, total non-sense, and a position which NO real Christian can adhere to...and this tract will (briefly) explain why.
FIRST, it is dishonest. Religious faith EXACTLY and PRECISELY means holding some doctrines as true and rejecting others as false. Faith means (among other things) drawing a clear distinction between what one holds to be eternally true and forever false. "Trusting" Jesus MUST mean - IF it is to mean anything at all - agreement with His truth...and agreement with His Church, which - IF it be His Church - MUST teach His truth. However, the Protestant does not hold this. According to him a "believer" in sect A (who holds to "eternal assurance of salvation") is EXACTLY as much a believer as the fellow in sect B (who rejects this belief). At least, this "equality" exists in the Protestant system. And according to the Protestant system, "trusting" Jesus leads NOT to "one faith" (Eph 4:5), but rather to a house "divided against itself."
Yet this is unavoidable in Protestantism.
SECOND, this "relationship faith," by rejecting distinctions between true and false doctrines, DESTROYS the value of truth. If truth is NOT necessary for salvation, then it has no ultimate value. And this would, of necessity, mean that Jesus loses His value, for He identified Himself as Truth (Jn 14:6).
THIRD, this "trusting confidence" DESTROYS the value of Scripture. According to the Protestant system, one can "believe in Jesus," and yet DENY His Virgin Birth. Oh yes, the Bible clearly states this as a FACT...but Jesus nowhere says it Himself. Therefore, one can "believe in" Jesus without this. As the Protestant loves to say: "Systems of beliefs only get in the way between God and man." If one were actually silly enough to accept this Protestant "principle" then one may "trust" Jesus while rejecting the trustworthiness of the very same books which contain some of His teachings.
As this is a key point, I shall develop it a bit more.
IF Jesus does not require that His followers affirm some positions as true, and reject others as false, THEN He could have never told His followers to teach what He taught and commanded (Mt 28:20).
But He did precisely this! And if He meant it to be taken seriously (and He did!) then a true Christian MUST be able (and willing) to determine which doctrine, which action, which form of worship, is correct, and which is against God's will.
And for this to be done, there MUST be more than trust; there must also be facts, truth, understanding, and knowledge. After all, Jesus told His followers that they would KNOW the truth (Jn 8:32). And if one has knowledge of the truth, then one has the ability to determine which doctrines are true. If one still (like the Protestant) refuses to "take a stand" on the issues, then one can only be indifferent to truth itself.
If this seems like a strong statement, consider the only alternative. As noted above, Jesus told His followers to teach EVERYTHING to EVERYONE. To do this, one must have a way of coming to a knowledge of what this "everything" is. Otherwise one would be "trusting" someone who asks the impossible and/or does not know what he is talking about.
But of course, neither of these situations apply to Jesus. He asks us to do what is possible, and He provided the means by which we may come to a knowledge of truth (1 Tim 2:4). This means (as He is no longer here teaching us the way He taught His disciples) that His Church would continue that role as it is "the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Tim 3:15). It is through His Church that we true Christians can learn what is true. And what this means is, of course His Church will endure through time (Mt 16:19).
Jesus required that we know and teach truth. If He is trustworthy, then He would have provided us this Church to help us meet this requirement. Only then could He truly be called "trustworthy."
What this means is that IF one were to accept the Protestant position of "trusting Jesus" as the KEY element of Christianity, then the absolute necessity of the one true Church becomes self-evident.
But as shown before, this one true Church CANNOT be any of the Protestant sects. This is because they do not hold truth to be of value (remember one can believe or reject whatever one wants to - and still be a "good" Protestant). And because the Protestant rejects the value and necessity of the true Church (remember one can be a member of any "church" and still be saved - according to them) he is not being consistent in "trusting Jesus."
No one can "trust" Jesus and not "trust" the very means He established by which man would come to know truth and learn His teachings. Yet, incredible as it seems this is EXACTLY what the Protestant does.
If you are a Protestant, I ask YOU this,"YOU never really have been honest about believing (or examining) this bit of nonsense, have you"? I sincerely ask YOU to think about it now. There is still hope, and (as you are not dead yet) still time.
And if YOU are a Catholic, do consider increasing YOUR efforts to Protestants, so that they will be "set free" from the lie, and come to "know the truth," as Jesus said. We Catholics CANNOT say that we are His followers, if we do not love our brothers enough to try to bring them to the FAITH that truly saves.
And they won't learn it outside of the Church of Rome.

[sanggano_boy]

I think the Catholics deserve some respect when it comes to the onslaught thrown by the protestants. Although, I am not a catholic and I do not wish to talk for them, I just found out that they have a response against this FAITH ALONE!

Is Faith Enough? | All Roads Ministry

If you are a Protestant then you have probably heard often that salvation comes through grace which comes via faith alone - and NOT by works. And this "faith" is presented NOT as a series, or systems, of beliefs in specific doctrines, but rather as a "trusting confidence" in Jesus. It is (so we are told) "expressed" as a personal relationship, and NOT as a list of true statements concerning religious matters. It is called "believing in Jesus...not a system."
This is, of course, total non-sense, and a position which NO real Christian can adhere to...and this tract will (briefly) explain why.
FIRST, it is dishonest. Religious faith EXACTLY and PRECISELY means holding some doctrines as true and rejecting others as false. Faith means (among other things) drawing a clear distinction between what one holds to be eternally true and forever false. "Trusting" Jesus MUST mean - IF it is to mean anything at all - agreement with His truth...and agreement with His Church, which - IF it be His Church - MUST teach His truth. However, the Protestant does not hold this. According to him a "believer" in sect A (who holds to "eternal assurance of salvation") is EXACTLY as much a believer as the fellow in sect B (who rejects this belief). At least, this "equality" exists in the Protestant system. And according to the Protestant system, "trusting" Jesus leads NOT to "one faith" (Eph 4:5), but rather to a house "divided against itself."
Yet this is unavoidable in Protestantism.
SECOND, this "relationship faith," by rejecting distinctions between true and false doctrines, DESTROYS the value of truth. If truth is NOT necessary for salvation, then it has no ultimate value. And this would, of necessity, mean that Jesus loses His value, for He identified Himself as Truth (Jn 14:6).
THIRD, this "trusting confidence" DESTROYS the value of Scripture. According to the Protestant system, one can "believe in Jesus," and yet DENY His Virgin Birth. Oh yes, the Bible clearly states this as a FACT...but Jesus nowhere says it Himself. Therefore, one can "believe in" Jesus without this. As the Protestant loves to say: "Systems of beliefs only get in the way between God and man." If one were actually silly enough to accept this Protestant "principle" then one may "trust" Jesus while rejecting the trustworthiness of the very same books which contain some of His teachings.
As this is a key point, I shall develop it a bit more.
IF Jesus does not require that His followers affirm some positions as true, and reject others as false, THEN He could have never told His followers to teach what He taught and commanded (Mt 28:20).
But He did precisely this! And if He meant it to be taken seriously (and He did!) then a true Christian MUST be able (and willing) to determine which doctrine, which action, which form of worship, is correct, and which is against God's will.
And for this to be done, there MUST be more than trust; there must also be facts, truth, understanding, and knowledge. After all, Jesus told His followers that they would KNOW the truth (Jn 8:32). And if one has knowledge of the truth, then one has the ability to determine which doctrines are true. If one still (like the Protestant) refuses to "take a stand" on the issues, then one can only be indifferent to truth itself.
If this seems like a strong statement, consider the only alternative. As noted above, Jesus told His followers to teach EVERYTHING to EVERYONE. To do this, one must have a way of coming to a knowledge of what this "everything" is. Otherwise one would be "trusting" someone who asks the impossible and/or does not know what he is talking about.
But of course, neither of these situations apply to Jesus. He asks us to do what is possible, and He provided the means by which we may come to a knowledge of truth (1 Tim 2:4). This means (as He is no longer here teaching us the way He taught His disciples) that His Church would continue that role as it is "the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Tim 3:15). It is through His Church that we true Christians can learn what is true. And what this means is, of course His Church will endure through time (Mt 16:19).
Jesus required that we know and teach truth. If He is trustworthy, then He would have provided us this Church to help us meet this requirement. Only then could He truly be called "trustworthy."
What this means is that IF one were to accept the Protestant position of "trusting Jesus" as the KEY element of Christianity, then the absolute necessity of the one true Church becomes self-evident.
But as shown before, this one true Church CANNOT be any of the Protestant sects. This is because they do not hold truth to be of value (remember one can believe or reject whatever one wants to - and still be a "good" Protestant). And because the Protestant rejects the value and necessity of the true Church (remember one can be a member of any "church" and still be saved - according to them) he is not being consistent in "trusting Jesus."
No one can "trust" Jesus and not "trust" the very means He established by which man would come to know truth and learn His teachings. Yet, incredible as it seems this is EXACTLY what the Protestant does.
If you are a Protestant, I ask YOU this,"YOU never really have been honest about believing (or examining) this bit of nonsense, have you"? I sincerely ask YOU to think about it now. There is still hope, and (as you are not dead yet) still time.
And if YOU are a Catholic, do consider increasing YOUR efforts to Protestants, so that they will be "set free" from the lie, and come to "know the truth," as Jesus said. We Catholics CANNOT say that we are His followers, if we do not love our brothers enough to try to bring them to the FAITH that truly saves.
And they won't learn it outside of the Church of Rome.

I'm not a protestant, and I respect the Catholics, since I was a Roman Catholic before, and my family also are still embracing Catholic faith. Not all people confessing to be Christians and genuine Christians, and same as in Catholic Religion. Christianity is not a religion but it's a personal relationship with the LORD Jesus Christ,

There are many people who is always doing good works (e.g. extending help to the poor, doing charity works, and all good works pleasing to People) But yet they are ungodly? They don't even believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for their sins and on the third day he rose again?

I don't also believe on everything that Martin Luther says, But I believe that God allow it to happen so that people will re-evaluate themselves if their faith is really anchor in Jesus Christ alone!

1"To the angel[a] of the church in Ephesus write:
These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands: 2I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary. 4Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love. 5Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
-Revelation 2:1-5

It's our relationship to God that will matter most, because if we have good relationship with him all good works will follow as the fruit of the Spirit that resides in us.

[regnauld]

I'm not a protestant, and I respect the Catholics, since I was a Roman Catholic before, and my family also are still embracing Catholic faith. Not all people confessing to be Christians and genuine Christians, and same as in Catholic Religion. Christianity is not a religion but it's a personal relationship with the LORD Jesus Christ,

There are many people who is always doing good works (e.g. extending help to the poor, doing charity works, and all good works pleasing to People) But yet they are ungodly? They don't even believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for their sins and on the third day he rose again?

I don't also believe on everything that Martin Luther says, But I believe that God allow it to happen so that people will re-evaluate themselves if their faith is really anchor in Jesus Christ alone!

1"To the angel[a] of the church in Ephesus write:
These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands: 2I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary. 4Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love. 5Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
-Revelation 2:1-5

It's our relationship to God that will matter most, because if we have good relationship with him all good works will follow as the fruit of the Spirit that resides in us.

You have a good point. PEACE!