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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    I just looked up Mitnick in Wikipedia. I know some self-proclaimed "733t h4ck3r5" out there probably glorify and worship this guy, but in the final analysis? He's just a crook, and nothing but a crook. The only difference between Mitnick and a petty thief? The thief uses a lockpick, while Mitnick uses a keyboard...but in the end, they're both made of the same stuff--they're both thieves.

    -RODION
    Maybe for you Kevin is a crook, but for me he his a hero in computer revolution. Besides he has already a IT security company.Check this out http://www.kevinmitnick.com/

    P.S. If you do not mind, please try to hack his sitehehehe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdronza View Post
    Maybe for you Kevin is a crook, but for me he his a hero in computer revolution. Besides he has already a IT security company.Check this out http://www.kevinmitnick.com/
    Point taken. However, a "reformed" crook will always be a former crook, any way you see it. Wozniak and Steve Jobs were also former crooks--they sold Blue Boxes ( Blue box (phreaking) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) when they were still in college. By selling Blue Boxes, they committed fraud, which is a felony, and thus making them crooks.

    I should know...I was once a crook myself...

    I have no interest in hacking, except maybe in modifying airfoils or rocket nozzles in DLL files in space and flight simulations.

    -RODION

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Point taken. However, a "reformed" crook will always be a former crook, any way you see it. Wozniak and Steve Jobs were also former crooks--they sold Blue Boxes ( Blue box (phreaking) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) when they were still in college. By selling Blue Boxes, they committed fraud, which is a felony, and thus making them crooks.

    I should know...I was once a crook myself...

    I have no interest in hacking, except maybe in modifying airfoils or rocket nozzles in DLL files in space and flight simulations.

    -RODION
    All I can say is that DON'T ever underestimate HACKERS.

    Now it's a question of integrity - can we really trust our information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackdronza View Post
    All I can say is that DON'T ever underestimate HACKERS.

    Now it's a question of integrity - can we really trust our information?
    Who ever said anything about underestimating anyone? Are you basically concluding that I underestimated this Mitnick fellow by calling him a crook?

    There was once a fellow named Robin Hood, who lived in the woods at Nottingham. He was also a crook, but I'd be totally wrong if I was underestimating what he stood for, or what he was capable of doing.

    That said, my admiration of Robin Hood doesn't necessarily conclude that I would want to invite him for dinner.

    Ergo, it is actually quite possible to admire someone's capabilities but, at the same time, dislike him/her as a person.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 04-22-2009 at 02:22 PM.

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    hehehehehehehehehe ya ryt

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    The topic turns out into a "circus". "Crooks" on the hot seat. Guys, lets get back to the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliff_drew View Post
    The topic turns out into a "circus". Crooks on the hot seat. Guys, lets get back to the issue.
    Mao jud. Unsaon maka lingaw man gud ang issue that leads to other issues regarding hacking, crooks etc...

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    This is EXACTLY STILL on the issue. You have no idea what sort of precedent this move is creating--it's trying to "glorify" hacking as a "suave" and "cool" job, and get young kids to start thinking like:

    "Hey katong guy nga taga-Cebu, katong naghimo ug ILOVEU virus, grabe no? Sikata na kaayo! I WANT TO BE LIKE HIM!"

    or

    "Hey, did you hear about the guy who managed to hack into the COMELEC Eletronic Voting System? Grabe no? When I grow up, I want to be like him!"

    Ok, let it be clear that I won't have any complaints if the reason these kids want to "grow up like them" is that they want to have the same level of skills. But to grow up and become LIKE them, in the sense that they are "733t h4ck3r5", is a totally different thing. Having a certain skill set is one thing, but using those skills to make yourself richer than the next guy by breaking the law is another thing.

    -RODION

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    Ok, let it be clear that I won't have any complaints if the reason these kids want to "grow up like them" is that they want to have the same level of skills. But to grow up and become LIKE them, in the sense that they are "733t h4ck3r5", is a totally different thing. Having a certain skill set is one thing, but using those skills to make yourself richer than the next guy by breaking the law is another thing.
    Hackers hack systems not to make richer person themselves, but to publish their acts in order to aware or remind people that their systems is easy to intrude and improve more on their IT security.

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    hey hack tools are like guns, law enforcers use it to protect people. if it falls in the hands of criminals something bad will happen.

    security auditors use their tools and their talents to help business firms to secure and/or hardened their applications against bad people who possess same tools and talents as they have hehe

    dili na sya always bad. maybe ang point ni cayetano is for testing purposes.

    maypa mo hire na sya ug security auditing team.

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