Loose Change 2nd Edition - 9/11 Conspiracy Documentary

[bleedingboi]

OT: Why don't you guys discuss this personally, with beer on hands, dancing lights around (you guys can be buddies while discussing different sides, come on! its Christmas hehe). This might be easier and faster, you guys might get a conclusion

It would have been a good scenario... It's like witnessing a Psychiatrist and his mental patient in a bar drinking beer and talking "sane", and "senseful" things.

[bleedingboi]

but why no one sued alex jones on his accusations of the government involvement in 9/11?
why no one sued jesse ventura for his conspiracy theory shows?

I got three words for this.


Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Have you ever heard of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution?
Go read it. Cge ka ug protesta against America, pero you're unaware of their flagship amendment...

If the US government sue Alex "fatbrain" Jones and Jessie "craphead" Ventura, then they can surely sue and detain the rest of the 100 million population who protest on the streets everyday. Where's your logic homo?

[jessieventura]

I got three words for this.


Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

Have you ever heard of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution?
Go read it. Cge ka ug protesta against America, pero you're unaware of their flagship amendment...

If the US government sue Alex "fatbrain" Jones and Jessie "craphead" Ventura, then they can surely sue and detain the rest of the 100 million population who protest on the streets everyday. Where's your logic homo?

i love it when this guy feels he knows what he is talking about.
iron burns again?

i know pretty well what the first amendment is.
the first amendment has its exceptions.
in this case i was talking of
FALSE STATEMENT OF FACTS

If ALEX JONES was Making a FALSE STATEMENT
he would have been sued.
The first amendment could not protect him.

This is why the government could not sue him.
BECAUSE HE IS JUST STATING THE FACT
He is not making a false statement of facts.
He is telling the truth.
And that whats make him invincible.

Read your constitution again smart mouth trash talker.
stop accusing me of being like you.

[CocoCrunch]

not my job to convict them. naunsa naman tawn ka dodong.
what is important is that people will know.
and when people already know it all.
i will let the family of the victims make their move--they will demand whatever they want for the justice of those who were killed.
they most probably demand a new investigation.

and so far who knows or believed you?
you will "let" the family make their move? its funny how u use the word let.

[jessieventura]

still found this thread funny do you?
work on your empathy cococrunch.
it always gives you away.

AIRSPEED IMPOSSIBLE
the government told us thru NIST that the planes crashing the building of a certain airspeed.
that was again a lie.

Why is air speed important to understand regarding 9/11?
It is because NTSB radar data released by them appears to be false, as is flight data recorder data provided by US government agencies per FOIA requests.
FAA 586 mph or 509 knots ALL THESE SPEEDS ARE TOO FAST
NIST 546 mph or 474 knots
FEMA 590 mph or 512 knots.

In addition analysis of the video tapes of UA 175 flying into the North Tower is too fast.
Therefore, we must understand the difference between air speed and ground speed for a pilot who is flying a commercial jet. If he/she has a head wind blowing at 15 mph, then the air speed is 15 miles per hour faster than the ground speed. It is important because if the airplane goes too slow, the wings do not produce enough life to hold up the weight of the jet up in the air vs. the pull of gravity, resulting in the airplane falling out of the sky. So the pilot has to speed up the engines and/or point the nose of the airplane downward to fly the airplane like a glider until the air speed again increases and lift increases.
Another factor in air speed is the jet pilot does not want to go too fast at lower altitude, faster than roughly 320 to 350 mph (ground speed) because this causes him/her to also lose control of the aircraft. That is, the nose of the 767 starts to rise uncontrollably and the only way the pilot can regain control is to slow down the air speed of the airplane.
So need to watch this u-tube video
FLight 175 speed challenge. 911 'planes' impossible speed. - YouTube
Now a commercial jet can fly some 500 mph (ground speed) at 30,000 feet where the air is thinner, but you now see why it can not have flown into the Twin Towers at the speeds noted by our government agencies on 9/11.
More information about flight data recorders (black boxes) and the NTSB spread sheet given up via FOIA request see:
9/11: World Trade Center Attack on Vimeo


copy pasted from pilotsfor911truth.org

at the altitude of the building, the plane is not controllable.
That is why it is very imposible for the pilot to crash into WTC building unless it wasnt a 747. It could only be remote controlled military drones that can execute such precise crash on WTC.

[CocoCrunch]

it's still so funny how you waste your time with this event. maypa mofocus ka sa atong corruption sa pinas. ganahan man kaha ka matabangan atong utang.

why are u questioning my empathy? your goal in doing this is so impossible. wala gihapon ka kagets?

[jessieventura]

it's still so funny how you waste your time with this event. maypa mofocus ka sa atong corruption sa pinas. ganahan man kaha ka matabangan atong utang.

why are u questioning my empathy? your goal in doing this is so impossible. wala gihapon ka kagets?

OT:
ikaw ang wala ka gets! empathy tells a lot of your state of mind.
dili ko nimo pwede sultian unsay akong buhaton.
wala gihapon ka kasabot? even if you are a narc the reality is wala kay control nako cococrunch.
mas nakahibaw ko kung unsa akong buhaton.

pakialamero man gud ka pagkatawo.

wala gani kay business diri nga thread.
puro ra ka pacomment comment. sayop pa jud.
pangita na didtog lungag para sa imong ulo. hapit na mabuko ang bilderberg group.

kung hunahunaon puro out of topic ang imong mga post.
pabor jud ning mods ta dah.

Back to Topic ta.
I hope nakasabot mo nga impossible kaayo nga bangaon ang WTC building tungod sa kamubo sa altitude og kung ang gikusgon sa paglupad sa eroplano sama sa gihisgot sa NIST. Lisod i-control and plane ato nga speed.
imagina na lang nga mugrahe ka sa imong grahe at the a very high speed. usa ka sayop nga liso sa imong manebela tuwad ang imong auto.

[CocoCrunch]

wala koy control nimo?
you should re-read your responses here.
the reality is we are playing with you and you are spending and wasting more time telling us jokes.

actually no one cares what we post here. mods are giving you free ticket to post your delusions and frustrations and we dont actually feel wasting our precious time with your threads. they all want attention and you need them for your sanity. awp

the event is old and not interesting anymore and there are new events that happened- yet you are stuck. i dont pity you anymore. you should thank our presence here. if not because of us, you'd be alone here. no one cares what you say except us. mata na doc oi

[bleedingboi]

i love it when this guy feels he knows what he is talking about.
iron burns again?
.

Sure Iron burns. "Burn" is an English word a slang for the scientific term "oxidation". Iron oxidizes. Tiguang kang dako, bogo pa ka ug grammar ug simple science. Mu-try pa gyud ka ug debate with children's science books and proven scientific fact.

Since mao man gyud na imu ibalik2x, Engineer Jobless. Ibalik napud nako ha, para mabasa sa tanan unsa gyud ka ka bright.

1) Oxidation is the chemical reaction that occurs when anything burns in air.

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2)Here's the difference:

Iron- Slow burn, if you need iron to burn faster, grind it up in powder. Increased surface area allows quicker oxidation.
Wood - Rapid burn. No need to heighten surface area due to low energy activation requirement.

3) Iron like other metals requires a much higher activation energy compared to paper or wood. Reaching temperatures of 1000c to oxidize faster.

4)As performed by David A Katz, a Chemist, please look at the scientific procedure below and see his conclusion:

http://www.chymist.com/Oxidation%20-...ron%20burn.pdf

5)Here's another experiment documenting iron burning:

http://www.topscience.org/activities...Download11.pdf

6)Thomas Aquinas has also witnessed the burning property of Iron.
The Catholic Faith, Scripture, and the Question of the Existence of Intelligent Extra-terrestrial Life

7) Michael Faraday's lectures and a demonstrates on iron powder burning incandescent in air.
http://www.fordham.edu/HALSALL/MOD/1...ay-forces.html
And hundred more sources (Encyclopedia, science journals and articles) to defend this fact. Basaha tanan links Engineer Jobless, dli ni youtube ha, dli pud ni pro or anti 911 conspiracy, this is basic high school, elementary sources.

[bleedingboi]

i know pretty well what the first amendment is.
the first amendment has its exceptions.
in this case i was talking of
FALSE STATEMENT OF FACTS

If ALEX JONES was Making a FALSE STATEMENT
he would have been sued.
The first amendment could not protect him.

This is why the government could not sue him.
BECAUSE HE IS JUST STATING THE FACT
He is not making a false statement of facts.
He is telling the truth.
And that whats make him invincible.

Read your constitution again smart mouth trash talker.
stop accusing me of being like you.

Good. Good. Sagpaon nasad tika sa meaning of the word "Fact". Gamit utok tiguang be.

How can one radio host (Alex Jones) prove facts with the WTC collapse? He's not even a Physics graduate or a scientist.
IS this what you call a fact?

Hundreds of protesters wailing about Bush being a terrorist and OSama Bin Laden's friend, did the Government arrest them? NO

Jessie Ventura claims he was abducted by aliens sponsored by the US government. Did the government sue or arrest him? NO

Rosie O'Donnell thinks fire cannot melt steel on WTC, did the Government sue her? NO.

The Government doesn't need to brawl with the first amendment, these junks needs no first amendment to protect them. why?

They waste too much taxpayer's money, time and are complete nuts? The government is simply ignoring.