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  1. #171

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles


    Resources: Incompatibility of Freemasonry with the Catholic Faith

    Here are some recent official declarations of the Catholic Church on freemasonry and some articles. I post this so as to clear up any confusion on the OFFICIAL POSITION of the Catholic Church. The matter is settled. Freemasonry is incompatible with the Catholic Faith. Catholics who become freemaosns are automatically EXCOMMUNICATED. Period. Anything else you say simply doesn't change the official position of the Church.

    • The Catholic Encyclopedia: Freemasonry
      http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09771a.htm


    • What is the Catholic Church's official position on Freemasonry?
      Are Catholics free to become Freemasons?

      http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/CAMASON1.HTM

      "The Church has imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics
      who become Freemasons.
      The penalty of excommunication for joining
      the Masonic Lodge was explicit in the 1917 code of canon law (canon
      2335), and it is implicit in the 1983 code (canon 1374)."


    • CATHOLICISM VS. FREEMASONRY—IRRECONCILABLE FOREVER
      Rev. Robert I. Bradley, S.J.
      http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/BACAFM.HTM


    • QUAESITUM EST
      Declaration on Masonic Associations

      http://showcase.netins.net/web/clearlight/mason2.html

      Therefore, the Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic
      associations remains unchanged since their principles have always
      been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and,
      therefore, membership in them remains forbidden.
      The faithful, who
      enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may
      not receive Holy Communion.

      It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give
      a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a
      derogation from what has been decided above,
      and this in line with
      the declaration of this sacred congregation issued Feb. 17,1981.

      (mannyamador's note: this means that a sermon of any Catholic priest DOES NOT have the authority
      to change the official position of the Catholic Church).


    The other posts onyl served to muddle the issue. There is no middle ground for Catholics. Sorry, springfield, but since you are already a freemason you are ALREADY EXCOMMUNICATED.

  2. #172

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    George Washington & 13 Others including Benjamin Franklin (the $100.00 Bill) that signed the declaration of Independence are/were Freemasons.

    So why the Catholic Church have so much beef w/ the Freemasons And why there are Protestants

    is it because the Catholic Church are so much in authority that when someone questions its teachings & practices - they'll say "Blasphemy, The devil is in you & you should be hang or Burn @ the stakes"

    So why King Philippe of France order the termination of the Knights Templar And why the Pope was so loyal w/ King Philippe

    It was told that King Philippe was so much in Debt (monetary & favors) w/ the Knights Templar. Not only the Knights Templar are skilled in the battlefield but they were also skilled in Masonry & "Treasure Hunting". It was also told that the reason that the Knights Templar are so liquid & rich because they stumbled upon King Solomons Temple & its treasures. They also found a lot of stuff @ the Holy Land like the Bones of Mary Magdalene, the infamous Head of John the Baptist, lost scriptures that were not written in the Holy Bible, the Carpenters Cup etc...etc.

    Probably the Knights Templar were so secretive that they wont share the knowledge, fortunes & "Dirt" to their Boss "The Pope" or either their "Boss" knows about it & probably enjoys the wealth but "He" needs to contain & prevent further contoversy in the Catholic Church...thus he gave in & allowed the execution, torture & death on the Templars.

    [img width=500 height=500]http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/templars/templarchurchb.jpg[/img] [img width=500 height=375]http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/templars/pikk012bigab.jpg[/img]

  3. #173

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles


    KUDOS to Springfield_XD_40!!!!




  4. #174

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    I will end my discussion with MANNY AMADOR because he REFUSES to absorb the essence of knowledge and truth . Manny , whatever you think and do , continue to do it the CHRISTIAN way .


    @ SPEC V .... kakita ka sa HISTORY CHANNEL last night regarding theÂ* FREEMASONRY ? I hope naay replay kay ive heard from previews na all the doubts of the skeptics , consipray theorists , Chrisitian and Catholic fanatics are answered there . BTW ... Knights of Templars are not only the SPECIAL FORCES back in the days but are also excellent BANKERS and TRADESMEN .

    On behalf of the articles or authored books that where all sourced out from the VATICAN , we have to put into factor that majority of it are INHERETANCE of the POPE before them till it is traced back to the medieval times w/c SPEC V clearly already put out . They are threaten .... again THREATEN for WHAT ?? Thats the reason why such accusations to live in harmony is not permitted and to co exist with other men because of religion . Someone forgot that the Holy Pope is also a mortal being that is subjected to errors and wrong judgement if thats the case .

    Hmmmp !! IU am EXCOMMUNICATED already !! Huhuhuhuhu ..... tsk tsk tsk LOLZ .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  5. #175

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    ^^ OT:excommunicated na man ka dire...tara na balik ta didto sa culinary talk kay namingaw na nuon to didto da...

  6. #176

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40

    @ SPEC V .... kakita ka sa HISTORY CHANNEL last night regarding the FREEMASONRY ? I hope naay replay kay ive heard from previews na all the doubts of the skeptics , consipray theorists , Chrisitian and Catholic fanatics are answered there . BTW ... Knights of Templars are not only the SPECIAL FORCES back in the days but are also excellent BANKERS and TRADESMEN .

    On behalf of the articles or authored books that where all sourced out from the VATICAN , we have to put into factor that majority of it are INHERETANCE of the POPE before them till it is traced back to the medieval times w/c SPEC V clearly already put out . They are threaten .... again THREATEN for WHAT ?? Thats the reason why such accusations to live in harmony is not permitted and to co exist with other men because of religion . Someone forgot that the Holy Pope is also a mortal being that is subjected to errors and wrong judgement if thats the case .

    Hmmmp !! IU am EXCOMMUNICATED already !! Huhuhuhuhu ..... tsk tsk tsk LOLZ .
    Sus..tya, it was shown for one week very informative dyud....mosaka dyud ang imong kilay sa mga kalihokan ug modus operandi sa mga leaders sa Catholic Church sa Middle Ages. Grabi ka "Dirt Alert"

    Dunno if ila ba kaha i-replay. Order na lang kay ni order ko...heres the website History Channel

  7. #177

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
    BTW ... Knights of Templars are not only the SPECIAL FORCES back in the days but are also excellent BANKERS and TRADESMEN .
    Yep..they were the 1st offshore Bankers in our time. They are also the 1st owners & CEO's in Swiss Bank Operations in Switzerland.

  8. #178

    Default Re: FREE MASONRY - the Principles

    for me noh, as a DeMolay...kanang Catholic and Free Masons mga friends jud na cla, as in friends nga close jud...and then ang naa man mga binuhatan ang Catholic Church nga dili ganahan ang Masons...(dili lang ko mag tell )..basta mao na cya...wa man sad sila nag away, dili cguro ganahan ang Catholic nga ma BISTO ila lihok...mao super SENSITIVE, DEFENSIVE, and mang daot sa Free Masons...and dili mi mo mind ana kay wa man sad mi nang daot nila...mao DAGHAN MAG HIMO2x ug bad articles and stories about Masonry...

    and kana inyo gi ingon nga naay ni talk ninyo about sa organization nga ingon ana ang binuhatan sa sulod...pang daut na ila...in the 1st place di man ka mahawa sa Masonry if wala ka sala nga gi buhat...why man mo ingon pa sila ug quit nga pwede ra gud ka ma in-active...kana binotbot na ila gi ingon nga mi quit sila kay mao ni, mao na ang ila na witness sa sulod... kana sila nka sala na sila ug dako...so gi terminate...

  9. #179

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40
    I will end my discussion with MANNY AMADOR because he REFUSES to absorb the essence of knowledge and truth.
    If you had knowledge and truth, I would accept it. But you don't.

    May I suggest you brush up on simple logical thinking. You are very inconsistent in your statement. You seem to contradict yourself at every turn.

    On behalf of the articles or authored books that where all sourced out from the VATICAN, we have to put into factor that majority of it are INHERETANCE of the POPE before them till it is traced back to the medieval times w/c SPEC V clearly already put out . They are threaten
    Here's another logical fallacy on your part: argumentum ad hominem. Instead of addressing the issues, you choose to attack the source. That doesn't work. If you really want to know the truth, why don't you just ask your masonic superiors if freemasonry teaches indifferentism? Why are you so afraid to ask? Is it because that as a freemason you ALREADY know that freemasonry DOES teach indifferentism?

    Hmmmp !! IU am EXCOMMUNICATED already !! Huhuhuhuhu ..... tsk tsk tsk LOLZ .
    You can read the statement above. It clearly states that Catholics who become freemasons are excommunicated. That is the OFFICIAL CHURCH STAND. You cannot speak for the Church. The Vatican DOES.

  10. #180

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    mao nay nka daut dha...EXCOMUNICATED dritso...asa man ang Human Rights ani?...soooosss kusog kaayo magpa dungog2x ug human rights unya mao man sad diay ila buhaton...ingon ana diay sila ka powerful?...ma ning2x lagi ko ana...hehehe

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