Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

**geoseph** · 06-01-2008, 03:37 PM

Ang ginadili sa ila kay ang pagputol ra sa patilia ug sa bangas.

27 "'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard. [Leviticus 19]
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Ang pagka-Nazarite (o Nazirite) kay murag vow of separation or dedication, nga pwede maski kinsa. Kay miinom man ug bino si Jesus ug ang iyang mga apostoles, dili sila mga Nazarite (o Nazirite), at least, sugod sa pagtudlo ni Jesus.

1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of separation to the LORD as a Nazirite, 3 he must abstain from wine and other fermented drink and must not drink vinegar made from wine or from other fermented drink. He must not drink grape juice or eat grapes or raisins. 4 As long as he is a Nazirite, he must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, not even the seeds or skins.

5 " 'During the entire period of his vow of separation no razor may be used on his head ... [Numbers 6]

(Si Samson hinoon kay dedicated Nazarite sugod pangkapanganak ug sa tibook kinabuhi niya, mao nang kinahanglan dili gyud siya magpaputol ug buhok, maski kanusa.

17 So he told her everything. "No razor has ever been used on my head," he said, "because I have been a Nazirite set apart to God since birth. If my head were shaved, my strength would leave me, and I would become as weak as any other man." [Judges 16]

Bisig depression and hinungdan nganong nawala iyang kusog.)
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Murag magpaputol man pud diay sila ug buhok.

25 In all Israel there was not a man so highly praised for his handsome appearance as Absalom. From the top of his head to the sole of his foot there was no blemish in him. 26 Whenever he cut the hair of his head—he used to cut his hair from time to time when it became too heavy for him—he would weigh it, and its weight was two hundred shekels by the royal standard. [2 Samuel 14]

Wala klaruha unsa kataas o kamubo ang 'trim'. Pero, kinahanglan trim ang buhok sa mga pari nila.

20 " 'They [priests] must not shave their heads or let their hair grow long, but they are to keep the hair of their heads trimmed. [Ezekiel 44]

Kani, murag mas klaro nga mas mubo gyud ug buhok ang mga lalaki kaysa mga babaye.

14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. [1 Corinthians 11]
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Kay wala man ta kita niya. Pwede sigurong ibutang ang bana-bana sa tunga-tunga sa mobo ug taas. Kanang sigurong taas-taas para sa linaki, pero dili pud kutob anang murag binabaye na tanawon.

**nonoyantoine** · 06-02-2008, 01:54 AM

nice thread..hehehe cuz our faith depends on figures which we make as our medium of communication..

**rcruman** · 06-02-2008, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by SQUiDnine

naa sa Bibliya naghisgot sa hulagway neh Jesus? unsa nga teksto?

First of all Jesus Christ don't have long hair because its prohibited and He said it.
Then read these:

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Isaiah 53:2-12

Christ is the image of God and the image of GOd is Righteousness.
So thing of all God's Righteousness and thats the face of Christ.
But the problem is, do you know the God's Righteousness?

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians 4:4

Peace!

**rcruman** · 06-02-2008, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by baliguat

FyI , Cathecism is not driving you out from the Bible, it is also a way to Digest what is in the Bible. To imbestigate what is in the Bible (Sola Scriptura)Bible alone is not enough for the Faith. And a mystery of our Faith is beyond Human comprehention.
Peace!

digest what is in the bible?
How come bro? where in FACT that what's in the bible can't be found in the CATECHISM vice versa.

Where in the bible that it mentioned (search or use another book) because its not enough?
kontra man lagi sa bible imo gisulti, here read this:

16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Isaiah 34:16

Here's a simple comparison:
The bible said:

7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 5:7-9

pero in your catechism:
even a relics of your saint must be worshipped.
and by the way do you have any idea how many statue or graven image of saint do your church have? maybe you want help in counting of it, then last question Philippines has been under the influence of Catholics for more than 500 years (HOW MANY SAINTS that is a pure FILIPINO?) ay kog ingna walay tarong nga FILIPINO kay wala pay santos? o sige ato lang dawaton si PEDRO CALUNGSOD, pero usa ra nya kadaghan na nga miembro ninyo dinhi sa PILIPINAS?

Discussion ra ni ato.

PEace!

**baliguat** · 06-02-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by rcruman

pero in your catechism:
even a relics of your saint must be worshipped.
and by the way do you have any idea how many statue or graven image of saint do your church have? maybe you want help in counting of it, then last question Philippines has been under the influence of Catholics for more than 500 years (HOW MANY SAINTS that is a pure FILIPINO?) ay kog ingna walay tarong nga FILIPINO kay wala pay santos? o sige ato lang dawaton si PEDRO CALUNGSOD, pero usa ra nya kadaghan na nga miembro ninyo dinhi sa PILIPINAS?

Discussion ra ni ato.

PEace!

Nag sugo ba diay ang simbahan para simbahon ang Relic sa mga Saints? wa pa ko kadungog ana. Ug kinahanglan bah nga iphon tanan ang mga Saint? hehehe, sa Benedictine Saints lang almost 40,000 saint(Canonized) .. Gusto ka nga kung katoliko ka Mailado dayon ka? kay gusto ka man nga masantos dayon? I think you are not Glorifying God but your self(Self-seeking). Kay kinahanglan ba jud diay nga kung daghan membro daghan pud Santos?

**necrotic freak** · 06-02-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by rcruman

digest what is in the bible?
How come bro? where in FACT that what's in the bible can't be found in the CATECHISM vice versa.

Where in the bible that it mentioned (search or use another book) because its not enough?
kontra man lagi sa bible imo gisulti, here read this:

16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Isaiah 34:16

Here's a simple comparison:
The bible said:

7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Deuteronomy 5:7-9

pero in your catechism:
even a relics of your saint must be worshipped.
and by the way do you have any idea how many statue or graven image of saint do your church have? maybe you want help in counting of it, then last question Philippines has been under the influence of Catholics for more than 500 years (HOW MANY SAINTS that is a pure FILIPINO?) ay kog ingna walay tarong nga FILIPINO kay wala pay santos? o sige ato lang dawaton si PEDRO CALUNGSOD, pero usa ra nya kadaghan na nga miembro ninyo dinhi sa PILIPINAS?

Discussion ra ni ato.

PEace!

ang pagka santos ra jud diay imong basihan aron makaingon ka nga tarong ang usa ka pinoy? tawn pod... ug dili kinahanglan ma santos jud ka aron maka serbisyo sa ginoo..

**necrotic freak** · 06-02-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by geoseph