Did the Great Flood during the time of Noah really happen?

[Sinyalan]

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uncivilized...asa imo source bro.

mayan civilization ring any bells

OT: respect sad sa laing culture bro...example, atong history kundili ka mu basa kang renato constantino atong mga lokal heros are refferd as barbarians...salamat kay constantino.

kung kabahin pa ni sa flood...no such record exist except katonng climate shifts which involved the extinction of the dinosaurs. the flood happenned in a specific place lang...Source? Kinsa man karon ang naka-discover nila? di ba mga spaniards.. the same people that indoctrinate us that there was great flood and yet they found these people from other continents... not to mention Philippines. Connections? Di ba great flood supposed to tell us that it happened worldwide? Now where did these people came from anyway? Mushrooms? I have respect other cultures brod... that's why I live here in Hong Kong. My point was that ther "EARLY" times of spreading Christianity seemed direct to call other culture uncivilized because they have other means of transportation... spreading the word of God for the purpose of colonizing. Flood never did happen to other continents... it's just pure made up story... a parable.

Bai nangutana kag physical evidence ani? to see is to believed?
Sauna ra ni nahitabo, nya nisaad na ang Ginoo nga dili na niya lunopon pag usab ang kalibotan og katawhan.
It happened in the time of NOAH.
Lastly, tuo ka bible bay Sinyalan?
YES... naa kai physical evidence? the fact that scientists are also trying to link their discoveries up that mountain but most of their findings are theories - if you want scientific answers. Okay, sa ato pa, ang nahitabo sa Indonesia was a break of his promise? Ug uban pang areas nga gilunop? Frankly speaking brod, The great flood wasn't true at all. As for the Bible, yes, I believe some but not all.

ihatag kuno ang verse sa biblia nga nihisgut nga dili tibuok kalibutan ang lunop?
Abir, ihatag kuno ang verse sa biblia ug unsang nasud nga apil sa lunop? The "world" means generalizing speculations it doesn't mean nga each and every continent suffered the same fate as others during sa taym ni noah. Ka very selective ra gud sa Biblia... do you ever guys think that it only happened in mid-east? It only come to perspective when kaning mga langyaw spoke of biblical unification well in fact the bible itself has more loopholes than a mata sa pinya.

[tulisan666]

@Sinyalan
your basing "civilized" in terms of cristianity bro...

it doesnt mean na walay transpo uncivilized na or worshiped the elements uncivilized na or nakapuyo na langub or kahoy uncivilized na...the fact that they had their own religion, way of goverment, traditions, culture, and belief...all important elements sa civilization. NOTE: the mayans did discover 0(zero)...wala na sa greek mathematics.

do you accept na tawagon atong fore fathers uncivilized i beg to differ, pareho ra pod. we had our own religion, way of living, may cultura na gani...what the spaniards did was to share their culture, apil na religion.

about the flood, im just basing it with facts that it did happen in a particular region, not the entire world...there was a flood, put in to context na nag overflow raw ang euphrates river, but it did not happen worldwide...

It only come to perspective when kaning mga langyaw spoke of biblical unification well in fact the bible itself has more loopholes than a mata sa pinya.-Sinlayan

yeps, and that using your brain...my point exactly.

[rcruman]

Let us compose our topic again.
What are the proof that it only happens to the place of Noah and not the entire earth?

Peace!

[tulisan666]

they cant prove that it happened world wide...but they did put into account that the euphates river did overflow in the lifetime of Noah...

plus have you heard about the epic of gilgamesh, its Akkadian, it was older or the same age as the bible yet similar stories such as the flood, creation...the bible...

[rcruman]

Ani ni bai, kung ang baha didto ra sa lugar ni Noah nya ingon sa biblia:
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
Genesis 7:19-20.

So lisura paghunahuna nato ani nga ang mga mountain sa ila lugar kay natabuan ay ko ingna gikural ang lugar nila noah nga dili mutapon og muabot ang tubig sa laing lugar. Murag naay barrier, this is a proven fact that water finds its level, it will not happen that in a certain place all mountain has been drowned then in a certain place not.

Hope did you get the point, and i want to hear your reaction.
Peace!

[pyrogemini]

actually mga bro, there is scientific evidence that the great flood occured and that NOAH's ark existed. I was able to watch a documentary of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. They found the fossilized ark! the only thing they don't know is that how it happened. One documentary explained it. since it was raining for forty days and nights, and darkness covered the earth, some believed it was caused by another catastrophic event... An asteroid hit somewhere between NORTH and SOUTH American continent. And this theory was proven based on the observation of the atmosphere of JUPITER when it was hit by a comet years ago. that any celestal body e.g. comet, asteroid can cause powerful storm semilar to the 40 days rain and darkness.

[rcruman]

Water will find or search its level, so kung naglunop ra didto ila noah lisud hunahunaon nga ang tubig naay barrier nga kutob ra siya didto sa lugar nila noah.
Natabunan ang bukid so ang sea level o water level ana taas gyud.

Peace!

[Sinyalan]

actually mga bro, there is scientific evidence that the great flood occured and that NOAH's ark existed. I was able to watch a documentary of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. They found the fossilized ark! the only thing they don't know is that how it happened. One documentary explained it. since it was raining for forty days and nights, and darkness covered the earth, some believed it was caused by another catastrophic event... An asteroid hit somewhere between NORTH and SOUTH American continent. And this theory was proven based on the observation of the atmosphere of JUPITER when it was hit by a comet years ago. that any celestal body e.g. comet, asteroid can cause powerful storm semilar to the 40 days rain and darkness.

THEORIES brod, THEORIES. Like all the discvories of the ancient man... they put on emphasis basing on theroies. They have carbon dating but no one has ever said that - as in BIG NEWS! that we found NOAH's Ark... daghan unta nga motoo - or well in due, tanang christians would believe to it. Any scientific discoveries are not 100% true mao nga there are hundreds of critics that would agree that it is true. If I can only build a time machine, this can be all clear... heheheh.

[Sinyalan]

it doesnt mean na walay transpo uncivilized na or worshiped the elements uncivilized na or nakapuyo na langub or kahoy uncivilized na...the fact that they had their own religion, way of goverment, traditions, culture, and belief...all important elements sa civilization. NOTE: the mayans did discover 0(zero)...wala na sa greek mathematics.

...about the flood, im just basing it with facts that it did happen in a particular region, not the entire world...there was a flood, put in to context na nag overflow raw ang euphrates river, but it did not happen worldwide...
True nga naay transpo ang mga mayans atong panahona BUT my point was crusaders kunohay traveled continents to continents preaching God's word and when they met these people... who knows what their standards are because to them uncivilized. Correct ka brod nga naay discoveries ang mayans nga wala sa uban but when did we know? 20th century scientific findings? Daghan na ang technology nga gigamit... of course we can say they are not civilized but mga langyaw nga technology somehow twisted their beliefs that they are wrong and they are correct. Uncivilized became a tademark to these people.

do you accept na tawagon atong fore fathers uncivilized i beg to differ, pareho ra pod. we had our own religion, way of living, may cultura na gani...what the spaniards did was to share their culture, apil na religion.
op kors I will be mad but huna-hunaa lang pud, our great10x grandfathers wears loincloth... bahag! Unya ang mga langyaw nga nagspread of christianity wears steel armor, guns, canons, and new navigation know-how. Do we have that before? NOPE! Ang real point nako brod that the great flood never happened - no matter what the bible says because we as a people have different beliefs before christianity sat foot in our land.

[pyrogemini]

THEORIES brod, THEORIES. Like all the discvories of the ancient man... they put on emphasis basing on theroies. They have carbon dating but no one has ever said that - as in BIG NEWS! that we found NOAH's Ark... daghan unta nga motoo - or well in due, tanang christians would believe to it. Any scientific discoveries are not 100% true mao nga there are hundreds of critics that would agree that it is true. If I can only build a time machine, this can be all clear... heheheh.

hehehe pero abi nimo bro, mas nitoo pa diay si hitler nimo nga naay noh's arc bro. kay atong panahon niya iya man unta to kuhaon just like the rest of the biblical relics. like the arc of the covenant. it is actually located (the noah's ark) in turkey, and our muslim brother's banned further expedition because they claim the place as holy. search lang sa internet for more details.