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    NIndot sad ning gihisgotan diri dah. Gold2x. May untag tinood tong giingon sa mananagna nga naay Gold nga naa sa yuta sa akong Mother-in-law.
    @Ts, possible ba nga gamiton sa mga Japon ang bagakay as markings kung diin nila gilubong ang Gold? Kay pong pa sa mga katiguwangan didto sa ilang lugar nga playground kono to sa mga hapon ilahang yuta nya naay nagingon nga didto pug kono nila gilubong ang gold.

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    to nesjo:
    "What hard and solid evidence do I have to justify believing that WWII treasure is buried on my property?" The definition of hard and solid evidence being either in the form of locating of; tunnels which were dug by the Japanese Imperial Army, Japanese treasure markers on your property, or, something that you can physically hold in your hands (for example; gold or silver bars, jewels, etc.). Now this is definitely hard and solid evidence.only be going on the assumption that "if you found those gold bars - there could very well be MORE buried somewhere near-by". Maybe we can help you locate it.
    Now, we will list a few questions which you need to ask yourself to determine what, if anything, may be buried on your property.
    Concerning MAJOR SITES;

    1. Was there a major Japanese army encampment on your property during the war? If not, how far away was it?
    2. Where was the closest POW camp?
    3. Are there any natural caves or man made tunnels on your property? If so, have you physically located them?
    4. If your answer to the first three questions was favorable, than; Have you found any Japanese markers on your property? If so, what do they look like?

    Concerning MINOR SITES;

    1. Are there any natural caves or man made tunnels on your property? If so, have you physically located them?
    2. If your answer to the above questions were favorable, than; Have you found any Japanese markers on your property? If so, what do they look like?
    3. Have you or anyone else recovered any treasure from your property? If so, what was found?

    If you cannot answer any of the above questions favorably, than, chances are highly likely that there is nothing buried on your property. For those of you with favorable answers to the above questions, please proceed and read the information below as it may also be of interest to you.

    Assuming that your above answers are favorable, what would then be your next logical step to prove that something may be buried on your property?

    Obviously what is needed now is to VERIFY that there may be something buried on your property. There are several tests which could be preformed, two of which we shall list here. These two tests should be the following;

    1) Resistivity ground testing.

    2) Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) scanning.

    3) Spot Drilling.

    The Resistivity test will prove two things;

    1. Whether there is a MASS of conductive material buried on your site (Gold is very conductive).
    2. Whether there are any VOIDS underground (whether they are 'natural' caves, or, 'man-made underground tunnels').

    NOTE: Resistivity ground testing will NOT tell you the DEPTH of the objects buried.
    GPR tests will prove the following;

    1. Prove whether there are any VOIDS underground (whether there are 'natural' caves, or, 'man-made underground tunnels').
    2. Prove whether the ground has been disturbed (previous digging operations).
    3. Prove whether there are any unordinary OBJECTS buried below.
    4. Provide the actual DEPTH from details of the above three test results.

    NOTE: GPR CANNOT identify whether the objects buried below are; GOLD, SILVER, CONCRETE, etc. It will only verify that the objects are there.

    2nd NOTE: GPR PENETRATION DEPTH depends on the following;

    o Type of GPR being used.
    o Soil type and condition.
    o Frequency of GPR Transducer. (A HIGH frequency transducer has LESS ground penetration but HIGHER resolution. A LOW frequency transducer has MORE ground penetration but LOWER resolution).

    Spot Drilling is another way to pinpoint whether there's buried treasure on your property. A portable drill and water are used for these operations. If you're lucky enough to drill directly over the buried object the gold shavings will come up to the surface with the water flow and that's the sure indication that you've hit the jackpot. There are several companies there in the Philippines that offer these types of drilling services (usually the mining-type companies). They usually charge on a per foot drilling depth basis.

    So, the point here is that a minimum of the above two test need to be performed first, before you can quite confidently state the fact that there may be WWII treasure buried on your property. Also, these tests must be performed before you can semi-accurately provide an estimate on;

    * Estimated total project finance amount required for the success of your project.
    * Estimated treasure recovery time frame.

    We hope this information has helped those land owners/treasure hunters whom are interested in this subject.Thank you for taking the time to read this thread and good luck with your ventures...

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    if you need help in translating the markers just let me know, maybe i can help, just make sure that before you remove the marker, ensure you took a picture of the marker, note to where it was pointing in relation to land marks in the area and so on and so forth...

  3. #143

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    Quote Originally Posted by topeh View Post
    kung ikaw ang Emeperror sa Japan makakuha mo usa ka barko nga mga treasures dili kaha nimo ipaderetso ug hipos sa Japan imo gyud ibilin sa Philippines tanan? Actually, wala pa maka-ari ang mga Amerikano "I Shall Return ni McArthur". gipanghipos na tanan treasures sa Japan. gibinlan na lang ang mga soldiers ug pang consumo. that's why dato kaau ang Japan bisag pildi sila sa gubat.

    nganong wala man ni sikat ang Yamashita's treasure ug treasure hunting sa Philippines after the war? fresh pa unta kaau ang knowledge sa mga eyewitness. 1950's wala pud, 1960's wala gihapon, why is it only in the 1970's at the peak of Marcos regime? Si Marcos ray nag claim nga naay Yamashita's teasures all over the country unya mao sad iya ingun nga daghan siya nakit-an maong dato kaau siya. Actually sa corruption ug ill-gotten wealth ra diay gikan. sa pag deposit ni Marcos sa banks sa lain country maglisud man siya ug prove sa iyang Billions or Trillions of Dollars. iyang gi-claim nga nakit-an niya ang Yamashita's treasures. gi porma sad niya ug golden buddha, gold bars ang mga treasures nga kinawat niya sa atong country. Viola! tu-a na nakadeposit na iyang pangalan ang mga kinurakot nga mga gold sa Phillippines.

    Imelda Marcos talked about their ill-gotten wealth watch this video. Marcos treasure - YouTube
    one of the reasons why it was not known to many after the war was that, In most cases, POW labor was used to dig the intricate tunneling systems. In all cases, upon completion of securing the gold in the pits - the POW's were all executed and buried along with the treasures.

    In some rare cases, Japanese officers even had their own soldiers killed and buried along with the treasure to protect their secret locations.

    The tales of vast amounts of gold and ancient treasures stolen by the Japanese as part of Operation Golden Lily and later hidden throughout Japan and buried in the Philippines became known to the Allied forces through a vast and complex network of spies. Two men in particular, Severino Garcia Santa Romana (known as Santy in intelligence circles) and General Edward Lansdale were charged with finding out the exact locations of the treasure tunnels throughout the Philippines. In 1945, after the surrender of General Yamashita, Santa Romana took his chauffeur, a one Major Kojima Kashii, into custody. Kashii was tortured, and he eventually revealed the locations of some of these treasure sites. In November of 1945, Santy and Lansdale led General Douglas Macarthur, chief commander of the U.S. forces in the Pacific during World War II, straight to the treasure sites.

    In other words those people who knew of the secrets of the buried loot was either killed or brutally tortured to death until they would reveal the secret.

    with regards to the emperor of japan:

    During WWII the Japanese Imperial Army systematically looted all the conquered Asian countries of their national treasures (This included; gold, silver, precious stones/gems, golden statues, etc.). During the earlier part of the war, WWII looted treasures were being shipped back to Japan for badly needed war finances. However, when American patrolling naval vessels made the shipping of these looted treasures to Japan much too risky to continue with due to almost certain loss, another plan was devised.

    Investigative reports show that a great bulk of World War II treasures reached the Philippines from the latter part of 1943 through October, 1944, at that period when Field Marshall Count Terauchi was in-charge of the Japanese Imperial Forces in the Southeast area of the Pacific. He had ordered Admiral Masaharu (then over-all military commander of the Philippines before Yamashita) and several other Admirals and Generals (including Yamashita) that all war booties taken from their respective occupied territories comprising Java, Sumatra, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, and Northern India be collected and thereafter transferred to the Philippines.Japan had always considered the Philippine Islands to be a very important strategic location for military bases in Southeast Asia.

    Unknown to the rest of the world, the Japanese Imperial Forces had a major plan for post war sovereign and the Philippine Archipelago was included in this elaborate scheme.

    Once the shipping lanes became too dangerous due to American Naval vessels, almost all of the loot that the Japanese had accumulated thereafterwards was being channeled to the Philippines and buried.

    Their ultimate plan was, that when the war was over they were going to withdraw forces from all the other Asian countries but try to maintain their colonial rule over the Philippine islands. Under the banner of "Asia for Asians" they prescribed some reforms in the guise of nationalism. In hopes to win over the Philippine people, in 1943, the Japanese went as far as setting up a 'Philippine Republic', and installing a puppet government with the Judge Jose' Laurel as president.

    By winning over the hearts of the Philippine people and later even granting them independence, the Japanese Forces hoped that they would be then regarded as 'hero's' by them. This would also allow them to put military bases there as a pretext of 'protection for the Philippine people'. In this way, they could remain in the Philippines for as long as they liked and take their time to re-excavate the stolen WWII loot at their leisure. It was a good plan but in the end it didn't work out - the Americans invaded the Philippines in October 1944.

    However, before this U.S. invasion, the Japanese Imperial Forces were busy hiding and securing its stolen WW II loot. Elaborate tunnels were dug, some down to depths of a few hundred feet, to the final 'storage chambers'. Many of these tunnels were dug down to just below the water table during dry season, which would also be a deterrent to would-be future salvors.

    Most, if not all of these tunnels, were booby-trapped and rigged with 1,000 and 2,000 pound WWII bombs and poisonous gas. This trick would also help keep the buried loot from falling into enemy hands. Detailed maps of the sites were drawn up on rectangular rice paper - all written in special treasure codes and the 2,000-year-old Japanese script known as 'Kungi'.

    I hope this will enlighten your view as to what the emperor of Japan did and why knowledge of the loot was not known to many after the war

    In all there were 172 'documented' Philippine burial sites (138 land and 34 water sites) left by the Japanese Imperial Forces. This is not to even mention the numerous 'private' burials of WWII loot by greedy officers and renegade soldiers.

    There was still much treasure remaining to be buried when the U.S. abruptly invaded the islands. Japanese Forces took all of this with them up into the mountains in the northern Philippines and other
    areas during their retreat, where it was all buried at many different locations.

    It is estimated that the total worth of this war loot ranged up to 3 billion 1940's dollars - the equivalent of over $100 billion today. According to various post war estimates, the amount of gold bullion alone was 4,000 to 6,000 tons. Ex-president Ferdinand Marcos himself managed to recover several sites and that is how he became so wealthy.
    Sources:

    The above information was collected from several books and other sources (including but not limited to) ;
    Asian Loot (Charles C. McDougald)
    The Gold of the Sun (Robert Curtis)
    The Marcos Dynasty (Sterling Seagrave)
    The Marcos Legacy Revisited: Raiders of the Lost Gold (Erick San Juan)
    The World Atlas of Treasure (Derek Wilson)
    The Yamamoto Dynasty (Sterling Seagrave)
    Tracing Marcos' Gold - The True Story of the Yamashita's Treasure (D. Ahl Umali)
    Plus... various newspaper articles and personal interviews.

  4. #144

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    Quote Originally Posted by cebu_doki View Post
    deep sea in dipolog, town of katipunan. there is a story a japanese submarine sank loaded with gold. story came out because prisoners loaded the items but most of them where shot and few escape before the sub sunk.
    can you provide which town and baranggay in dipolog sir?

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    It seems that WWII treasure stories have been floating all over the Philippines for the past 20 years or so. And, that is exactly what 99% of them are, stories just like it says. Almost everyone and his brother claims to have treasure buried on his/her land.

    The Japanese Imperial Army officially occupied the Philippines from May 1942 through to their surrender in mid 1945. During this time, these soldiers commandeered hundreds (probably even "thousands") of homes, buildings and properties from Filipinos. After all, they needed somewhere to operate from. They certainly weren't going to run military operations from the local street corner were they?

    Our point is this; Just because the Japanese Imperial Army occupied your property, house or land during the war, this does not warrant there to being treasure buried on your property. Just because grandma (or, grandpa) said they saw a Japanese Imperial Army soldier digging a ditch during the war doesn't mean anything. Maybe he preparing a fox hole for the expected clash with American soldiers. Who knows. Just because a Japanese guy took a piss on your rice paddy in 1975 (or whenever), doesn't warrant that he was looking for long-ago buried treasure. This is not what we call solid evidence.

    After over 20 years of research and direct involvement concerning World War II treasure buried throughout the Philippine Islands by the Japanese Imperial Army during WWII, there are many facts that we have come to know. A few of which we will state here;

    MAJOR SITES : Fact Number One:
    There were 172 "documented" WWII sites buried throughout the Philippine Islands between 1943 and 1945 (34 of these were "sea" sites). The remaining 138 land burials were top secret and under direct control of the highest authority of the Japanese Imperial Army at that time. They were major deposits consisting of many tons of gold (sometimes also buried was; silver, jewelry, even golden Buddha's). These sites took anywhere from several months to a year or more to complete. Many of these sites were buried at (or very near) POW camps using POW labor. Some were buried on Japanese Army encampments (located near to POW camps). Either way, you will notice the common link between the two - that link being - POW. Burial depth was anywhere from 100 to 350 feet deep inside a complex tunneling system. Extremely detailed maps were made of all of these sites. These maps were all written in special "codes" which would ultimately be of no use to an untrained person who happened upon one of these maps. Not that you could possible happen upon one of them anyway as these maps have long been destroyed so there is no chance of the average person to happen along and find one.

    MINOR SITES : Fact Number Two:
    There were numerous (possibly hundreds) of additional "undocumented" minor WWII treasure sites also buried throughout the Philippines. This has been proven as there has been several 'finds' throughout the Philippines since the end of the war. Usually made by local Filipino treasure hunters. One on the most famous and well known 'find' was made by Roger Roxas and his group in December 1970. Most of these minor treasure burials occurred between late 1944 through to the end of the war in mid 1945. These small deposits were placed during retreat to the mountains of renegade officers and soldiers. These sites were usually of relatively small size a few gold bars. Of course, renegade officers' sites could have been much larger deposits (few tons of gold or more. ..). One large renegade site was discovered to have 1,800 gold bars (each weighing 6.2kg or just over 13 pounds). Roxas' group recovered numerous gold bars and a one-ton Golden Buddha. Nevertheless, these sites were usually buried rather quickly as these soldiers were on the run. Question: "Where would you bury your gold bars if you were being chased by an army of American soldiers?" Answer: "Anywhere - and as quickly as possible". With no time on their hands, maps were usually not made and if one was made it was usually very crude and not showing much detail.

  6. #146

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    If you found treasure in your local backyard, chances are that theres more somewhere, and if you dispose of them without plan and caution, you might end up like rogelio roxas or the many people nga na ilad dha. . i suggest that you re smelt the gold or slice it in smaller sizes that can not be traced that it is in fact related to buried treasure and sell it piece by piece in the local pawn shop for finances for licensing and contacting buyers. be careful in selling gold in bulk or in gold bullion.

    ONE VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE HERE FOR ALL POTENTIAL GOLD BUYERS/SELLERS TO REMEMBER IS;
    ONLY DO GOLD TRANSACTIONS WITHIN THE SAFETY OF A MAJOR BANK! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH TO ALL OF YOU POTENTIAL GOLD BUYERS/SELLERS OUT THERE... Believe me.. I learned the HARD WAY. There's nothing like looking down the barrel of a .38 revolver pointed in your face to make you realize what a FOOL YOU HAD BEEN! Don't trust ANY Filippino, American, or whoever tries to ask you to BRING MONEY OUT OF THE BANK! I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SETTING YOU UP TO BE ROBBED! Don't be as STUPID as I was! Trust NO One! NO BANK - NO TRANSACTION! Its as SIMPLE AS THAT! PERIOD!! =) happy selling/buying-'excerpt from a Gold buyer'

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    hmm, just want to share something, my lola told me nga amo relative somewhere in Carcar man siguro to found out nga naa treasure sa ilang balay, well, boxra cia full of japanese like gamit to pray and some gold in it, so ila gihimo kay gipa tan.aw jud ila ilang lugar og hunters, since then, something weird happened, nag anam2 sila ug kamatay, most of the people who are in the house nga nag puyo namatay tanan,

  8. #148

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    hurot na cguro na oi

  9. #149

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    Quote Originally Posted by divine68 View Post
    can you provide which town and baranggay in dipolog sir?
    its not in dipolog, katipunan is a town

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    na intriga ko ani dah. Example if makakita kog gold, say, 1Ton, unsaon na nako pagbaligya? kisa mopalit sad?

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