Water-fueled car inventor promotes smoke-free incinerator in Baguio

[cottonmouth]

@topic,
pede mangutana? kay wla lang ko kasabot nganu wla ni supporta-e.
who killed the water-fueled car?

Coz it violates the laws of physics that in order to be efficient: Heat In < Work out.

Technically, water can be a heat source coz of Hydrogen. But, we still dont have the tech to harness it cost-efficiently to be used in Internal Combustion Engines.

Maybe in the future. Hopefully we'll live to see it works.

[tokidoki_v2.1]

is this the one water-fueled car that was exposed as a hoax and once again put the Philippines in the limelight of worldwide shame?

daghan naman nuon nag bring up ug prototypes ani.

[moz_k2]

yeah i know and w/ help of electronics, kita kos gibuhat sakong migo, ma buhat ra sa balay ug completo jud kag gamit... and limpyo kau ang gawas saimung makina...

mao jud.

sa una pag high school ka try man gani mi break down sa components sa water.
dagkotan dayon padakoay ug flame.
hehehe

[kobmat]

OT: (medyo ot)
@topic,
pede mangutana? kay wla lang ko kasabot nganu wla ni supporta-e.
who killed the water-fueled car?

The second law of thermodynamics killed his water fueled car. That law is often referred to as the "irreversibility of nature" or the law of increasing entropy.

Ive heard that it is through electrolysis/hydrolysis of water that his car is able to run.
Here are some equations:

2H2O → 2H2 + O2 [Electrolysis step]
2H2 + O2 → 2H2O [Combustion step]

Since the first reaction is the reverse of the other, it should follow the second law of thermodynamics that no process can be 100% reversible. Even with the assumption that the combustion of Hydrogen is 100% efficient (which in reality is up to 20% efficient only). Then it can be concluded that the energy required to drive the electrolysis is greater than the energy produced by the combustion of hydrogen.

Hmm.. his car is still running even with a deficit in energy. either he has a hidden fuel tank or he must be going against the laws of thermodynamics...

@as for the smoke free thingy.
I would like to challenge him to do a mass balance on the system. Law of conservation of mass/matter states that mass of a closed system stays constant. I would like to watch him account for everything on the system. Maybe he defines smoke as the black emissions resulting from burning which can easily be removed using filters. But im sure his invention still produces carbon dioxide. It does mean that since you cant see it is not there. Carbon dioxide is colorless and an odorless gas. Imagine every household burning their trash.. its a recipe for disaster.

[leo_trams]

It's a simple economics.
Langawon ang gasoline station.
So likely mo pull out ang mga oil companies, and consider the tax generated by the oil.
Of course dli gusto ang mga politiko kay unsaon nalang ang pork and beans (pork barrel) nila.
hehehe

hahaha...kung tinuod pa, naa na unta'y nisakay nga politiko ani.
or Dingle could have been flooded with requests from millions of car owners in Metro Manila alone.
Pero wala. tungod kay dili ni tinuod.

Dili gani siya mo sulti or explain briefly atubangan sa mga DTI rep, DOST, media and car dealers about his invention. No need daw, kay klaro daw nga tubig iya gibutang. Gipakita pa kunohay niya nga nag bubo siya ug tubig adtong black box, unya gipakita niya nga putol ang fuel line...hehehe murag nag magic ba.

Compare this water fueled car with LPG powered car or even electric powered cars or hybrid cars.
Ngano man nga mas nidaghan man ang LPG powered car kaysa water fueled car?
Mas daghan pa gani ang hybrid cars kaysa water fueled cars... duda ko usa ra kabuok ang waterfueled car, kang Dingle ra... hehehe

Hinuon, delikado diay ang maglakaw ani ug ang magbisikleta.
mawad-an ug tax ang gov't...so mag pass sila ug law nga mo penalize sa mag lakaw ug mag bisikleta.
bwahahaha

[tingkoy13]

mao jud.

sa una pag high school ka try man gani mi break down sa components sa water.
dagkotan dayon padakoay ug flame.
hehehe

needs extra care, ug dli paksit jud ka... lingaw jud mga experiment... dos wer d days...

[[DSX]]

Disappointed and misunderstood, Dingle did not give anymore details about his controversial invention.

I've read somewhere before that he refused to have any third party examine his water-fueled car. Any respectable scientist would gladly have his peers examine the validity of his claims. I'd hate to think it but I think his water-fueled car invention was all bull crap.

[tokidoki_v2.1]

That's why scientists all over the world put a related filipino invention under scrutiny because the inventor only gave out vague explanations of his invention, which was a behavior unbecoming of a scientist. I think something in the tone of "i invented *something* that uses only water". And....? If you want the support and speedy development of your invention you share it with like-minded individuals. It's the only way.

Inventions like these should be developed the soonest because our growing world desperately needs an alternative power source.

Guys who bring about vague claims only waste the time of other inventors who would show interest in helping in its development.

[melvenb]

The second law of thermodynamics killed his water fueled car. That law is often referred to as the "irreversibility of nature" or the law of increasing entropy.

Ive heard that it is through electrolysis/hydrolysis of water that his car is able to run.
Here are some equations:

2H2O → 2H2 + O2 [Electrolysis step]
2H2 + O2 → 2H2O [Combustion step]

Since the first reaction is the reverse of the other, it should follow the second law of thermodynamics that no process can be 100% reversible. Even with the assumption that the combustion of Hydrogen is 100% efficient (which in reality is up to 20% efficient only). Then it can be concluded that the energy required to drive the electrolysis is greater than the energy produced by the combustion of hydrogen.

Hmm.. his car is still running even with a deficit in energy. either he has a hidden fuel tank or he must be going against the laws of thermodynamics...

he used batteries to separate hydrogen through water electrolysis.. therefore, batteries jud ang main source a2 iyang car..his invention was a joke... maypa iya nlang gidretso og battery powered iyang sakyanan mas efficient pa..

[COMCAM]

OT: Of course you have to use batteries in the process of electrolysis. Even today, you need a battery to start the engine.

Here is Honda's Hydrogen Fuel Cell car, the FCX - so it ran using water.
Honda FCX Clarity - Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle - Official Web Site

Sa kang dingle na car, He is not using batteries but used wet cell battery casings for the electrolysis kai it can withstand corrosion. Salt water biya eyang gamit kai mas naa activity on electrolysis ang taas ug mineral content.