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    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!


    Quote Originally Posted by hala tindak jud
    An interesting idea...but why, please spread(ur legs) a bit. It is my pleasure if you support your answer wiht a book, so that i can read it by myself. Please do include the author of it. And still hangin for the big WHY!
    Maybe this article can help shed some light on the matter: http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/pillars_marx.htm .

  2. #142

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Peter Kreeft...ok. a good view from a different person who sees Marx as evil, as what his words speaks unto me.

    Ok, added to my lists...thanks!

    But to my personal side, I don't think Kreeft included about more on economics, he mentioned tho economy but only stated as only a support of his sentence. I don't think that Kreeft is against so much about Communism, he is only against the person(Marx)

    He only classified Marx as an aethiest, but rather not telling the whole picture of the context of Communism.

    After all, he also forget to mention the whole culture of Marx, which should be tackled more. We know that a person is driven by his culture, then if a culture he has had a good culture, it reflects by the way he talk, blah...blah...blah.

    On Marx time, they had a different way, about conflicts between religion, between state, among themeselves, if we are only looking on some personal data about a person and judge him according to what he did, then we are still subjective to it.

    But i thanked you for being helpful..thanks!

  3. #143

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Communism is for the insane people... hahaha.

  4. #144

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    patagad!

  5. #145

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    @hala tindak - since your are an eloquent & forceful preacher of socialism & communism; why not make you're own theories/science & write it in a book. In that way you can make money & we can read your views or your science "why communism failed." or any suitable title. ohh..heres a kick ass title - "Communism needs to Thrive in Phil. Society."

  6. #146

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by hala tindak jud
    Quote Originally Posted by agoroy
    "common ownership of wealth and goods" a.k.a EQUALITY

    is one of the communist/socialist ideals that somehow majority of the masses won't accept were the major reasons why communism failed.
    Then, you mentioned here EQUALITY, masses, ideals.

    Then are you concluding that the masses has a wealth that those elite has? Make yourself clear who are afraid to share their wealth. If you are asking a farmer to share his piece of land, if he has, naturally he won't give it to somebody, even in the name of Communism, but that wont happen to a Commie state, again for the nth time, there is no classes can be classified on that state, anybody can become whatwever he want, if he want to become someone, as long as it wont bring chaos and step on someone's throat.

    If you are talking here the elite as what our government are composed of, then they are the one who are afraid of it. If you were afraid about sharing your wealth, then you must be afraid if you had an extra amount of it. If in case you have. We are not talking here a piece of land, if you have a hectares of it. then be much afraid, then if you are willing to share it to others in order to progress then it will be surely welcome.

    Ang concept man gud nato sa sharing of land is to monopolize it, kung kinsa ang nagleader ani nga state. mao na. But in a state wherein nagbuild pa og Socialism, we must share it sa wala para makasustener ta sa atong bakwaRD nga ekonomya. Para mapalambo og mamahimong usa ka industriyalisadong nasud.

    I doubt mahitabo ni dayob dayon, kay it is too impossible kung ang tanang tao dili pa aware nga naa diay class war.

    i don't think the so called farmer will share their lands. unsaon nila pag share kung wala silay land? do i have to blame myself kung wala silay land? and if they have, they won't share it with someone where someone has 200 square meters and he has 10 hectares. by nature humans are bit tricky so you won't expect majority will just say "cge here's my 2 hectares, feed my family afterwards"

    okey for argument sakes everyone is part of the commune system. the state will provide every individual with enough food, adequate housing system, electricity and the basic necessities of life. do you think the community will progress materially, mentally and spiritually when majority of the people are unmovitivated? why i have to work hard when the state provides me with what i need? the material things that we are enjoying right now are based on money mindedness of a corporation. computers wont be available to us if they won't make money.

    there are few good ones in communist ideals, but most of it were detrimental to mental and spiritual well-being of an individual.


    ... as humans, commies leader are plagued with disease called corruption too. corruption is not a problem by any ideals -- it's a failure of human individuals to control his greed and other animal instincts. at least now we have a freedom to criticized our president .. do you think the same freedom are available to us when we're communist state? i don't think so.

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    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    why communism failed? is this the title of your term paper? it seems that your trying to pick our brains. do you really believe in communism or just want to talk (or argue) about it?

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    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by cerebus
    why communism failed? is this the title of your term paper? it seems that your trying to pick our brains. do you really believe in communism or just want to talk (or argue) about it?
    I told u guys that tindak guy might as well ignore him.

  9. #149

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    bai agoroy,

    dont drag the topic palayo. just do an argument regarding on what you are believing in.

    I doubt that you have a full grasp of Communism as what antoy hilom has.
    Though you think so brightly but it seemed that it is too far to pick an argument.

    Commies leaders are plagued with corruption? How could it be? but it was not quite worth of answering, just stay on topic about why Communism Failed...kay para nako, Communism hasn't tried. Mao na interesting sa uban nga perspective kay na failure na, samtang wala pa gani nasulayi. Mura diay og whistle bomb, nga nibuto una, usa ming whistle ba.

    And cerebus, mind your own business, if your business is minding somebody's business, then good luck.
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    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by rumsfield
    Quote Originally Posted by cerebus
    why communism failed? is this the title of your term paper? it seems that your trying to pick our brains. do you really believe in communism or just want to talk (or argue) about it?
    I told u guys that tindak guy might as well ignore him.
    another one bites the dustah!

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