Real Teachings of Jesus

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

PERSEVERE IN YOUR SEARCH FOR GOD

Sri Ramakrishna -- There are pearls in the deep sea, but one must hazard all to find them. If diving once does not bring you pearls, you need not therefore conclude that the sea is without them. Dive again and again. You are sure to be rewarded in the end. So is it with the finding of the Lord in this world. If your first attempt proves fruitless, do not lose heart. Persevere in your efforts. You are sure to realize Him at last.

Holy Mother -- Continue to pray without losing heart. Everything will happen in time.

Swami Vivekananda -- To succeed, you must have tremendous perseverance, tremendous will. "I will drink the ocean," says the persevering soul, "at my will mountains will crumble up." Have that sort of energy, that sort of will, work hard, and you will reach the goal.

Buddha -- Search with sincerity and persevere in your search. In the end you will find the Truth.

Guru Nanak -- Dwell on Him day after day, That thou mergest imperceptibly in His Name.

Jesus Christ -- And he told them a parable, to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart. He said, "In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor regarded man; and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, ‘Vindicate me against my adversary.’ For a while he refused; but afterward he said to himself, ‘Though I neither fear God nor regard man, yet because the widow bothers me, I will vindicate her, or she will wear me out by her continual coming’."

Judaism -- Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water, that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers.

Krishna -- I am easy of access to that ever steadfast yogi who, O Partha, constantly meditates on Me and gives no thought to anything else.

Mohammed -- Seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave.

Native American -- It may be that we shall receive no vision or message from the Great Spirit the first time that we lament [cry for a vision], yet we may try many times, for we should remember that Wakan-Tanka is always anxious to aid those who seek Him with a pure heart. But of course much depends on the nature of the person who cries for a vision, and upon the degree to which he has purified and prepared himself.

Rama -- Keeping company with My devotees, always serving Me and My Bhaktas, fasting on Ekadasi, celebrating the festivals connected with Me, hearing, reading and expounding My glories, worshipping Me with continuous devotion, and singing of My excellences: If one follows these precepts daily, one gets pure devotion.

Sankara -- The Atman that is Absolute Existence and Knowledge, can not be realized without constant practice. So one seeking Knowledge should meditate upon Brahman for the attainment of the desired goal.

Vedas -- This Atman, resplendent and pure, whom the sinless sannyasins behold residing within the body, is attained by unceasing practice of truthfulness, austerity, right knowledge, and continence.

Zoroaster -- Exert ceaselessly for the Glory of Ahura Mazda and for the good of the Universe.

[Breakeven]

@Breakeven
sure ka ang lion will only defend itself rather than attacking referring to your metaphor like its not a predatory creature?
sorry can't it help man gud kay kataw-anan man paminawn gi cage gani then imo buhihan then mu defend na hinuon..hahaha

And naa ko YES or NO question
Would you defend something that's not threatened?

YES or NO lang ha pugngi lang sa ang katol sa baba

imo man pud i literal ug sabot part oi wala man ka kakuha sa logic.
Meaning part, the only thing christians can do is to share the word of god, once ang truth makapenetrate sa kasing2 sa taw it will grow kay the more pa sya magpangita ug ang ginoo na ang mag work out sa iyaha.

[noy]

kasabot ko sa imong point bro. as i have said i cannot confirm if Mother Teresa had attained It. Kung naa ka Christ nimo, then you will know if the other person has it. Which only means... wa pa ko hehehe, kung naa man gani gamay ra pud kaayo, abog lang hehehe. actually, naa naman daw na nato, ang pag switch on lng daw ang kulang ana.

Naa ko na meet, who personally had helped Mother Theresa, naa daw na siya murag hospital didto sa India, unya naa daw mga pasyente nga baho daw kaayo, pero gi atiman daw ni Mother Teresa, siya pud nagtabang i don't kung pila ka months or years ba siya didto, basta dugay dugay pud daw. tingala siya, nga sa kabaho daw sa mga pasyente, si Mother Teresa daw ky humot daw gihapon kaayo. Wala man daw na uso sa India nga perfume2x, wa man gani seguro nauso ang kaligo sa ilaha hehe , bisan daw mag perfume ka, pero once mapilitan ka sa baho, di man gani na mawa dayon bisag magsabon pa ka ug maayo, pero si Mother Teresa ky humot daw kaayo.

Ni ask gani siya nga mother, why daw iya ng gibuhat, ingon si Mother Teresa, i don't know, there is this voice that say and command nga help these people. then gi ask nya, where to find God, ingon si Mother Teresa nga you see these sick people, they are gods nga nakalimot na sa ilang pagka god mao na nga na ingon ana na sila, mutoo ka ug sa dili sa storya, i'm sharing it with you

by the way bro, since 2003 bro, wa na gyud ko kapamakak hehe, maski sa damgo pa

by the way, lahi man ang Christ, maka tolerate ka tanan apil na ang lain lain nga religion ug beliefs, including mga dautan ug sa nakig-away nimo, mao pud seguro to ni Pope John Paul II napasaylo nya ang ni assassinate unta sa iya. i have heard nga nangayo daw ug sorry si Pope John Paul II about sa gipatoo sa catholic church about hell, murag naa sa internet pero gipugngan daw sa Vatican, but dili ko sure, tsimissism

basta ako ingon bro, dapat naa ka Christ before you can say nga Christ pud ang usa ka tao, only Christ can understand Christ, only gods can understand God, so i'm not saying that both of them had it or wala, if they had not attained it, they need to reincarnate and try it again, but since naa na sila history, gamay gamay na lng kulang, kung need ug 10 lives, unya 4 lives na ilang nahuman, 6 lives na lng at least, sa katong magsugod pa, 10 lives pa, example lng na ha

our hope of salvation is the unconditional love of God our Father, bisag gisuway nato siya ug maayo at the very start nga nikuyog ta ni satan, He still loves us, He gave us His only begotten Son, Christ (not Jesus), and Christ is in us already, it just needs to be switched on, and i think it is not easy and needs PERSEVERANCE to turn on that switch, mao na need gyud ta mo work... and perseverance is taught universally to go back to God

thanks sa sharing bro, the term gods and saints are often associated with each other...
mother theresa openly and teaches about her faith in Jesus.so i'm sure she cannot share with your POV since you
don't believe Jesus to be God

it is easy to Love our families bai,the ones closest to our hearts...
but Jesus said,Love your enemies and your neighbors(both we don't and know) as yourselves..
kana pa lang daan bai...grabe na kaau kalisud...i'm not saying that we should give up...
all i'm saying is i need a savior..
that's good that you haven't told a single lie my sister doesn't lie, but she don't believe in God either.

anyways, here are the basic Christian Point of views about Jesus,Men and Salvation
source:Bible scriptures on Salvation in Jesus Christ
please take time to read them,since you said that you are still in the gathering of data part in your scientific process of problem solving, so i am sharing it with you as well

1. All men are sinners:
Rom.3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God
Eccl.7:20 Not a just man on earth, that...sinneth not
Isa.64:6 All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
Rom.3:10 There is none righteous, no not one
Jam.2:10 Whoever shall offend in one point (of law), guilty of all
1Jn.1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves

2. Salvation by grace (undeserved mercy), not works:
Eph.2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith, not of yourselves...not of works
Mk.10:25-27 Who can be saved? With men it is impossible
Rom.3:20a By deeds of law shall no flesh be justified in His sight
Rom.11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works
Gal.2:16 Justified by the faith of Christ and not by works of the law
2Tim.1:9 Saved us, not according to our works, but according to His grace
Tit.3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done

3. Salvation only through Jesus:
Acts 4:12 None other name...whereby we must be saved
1Tim.2:5 One mediator between God and men...Christ Jesus
Jn.3:16 God...gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, should...have everlasting life
Jn.3:36b He that believeth not the Son shall not see life
Jn.8:24 If ye believe not that I am He, ye shall die in your sins
Jn.10:1 He that entereth not by the door...but climbeth up some other way...is a thief and a robber
Jn.10:9 I am the door: by Me if any man enter in...be saved
Jn.14:6 I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by Me
1Cor.3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than... Jesus Christ
1Jn.5:12 He that hath not the Son of God hath not life

4. Believe on Jesus:
Jn.3:16 Whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life
Jn.11:25,26 I am the resurrection and the life...whosoever believeth in Me shall never die
Acts 16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved
Rom.10:9,10 If thou shalt...believe in thine heart...thou shalt be saved
1Jn.5:1a Whosoever believeth Jesus is the Christ is born of God

5. Receive Jesus:
Rev.3:20 If any man...open the door, I will come in to him
Jn.1:12 But as many as received Him...power to become sons
Gal.4:6 God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your heart
Eph.3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith

6. Eternal salvation:
A. You can never lose it, even if you make mistakes and fall:
Psa.37:24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the Lord upholdeth him with His hand
Jn.3:36a He that believeth on the Son...hath everlasting life
Jn.6:37 Him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out
Jn.10:28 I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of My hand
Rom.8:38,39 I am persuaded that [nothing] shall be able to separate us from the love of God...in Christ Jesus
1Cor.3:11-15 [If works are] wood, hay and stubble...shall be burned, yet he himself shall be saved
1Cor.5:5 Destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved
Heb.13:5b I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee
2Tim.2:13 Though we believe not, yet He abideth faithful
1Jn.5:13 Ye may know that ye have eternal life

B. But the Lord will chasten you for wrongdoing:
Psa.89:30-34 If they break My statutes...I will visit with the rod...(but) My lovingkindness will I not utterly take away
Heb.12:5-8 Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth
Rev.3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten
7. Receiving Jesus guarantees eternal life in Heaven:
Rom.6:23b The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ
Jn.11:26 Whosoever...believeth in Me shall never die
Jn.14:2-3 In My Father's house are many mansions
1Pet.1:3,4 Incorruptible inheritance reserved in Heaven for you
1Jn.5:11 God hath given to us eternal life...in His Son
(See Rev.21:1-27 and 22:1-5 for a description of Heaven)

8. The results of being born again:
A. Spiritual rebirth makes you a new creature:
Jn.3:3b Except a man be born again, he cannot see Kingdom
Mat.18:3 Be converted and become as little children
Jn.1:13 Born, not of blood, nor of the will of man, but of God
Rom.12:2a Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind
2Cor.5:17 If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature
1Pet.1:23 Born again, not of corruptible seed, but...by the Word of God
B. You will desire to work for Jesus:
Eph.2:10 We are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works
Tit.2:14 (Jesus) gave Himself for us (to) purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works
(See also Eph.4:21-24; Col.3:8-10; Tit.3:8; Jam.2:18.)
9. Sin brings about spiritual death; but Jesus died in our place, taking our punishment:
Isa.59:1 Your iniquities have separated you and your God
Rom.6:23 The wages of (penalty for) sin is death
Rom.5:8 While we were sinners, Christ died for us
2Cor.5:21 He hath made Him (Jesus) to be sin for (in place of) us
1Jn.1:9 If we confess our sins, He [will] forgive and cleanse us
1Jn.2:1,2 We have an advocate...Jesus Christ. He is the propitiation for...the sins of the whole world

10. In the Mosaic law, blood is payment for sin; Jesus' death paid that price in full:
Lev.17:11 It is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul
Heb.9:22 Without shedding of blood is no remission [of sin]
Mat.26:28 My blood...shed for the remission of sins
1Jn.1:7 The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin
Jn.1:29 The Lamb of God, which taketh away sin of the world
Eph.1:7 We have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins (See also 1Jn.2:12)
1Pet.1:18,19 Ye were redeemed...with the precious blood of Christ

11. All men are not saved sons of God in their natural state:
Eph.2:2,3,12 Ye were children of disobedience, children of wrath, aliens and strangers without Christ
Mat.7:13 Wide is the gate...that leadeth to destruction, and many... go in thereat
Jn.3:19 Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light
Jn.8:44 Ye are of your father the devil
Jn.8:47 Ye hear (God's Words) not, because ye are not of God

12. The self-righteous refuse Jesus' salvation:
(See Mat.5:20; 9:10-13; 21:31b; Lk.18:9-14; Jn.5:39-44; Rom.10:3; 1Jn.1:9,10.)
13. New Testament examples of salvation:
Lk.19:1-10 [Conversion of the corrupt tax-collector, Zaccheus]
Acts 9:1-22 [Conversion of apostle Paul] (See also Acts 6:8-14; 7:57-60; 8:1-4; 26:9-11.)
Acts 10:1-8 [Conversion of Roman centurion Cornelius]
Acts 13:1-12 [Conversion of governor of Cyprus, Sergius Paulus]
Acts 16:13-34 [Conversion of the merchant Lydia and Roman jailor]

[vahnhelsing]

maayong gabie sa mga tigtampo dri.

boot ko nga mohatag sa akong diyutay nga panahom.
Kining magtatampo hangtod ning taknaa nagpangita kun unsa
gayud ang kamatooran ning tanan. Kun kinsa gayud ang tiunay
nga manluluwas ug Ginoo. Apan bisan paman sa ingon, sa akong
panagduki-duki sa bibliya, akong nasinati ang mga pulong
nga nakapapukaw sa akong galamhan ug nakahatag ug katin-awan
isip magtotoo. Tataw nga matod sa bibliya si Kristo usa ka Ginoo kun
Diyos nga nikunsad dri sa yuta, nagpakatawo aron luwason kita gikan
sa atong pagkasala. Kini timailhan kun unsa gayud kita ka mahinungdanon
sa Ginoo. Kun unsa ang amahan mao usab ang anak. Ang amahan ug anak
usa ra. Apan wala dri natapos ang tanan, padayon lang gihapon kita
pagtugkad sa kamatooran, makiangayon lamang nga dili kita magpaulipon
ug maadto sa kahiwian.

[Breakeven]

@jovi
nice imong share bai but totally different sad sa akong experience with the Holy Spirit. I dont know if this same experience sa spirituality is pareha raba ang gitawag "awakened state". Sa akoa lang pud sabot, ang bottomline sa imong point is "OPENING OF THE THIRD EYE". I believe in that but for me dili na mao ang makaluwas nato bisan kapila pa na mabuka...and one thing, if it is the way to salvation and God's will, can you please try to open up and share to us the steps how to open it here in the forum? But if something mystical and occult mo involve na anang imong teachings, i will totally abhor it! Akoa lang pud is that it is against the teachings of biblical Christianity, even in the OT times.

What is confusing in your belief is that for people to be saved is to "switch on" in order to go back to God while for us is to have this personal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. Wala nami anang reincarnation. This world will be judged in the end of times ug dili mo last ang kalibutan bisan pa gani sa atong na observe sa mga panghitabo karon. Mamatay nalang tang tanan, dili gihapon mo ascend into "godhood" ang tanan taw.

Do you know that in order for you to be of the same level as Jesus Christ, you should have an extraordinary claims and deeds? aside from that you should have the ability and power to conquer death.

[Breakeven]

@jovi

Layo ra kayo ta nga mahimong parehas ni Jesus CHrist bai. Usa na ana is that, He was born perfect, living a spotless life. Try to check this link and imong macompare kung asa naka dapit ani....

Tungod sa nagkalain-laing interpretation about God since from the beginning, God sent His son to break the confusing beliefs and to lead us away from Satan's lies.

Jesus, is the incarnation of God. God in the Flesh. Image of the invisible God. Dili ta makasabot sa ginoo kung wala sya magpakataw ug nishare kung unsa jud iyang will. Magpabilin nga kutob lang sa atong imagination kung kinsa jud sya!

Jesus in every book of the bible

[jmyrj]

just be a good person..mao raman gyud nah ang important..bisan kinsa pa imu ginoo, that rule applies

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

@jovi

Layo ra kayo ta nga mahimong parehas ni Jesus CHrist bai. Usa na ana is that, He was born perfect, living a spotless life. Try to check this link and imong macompare kung asa naka dapit ani....

Tungod sa nagkalain-laing interpretation about God since from the beginning, God sent His son to break the confusing beliefs and to lead us away from Satan's lies.

Jesus, is the incarnation of God. God in the Flesh. Image of the invisible God. Dili ta makasabot sa ginoo kung wala sya magpakataw ug nishare kung unsa jud iyang will.

Jesus in every book of the bible

sakto ka bro, layo ra gyud. thinking 2000 years ago ingon ana na siya daan, samot pa karon, sa list bro, murag wa ko bisag usa , but i will strive/persevere as taught by Jesus and many other men of wisdom in search of God and to be like Jesus, ayaw lng seguro to palansang sa krus , gitikon lng ko ug way undang2x sugot ra ko. it may be fruitless, but i'll still strive to find a way to my Father, the Lord our God. Jesus will be my guide and my inspiration sa wa na diri sa earth. ug sa naa diri sa earth, experience will be my best teacher and i will need that, ky maski trabaho gani karon, mangita na ug naa na experience hehehe , samot pa ni God. I will not wait for Jesus, I will look for him. but the main goal is God the Father for me for He is the source of everything in this universe.

Thanks for your contribution bro, i appreciate it very much.

[corehunter]

mag-abot ra mo ts uy...
ikaw mag-abot kas punto nga mapungot ka..
hahaha.. share-share lang gud mo..

sa dhang nag abot jud diay, kay subraan sa kapongot, gipa delete ang thread..
but it's ok, magpangita lng nya mo sa umaabot na panahon na mahitabo na..
wa ta kahibaw basin ana nga time na mangita mo, di na ninu makit-an..

[Breakeven]

sakto ka bro, layo ra gyud. thinking 2000 years ago ingon ana na siya daan, samot pa karon, sa list bro, murag wa ko bisag usa , but i will strive/persevere as taught by Jesus and many other men of wisdom in search of God and to be like Jesus, ayaw lng seguro to palansang sa krus , gitikon lng ko ug way undang2x sugot ra ko. it may be fruitless, but i'll still strive to find a way to my Father, the Lord our God. Jesus will be my guide and my inspiration sa wa na diri sa earth. ug sa naa diri sa earth, experience will be my best teacher and i will need that, ky maski trabaho gani karon, mangita na ug naa na experience hehehe , samot pa ni God. I will not wait for Jesus, I will look for him. but the main goal is God the Father for me for He is the source of everything in this universe.

Thanks for your contribution bro, i appreciate it very much.

welcome bro. i learned things from your point as well. thanks also.
honestly, kaagi sad ko anang occult bro but im not comfortable with it. Id rather choose the easier way to God. Relationship with Him i think is the best answer to life.

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: