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  1. #171

    Default Re: Is Faith enough to save you?

    James does not argue that good works are required for salvation. Nor does he say that deeds are more important than beliefs. Rather, he insists that there are two kinds of faith—one legitimate and the other illegitimate; faith…made complete (v.22) and faith without deeds (v.20). Both are 'Belief" in one sense of the word. But legitimate faith goes deeper than "right thinking" to "right living."

    Confusion may arise, however, when we recall that Paul writes that we cannot earn salvation. He uses Abraham as an example of one who received God's promise, not through human effort, but through faith (Gal. 3:6-12).

    James also uses Abraham as an example, but his focus and emphasis are different than Paul's. He skips over the futility of human effort to discuss the futility of deficient faith—faith that stops at the intellectual level. Even demons have that kind of "faith," James exclaims (v. 19)!

    James's point, then, is that Abraham exercised authentic faith—demonstrated by his actions. Abraham's deeds earned him nothing, but they proved his faith was genuine: Right faith led to right actions. If he had not trusted God, Abraham could never have offered his son—the fulfillment of God's promise—on the altar (vv. 21-22). Paul uses Abraham to show that people are justified on the basis of real faith; James shows that Abraham's faith was proven to be real because it worked (compare Gal. 5:6).

    So then, we don't need anything but faith—the right kind of faith—to be saved by God. And our behavior will show what our faith is made of, whether or not it is legitimate.


  2. #172

    Default Re: Is Faith enough to save you?

    So then, we don't need anything but faith—the right kind of faith—to be saved by God. And our behavior will show what our faith is made of, whether or not it is legitimate.

    See, you said "And our behavior will show what our faith is made of, whether or not it is legitimate." It means behavior which resulted into GOOD WORKS will show what our faith is made of. And if it will not resulted in GOOD WORKS will you be saved? so again and again WE cannot remove GOOD WORKS from FAITH...

    It will seems only confusing to the believers by saying FATIH ALONE. Bacause by that statement "FATIH ALONE" it will mean LAZY CHRISTIAN... Whereas base on your explanation it will comeout that TRUE or REAL FAITH will resulted into GOOD WORKS...

    I wonder why you will not include GOOD WORKS in your teaching. It seems you hide it. But if we dig deeper and deeper then it will come out that GOOD WORKS is the product of FAITH and that WITHOUT GOOD WORKS as the product of FAITH then we could not be saved...

    GOOD WORKS are important my friend and why hide it from your slogan... " FATIH ALONE"?

    God be praised!

  3. #173

    Default Re: Is Faith enough to save you?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleseye
    So then, we don't need anything but faith—the right kind of faith—to be saved by God. And our behavior will show what our faith is made of, whether or not it is legitimate.

    See, you said "And our behavior will show what our faith is made of, whether or not it is legitimate." It means behavior which resulted into GOOD WORKS will show what our faith is made of. And if it will not resulted in GOOD WORKS will you be saved? so again and again WE cannot remove GOOD WORKS from FAITH...

    It will seems only confusing to the believers by saying FATIH ALONE. Bacause by that statement "FATIH ALONE" it will mean LAZY CHRISTIAN... Whereas base on your explanation it will comeout that TRUE or REAL FAITH will resulted into GOOD WORKS...

    I wonder why you will not include GOOD WORKS in your teaching. It seems you hide it. But if we dig deeper and deeper then it will come out that GOOD WORKS is the product of FAITH and that WITHOUT GOOD WORKS as the product of FAITH then we could not be saved...

    GOOD WORKS are important my friend and why hide it from your slogan... " FATIH ALONE"?

    God be praised!
    Peace to all of us either christian or not

  4. #174

    Default Faith as a tree and as a size

    Faith is typically a biblical concept. by faith Abel obeyed God. Like him, Enoch trusted God too. how about you? do you trust God?

  5. #175

    Default Re: Faith as a tree and as a size

    I'm tempted to say "Of course!" but how can one person be sure nga ni-trust jud siya ni God? We have free will and intellect baya.

  6. #176

    Default Re: Faith as a tree and as a size

    one knows if one trust god or not, the problem would come in, if you think god needs your trust

  7. #177

    Default Re: Faith as a tree and as a size

    Quote Originally Posted by gr8pinay
    I'm tempted to say "Of course!" but how can one person be sure nga ni-trust jud siya ni God? We have free will and intellect baya.
    people reading the bible and have encountered the word FREE WILL has many misconception.
    They took it as everyday Free Will to follow Him or not.

    The Free Will is a one time chance.
    Its our will to follow or deny Him.
    Once we decided to Folllow Him then His will must be done not ours.

    Peace!


  8. #178

    Default Re: Faith as a tree and as a size

    Quote Originally Posted by gr8pinay
    I'm tempted to say "Of course!" but how can one person be sure nga ni-trust jud siya ni God? We have free will and intellect baya.
    correct!
    mao na nga human ta og dili ta robot og mananap.! :mrgreen:

  9. #179

    Default Re: Faith as a tree and as a size

    Naa ta Free Will magpakasala. mao na dili gusto sa Ginoo.

  10. #180

    Default Re: Faith as a tree and as a size

    Aye.

    I think faith is like belief in terms of thought and emotion while, trust is like belief in terms of action. It's relatively easier to have faith in God than it is to trust Him. It's tempting for me to say I trust God but, I fail more often that I would like. I believe trusting God is a choice and a challenge.

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