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  1. #161

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?


    Quote Originally Posted by geoseph
    Malachi 4
    5 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."

    Luke 1
    11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 12When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear. 13 But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him the name John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth. 16 Many of the people of Israel will he bring back to the Lord their God. 17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

    Matthew 11
    7 As John's disciples were leaving, Jesus began to speak to the crowd about John: "What did you go out into the desert to see? A reed swayed by the wind? 8 If not, what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings' palaces. 9 Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. 10 This is the one about whom it is written:

    " 'I will send my messenger ahead of you,
    who will prepare your way before you.'
    11 I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. 13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15 He who has ears, let him hear.

    Matthew 17 (also Mark 9)
    10 The disciples asked him,"Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"

    11 Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands." 13 Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.


    However...

    John 1
    19 Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Christ."

    21 They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?"
    He said, "I am not."
    "Are you the Prophet?"
    He answered, "No."


    22 Finally they said, "Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?"

    23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, "I am the voice of one calling in the desert, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.' "
    ---

    Do references to John as Elijah come again mean Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist?

    Nice input.

    There's another scenario in the bible where the passages also suggest Reincarnation. I will soon post it IF the guys here CAN give an explanation or argument to what geoseph posted.

  2. #162

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA
    moabot gyud ang adlaw nga mobalik ang ginoo...

    unya inig balilk niya, possible diay nga ang mga animals i apil ug judge kay reincarnated man ang uban kaha ana... hehehe

    unsaon nlng sa ug ang baboy moatubang sa ginoo unya pangutan-on kon unsay nabuhat nimo sa kalibutan..moingon lng nya ang baboy ug oinkk...oink..oink hahahaha

    Sir wala man namo gi base ang reincarnation sa Judeo-christian nga concept sa spirituality. So dili nimo ma reconcile ang reincarnation sa concept nga imong gihatag.

  3. #163

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    question nako sa mutuog reincarnation:

    diba sa 1800's kay mas gamay ang population sa 1900's og ang 1900's population kay mas gamay sa 2000's population? kung nireincarnate ta diin ta kuhag laing soul para sa nitaas nga population?

    I mean kung ako nabuhi sa una pag 1800's nya 1.5 billion ra ang population nya karon nabuhi ko nga ang poplulation kay 6 billion na, unsa man naay yeast ang soul sa reincarnation kay nanaghan or nitubo?

    Peace!

    So asa man gikan ang mga tao?

    In other cosmological argument ingun didto nga there are different realms nga existing and its more populated than the physical universe. Its been said that our physical universe is only 1/4 in terms of size sa spiritual world.


    and dont count out the animal kingdom.


    Ikaw asa gikan ang tao? di ba ingun naman ang bibliya nga nahman na sa Ginoo ang tanan niyuang Creation after Seven days. So asa man gikan ang Tao?

  4. #164

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tattva

    Sir wala man namo gi base ang reincarnation sa Judeo-christian nga concept sa spirituality. So dili nimo ma reconcile ang reincarnation sa concept nga imong gihatag.
    mao lagi pero unsaon mana nga naa man judgement nga coming diba? before ko mo proceed let me ask you motoo ka nga naay judgement coming?

  5. #165

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    tuo ko ani but dili mareincarnate ka sa sulod sa lawas sa ok-ok or grasshopper..lol..sa sulod gihapon sa lawas sa usa ka tao

  6. #166

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA
    mao lagi pero unsaon mana nga naa man judgement nga coming diba? before ko mo proceed let me ask you motoo ka nga naay judgement coming?

    yes motoo ko but not how the christian puts it.

  7. #167

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tattva

    yes motoo ko but not how the christian puts it.
    then how? cge kuno kay maminaw ko hehe

  8. #168

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by lalee
    tuo ko ani but dili mareincarnate ka sa sulod sa lawas sa ok-ok or grasshopper..lol..sa sulod gihapon sa lawas sa usa ka tao

    The appropriate term ana sis according sa mga scholars is Rebirth.

  9. #169

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA
    then how? cge kuno kay maminaw ko hehe

    no eternal hell and heaven. Judgement is based on the accumulated deeds and the state of mind at the time of death.

  10. #170

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tattva

    no eternal hell and heaven. Judgement is based on the accumulated deeds and the state of mind at the time of death.
    whethere you like it or not Heaven and Hell is real. Im not asking you to believe that but then again im telling you whether you like it or not Heaven and Hell is real.. hehe

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