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    Mka goul huna2xun gahi mga ulo kasagaran pinoy..kuwang dakul..Kani sad mga anti Du30 sakyan sad labi na media. balik2xkon balita tagpila ka simana..atay nlang. Balik2xkon nila balita kana palang Dengvaxia, health center scam naa pa mga housing scam. Kana build3x ni duterte mao unta na ila cge monitor. ang mga gago kana man mga patay cge atngan nya balita noun..Ako lge bsta ma hutdan pasenxa nya wa nko future sa kalibutan hutdan lge na nko hilo mga animal sa media.

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    This issue gets boring really fast.

    Walay issue diha regarding sa 38 countries? hahaha That would have been a more rejuvenating story.

    Duterte: ‘I never ordered to arrest tambays’
    President dares critics to question order's legality at SC
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    Updated June 23, 2018, 9:28 AM
    By Argyll Cyrus Geducos

    President Duterte clarified that he never ordered the Philippine National Police (PNP) to arrest tambays or street idlers but only told the police to tell them to go home.

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    The President made the statement following controversies in his anti-tambay drive, including the puzzling death of an inmate, and the arrest of a shirtless man who just stepped out of his home, both in Quezon City.

    In a speech in Davao City, Duterte insisted twice that he never ordered the PNP to arrest idlers.

    “I never said arrest them, napakaga-gago (such idiots). Why don’t you just listen, i-rewind mo ‘yung sinabi ko (rewind what I said),” he said Friday evening.

    “Sinabi ko (I said) [tell them], ‘You go home. Do not congregate,'” he added.

    Duterte was referring to his speech in Malacaņang on June 13, 2018 where he first directive to the PNP to be strict against loiterers.

    “Ang mga criminal dapat diyan, ang mga durugista (Criminals, drug addicts), they are not supposed to be there [on the streets]. So my directive is ‘pag mag-istambay-istambay diyan sa, sabihin niyo, ‘Umuwi kayo. Kay ‘pag hindi kayo umuwi ihatid ko kayo doon sa opisina ni ano — Pasig [River] (So my directive is if you people idling on the streets, tell them to go home or you’ll bring them to my office),” Duterte said on June 13.

    Duterte’s anti-tambay directive has resulted to the arrest of at least 7,000 people in Metro Manila alone, according to the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO). Malacaņang said that this figure most likely listed mostly violators of ordinances.

    In his Friday evening speech, Duterte acknowledged that loitering is not a crime. However, he said that as the nation’s father, he can arrest loiterers if he thinks people need protection, especially women who can become victims of sexual abuse by loiterers.

    “‘Yung ginawa ng mga istambay diyan? Pagdaan ng mga babae (But loitering… what idlers would do, when women pass by them)…” Duterte said, recalling his time when he used to drive a taxi at night when he was still Davao City mayor.

    “Of course I can accost you. Sabihin ko (I’ll ask you), ‘What are you doing here?’ if you are a minor. Under the power of parens patriae, you are the father of the nation. You can always give an advice for people kagaya ng (like) minors,” he added.

    Parens patriae refers to the principle that political authority carries with it the responsibility for the protection of citizens.

    Duterte also dared the critics of his anti-tambay directive to question its legality at the Supreme Court (SC).

    “If you are unruly, talagang sabihin ko ‘uwi ka o hindi arestado ka (I will really tell them, go home or get arrested).’ That is a police power of the state. Let them contest it sa (at the) Supreme Court,” he said.

    “Bawalan niyo ako? Sige. Larga kayong lahat. Lahat ng gustong mamasyal. Lahat ng holdaper sige lumabas kayo. Bigyan ko kayo until the end of the year. Do it. Tingnan natin (You’ll forbid me? OK. Everyone who wants to go out, go out. Even holduppers, go ahead. I will give you until the end of the year. Do it. Let’s see what happens),” he added.

    Duterte then reiterated that he never ordered for loiterers to be arrested.

    “I never said ‘arrested.’ But if you are drinking diyan sa alley, ‘yung mga (there in the alleys in the) squatters area, if you are there making a sala (violation) out of the road there. Huhulihin talaga (You will really be arrested),” he said.

    “Para malaman na nitong mga u*** na constitutionalists na ito (So these fools of constitutionalists know) that loitering is not a crime. Of course it is not,” he added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    @firestarter

    Another fair nga balaod boss. Pero kuhaon nalang ni nako ang statement ni boss @bungot25

    "di ma priso ang tambay boss.. ma detain ra....pero ug imoha gyud ebase sa balaod, wala may maka detain sa taw if walay reason,
    or he is not committed a crime...if ilaha e detain, aw unconstitutional nana boss"
    Murag klaro man tingale kaayo na nga statement boss.. Murag dili gyud na ika lalis.

    Ang ako lang klarohon, dili "reason" ang maka detain sa tawo boss, it is the act of committing the crime.

    Ang problema man gud ana kay mo ingon ra nga tambay, which again is an oversimplication, pero ug basahon nimo Article, naa diay mga violations.

    Balika gud basa boss..

    Gi dakop kay naay violation sa local laws.

    I would even doubt that any action against this in the Supreme Court will prosper. This is another case of sensationalizing by the media. And people fall right for it.

    PNP chief clarifies: 'Tambay' arrests due to violation of local laws | ABS-CBN News

    MANILA - The Philippine National Police (PNP) on Wednesday clarified that bystanders are not arrested simply for loitering under the President's recent directive against the "tambay."

    PNP chief Director General Oscar Albayalde explained that loiterers are arrested due to violations of existing local laws.

    NCRPO: No operation vs. tambay, only operation vs. violators of ordinances | News | GMA News Online

    In an interview in Balitanghali, Eleazar said they are not doing anything beyond their ordinary procedures whenever they conduct police operations for maintenance of peace and order.

    "Unang-una, matagal na nating ginagawa ito, 'yung ating pag-aaresto ng mga violators ng city ordinances. Hindi naman nagbago 'yon. Pinaigti lang natin 'yon," he said.

    "Kaya nga mali 'yung sinasabi natin na this is operation against tambay. Never naman na sinabi natin 'yun. Ang sinasabi natin this is operation against violators of laws and city ordinances," he added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    di ma priso ang tambay boss.. ma detain ra....pero ug imoha gyud ebase sa balaod, wala may maka detain sa taw if walay reason,
    or he is not committed a crime...if ilaha e detain, aw unconstitutional nana boss.,
    Quote Originally Posted by digitalsuperman View Post
    imbetaron raman ka sa station boss for documentation labi na if naka violate ka sa ordinance. diin man ka kakitag diretcho ra dakop kay nagtambay? kanang walay violation sa ordinance ha.

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    sa ako hibawan pwede ka ma detain bisan wala ka naka commit ug crime. one example is if naka commit kag violation sa ordinance sa LGU. but it doesnt mean naka commit kag crime. hinuon depende na sa naka stipulate sa ordinance. kasagaran detain ra within 24 hours.
    Ma detain man gani ang mag jaywalking sa colon..

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestarter View Post
    Ma detain man gani ang mag jaywalking sa colon..
    kanang kaoshiung bus naka parking? hardly a detention.

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    katong mga gipang ejk nga tambay klaro kaayo daghan to sila'g violations, hopefully ang cebu nga oplan tambay kay ipang ejk pod nila ang mga badlongon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    wala ka naka bantay ni presRod boss since day one, mao gyud ni iyang style. first, mag implement cya ug law nya isug kaayo cya and after pila ka weeks or days, iya na usbon iyang storya.

    mao nay style sa mga karaan na bugoy, libugon ang kontra ba. coz karon man gud, whatever he says, tanan tao naay opinion against it, mao nang usbon na iya permi. BUT. ang law na iyang g-implement is naa ra gihapon. nahan na cya palaguton ang media ug mga yellows
    Wa man siyay makuha siguro if magpalagot siya sa media ug yellows. Iyang pangan raman ang maguba.

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    sayuna ra lagi maghisgot ug ejk.

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    chuya na sa bagong balaod gd, pwede ma detain ang tambay. madakpan ba kaha ang tambay sa amoa dapit sa talisay murag ubay2 raba to. mahibung nlng ta nga tambay ra prmi pro nkapalit na og KTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    dili man boss. coz kay ang mga politician guba naman na ilang pangalan daan.
    Mao nang tiwasan nalang ug guba instead nga ayohon

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