What is the basis of your salvation?

[rcruman]

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God could chasten His erring children with physical death but this is not unto condemnation:
1Co 11:30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.
If self judgment were exercised, these physical disciplinary judgments [that included physical death] would not have arisen:
1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.
But we can rest and be assured that these judgments are not punitive and penal. All these have been exhausted in the death of Christ. These judgments are not from God to a criminal but from a Father to an erring son:
32 But when we [saved in Christ] are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

Bro your personal statement above is not biblical, because you've said:
"God could chasten His erring children with physical death but this is not unto condemnation:"
then supported it with 1 Corinthians 11:30-31, just read the later part of 31 it says:
"that we may not be condemned with the world."
it clearly says that Christians are condemned but not together with the world because the world will be condemned by the Christians who will be included as mentioned in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

and these Christians that died in Christ and the alive that serve God shall judge the world and even the angels.
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
1 Corinthians 6:2-4
and these saints are not venerated by the Catholics, the saints here are Christians being washed by Baptism and serve Christ with Good works until the end of their lives and until the coming of Christ.

God judged early to Christians and Christ and Apostle Paul teach to judge or condemn inside the Church and cast them away outside the Church.

11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1 Corinthians 5:11-13

Peace!

[rcruman]

This can be beautifully illustrated in God’s promise to David about his son Solomon [who was a type of Christ]. Solomon however, in God’s mercy was not chastened with physical death:
2Sa 7:12 "When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom.
13 "He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.
14 "I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men.
15 "But My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you.

with your personal statement above thus it mean that God's Promise towards Solomon stays forever?
Did you know that SOlomon served or followed other god because of his wife?
have you encountered this verse written by King David to his son SOlomon?:

9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
1 Chronicles 28:9

still you've used the early part of God's Promise to Solomon but failed to post here the later part of SOlomon just to show that Salvation is Forever no matter what.

Bro, Solomon served other God in his later life.

PEace!

[rcruman]

I Agree with you bro, usahay sakto ni rcruman sakto pero mawa man pod..

What is your basis that "usahay sakto ko" og "pero mawa man pod"?
Ngano nakaingon ka nga "usahay sakto ko"?
Ngano nakaingon ka nga "pero mawa man pod"?
Kung sakto ba ko imo gibasihan kay bible?
Og kung "mawa" ko imo pud ba gibasiha bible or imo kaugalingong pagsabot?
Kung mawa ko bro nga gikan sa bible, would you care to give me the right direction?
Its just simple bro kung muingon ka nga "mawa" ko di imo isulti ang sakto nga gikan sa Biblia.

Peace!

[tackielarla]

OT: Bro rc, I suggest you stop using the word "Peace!" everytime you end your posts. Coz it's sooo hypocritical of you to mention that word when you obviously do not mean it, as shown in the majority of your posts.

[circles122345]

OT: Bro rc, I suggest you stop using the word "Peace!" everytime you end your posts. Coz it's sooo hypocritical of you to mention that word when you obviously do not mean it, as shown in the majority of your posts.

peace = pistot na..something like that bro..

[Mr.Ho_chia]

OT: Bro rc, I suggest you stop using the word "Peace!" everytime you end your posts. Coz it's sooo hypocritical of you to mention that word when you obviously do not mean it, as shown in the majority of your posts.

Amen.

[rcruman]

OT: Bro rc, I suggest you stop using the word "Peace!" everytime you end your posts. Coz it's sooo hypocritical of you to mention that word when you obviously do not mean it, as shown in the majority of your posts.

how did you know that I didn't mean it?
You didn't know me personally and you didn't see my heart.

Peace!

[rcruman]

Amen.

angay amenan kay ang pulong sa Ginoo dili ang Critics.

Peace1

[Mr.Ho_chia]

angay amenan kay ang pulong sa Ginoo dili ang Critics.

Peace1

asa na nga verse sa Bible? o imo ni mga pamolong napud nga gi-inject, arun tuohan ka?

[dartzed]

OT: dumot mana inyo oi bisan asa nman lang mu mgkasumpaki..

hehehe