Discuss the Bible~

[rexter]

yah u hav a point also... just my 2 cents also and no offense intended..


just to discuss further:

when we say Philippines(Disaster), we know that there is Luzon(tsunami),Visayas(earthquake) and Mindanao(tornado). Hence, by saying Luzon(tsunami) we know that it is in Philippines (Disaster).

In short, when we say Philippines, it has its regions,provinces,cities,barangays..etc.. it completes the whole idea.

[rcruman]

wala lang tingali ko ka understand logically bro...so, help me understand logically what verse in the Bible referred to the Asian Tsunami?

15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
Ecclesiastes 3:15

naa man gani to nag-ingon nga ang Pilipinas naa sa Bible...ambot unsa to nga verse iyang na understand logically to be the Philippine Islands..

14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea.
15 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
Isaiah 24:14-15

and Philippines was composed of Islands (7000+).

Peace!

[victor3]

Then it's still not complete because it wasn't all included. I'm just twisting the subject sir. No offense. Honestly, in my opinion - we can never say it is complete and not complete. Why? Imagine in the old scrolls were so big (paper wise) that it's almost a meter in length and compresed to just one small book now in every Christian Bible based faith. It will be easy to compress those written accounts in a fashionable and tiny manner. Besides, war is sometimes the main reason why we don't see all of them now.... just my 2 cents worth.

As far as salvation is concerned, the bible that we have today is complete. There are books nga wala na naapil og compile (say letters to corinthians, there are three of them instead of just 2), but we can never tell its incomplete kay nasulti naman tanan ang requisites and laws.

15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

Ecclesiastes 3:15

What makes the bible advanced is that all the major catastrophes, the decline in morality, the emergence of pestilences, and emergence of false prophets and false religions....even scientific discoveries that we viewed as just recent milestones were stated, although not word for word, but in essence which is maoy importante if you are a believer.

Ang verse nga gi-post ni rcruman isip tubag unsa'y verse nga nag-predict sa Asian tsunami nag-ingon nga "kun unsay nahitabo sa karon, sa nangagi...muabot gihapon sa umaabot". Tsunami is flood, and bisag kinsa diri nakahibaw that there once was a great flood.

[NASYO]

mananag-an tali na cya..

no concrete basis..

only human VS nature ra jud involved kung naa mga catastrophies.. natural or man-made

[NASYO]

bookish ra man kaayo ni cya oi.. bible is only a book..

[NASYO]

An unforeseen future nestled somewhere in time.
Unsuspecting victims no warnings, no signs.
Judgment day the second coming arrives.
Before you see the light you must die.

[tripwire]

As far as salvation is concerned, the bible that we have today is complete. There are books nga wala na naapil og compile (say letters to corinthians, there are three of them instead of just 2), but we can never tell its incomplete kay nasulti naman tanan ang requisites and laws.
Ecclesiastes 3:15

What makes the bible advanced is that all the major catastrophes, the decline in morality, the emergence of pestilences, and emergence of false prophets and false religions....even scientific discoveries that we viewed as just recent milestones were stated, although not word for word, but in essence which is maoy importante if you are a believer.

Ang verse nga gi-post ni rcruman isip tubag unsa'y verse nga nag-predict sa Asian tsunami nag-ingon nga "kun unsay nahitabo sa karon, sa nangagi...muabot gihapon sa umaabot". Tsunami is flood, and bisag kinsa diri nakahibaw that there once was a great flood.

Hi victor3, I agree on you that by salvation and goodness the book is complete (aside from those uncompiled books) but Laws in Bible has flaws too... I'm not a Bible "wild reader" :P but I read for my own and I benefited from it but when we say complete we have to make sure that when we interpret the Bible in its purpose not for the sakes of what it is/are happening now because the Bible comes from God and He spoke good things not "destructions/catastrophe/discoveries" that we see now. Or shall we say interpret the Bible that has moral values or serve as a moral value for people like us not a some kind of "almanac".

I am firm believer of God and his works but I don't compare His good things (as written in the Bible) to any books. Sure we learn from them but we should never correspond that as equal to scientific discoveries because these are "man/woman" observations - sure we can also benefit from it. We have to interpret the Bible the proper ways not literal ways. I hope I made my point clear. If not, I'll kiss you na lang. okay?

[victor3]

hi tripwire, not clear gihapon so kiss nalang hehe...anyway that kiss, for me, could mean spiritual ha...unless you insist otherwise. Same ra pod sa biblia. Naay butang literal ug espiritohanon depende sa konteksto sa given passage.

The bible could be an almanac too....with chronological events arranged by millennial instead of annual, highlighting salient events rather than outlining it word for word. Example sa panghitabo nga na-mention sa biblia ug istorikal nga basahon mao ang paghari ni Caesar ug ang Seige of Jerusalem (AD 70). This catastrophe was predicted even sa old testament pa.

Ang Asian Tsunami, Hiroshima Bombing ug World War II, although major events na sa 20th century pero ang magnitude niya susama lang pod sa nahitabong katalagman sa nangaging panahon, butang nga maka-termino lamang ang bibliya kanila as a general term "catastrophe" or "flood" or "war" encompassing tanang tragic events in the entire historical epoch.

Gitag-an sa bibliya, for example, ang umaabot nga katalagman....ug natinuod kana sa nahitabong Asian Tsunami ug uban pa.

[leo_trams]

Ang Asian Tsunami, Hiroshima Bombing ug World War II, although major events na sa 20th century pero ang magnitude niya susama lang pod sa nahitabong katalagman sa nangaging panahon, butang nga maka-termino lamang ang bibliya kanila as a general term "catastrophe" or "flood" or "war" encompassing tanang tragic events in the entire historical epoch.

Gitag-an sa bibliya, for example, ang umaabot nga katalagman....ug natinuod kana sa nahitabong Asian Tsunami ug uban pa.

asa dapita sa Bibliya ang Asian Tsunami bro?

[bcasabee]

Para mas objective ang conclusion nganong mas advance ang Bible. Dapat naa pud untay list of other ancient books para ma-compare sa Bible.