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  1. #131

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.ho_chia2
    that is your version. but hey there are alot of other versions and we are people too.........
    whatelse can you think of except his absence... hmmm?

  2. #132

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    no need to think of anything at all, If you don't feel HIM or experience HIM that's not proof enough.....

    we feel HIM and we experience HIS goodness.

    so between your words and mine, i chose to believe in me. hehe, no offense meant.

  3. #133

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    What else can you provide for his PHYSICAL PRESENCE?

  4. #134

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan
    Patriotism to their tribes, to their family and thier livelihood... doesn't mean entire land. Contemporary yes, but we have so many islands that sets different tribal laws... bathala for the luzon areas... but what about the visayas and mindanao? This is what I mean patriotisms... each tribes had it's own laws... christianity and the existence of christian god was not salvation for the tribal people... partriotisms will physically save your life. Salvation through christian faith? that's a big question mark.
    uneducated still the same result as uncivilized... that's their first impression when they landed. They have religion in them, guns, swords, cannons, ships, business, they are advanced compared to our ancestors but they didn't stop them from fighting their religion... we've lost however later because they brought more people and more arms. That considered my friend their christianity by forcing "natives" to submit to their god.
    Exactly the correct definitions... and do you know why they abuse it? IT'S IN THE BIBLE!
    I know you believe in god... but who is that god you're referring to? Christian God? Islamic God, Shinto God, Buddhist God, or the God that communism believed. If you choose christian god... let's go back to propagation of christianity using force.
    Patriotism - denotes positive and supportive attitudes to a 'fatherland' by individuals and groups.(terminology)
    You havent clearly defined what you mean by salvation again, i cant comment on that anymore.(specification)
    Tribal laws are government laws, anitos/Bathala are for religion.(differentiation)
    Understand civilization first then understand education, then you'll see its not the same.
    History: when the spaniards came, their intentions are the 3g's(not the mobile 3g's) hehe. But God, Gold, Glory.
    By the way, you are correct of forcing their religion, but not all since some part of the country embraced christianity.(generalization)

    Im not an expert regarding the bible, but i doubt that the reason why human atrocities happened was that it was in the bible. Simply think of it that our ancestors were not that wise back then.

    I respect any other religion and its followers. Its one way of having peace with other religion. A lot of people died not because of God but because of religion. Which is more important?
    (Let me do my thing and let them do their thing and after that we can have a bottle of beer and a good laugh)
    Simply for me, i dont classify God as the one in this or that religion. I see Him as the Supreme Being. Of all.

  5. #135

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    hehe. what else can you provide physical presence to prove air, wind, emotions etc?

    actually, on second thought you have disproven the existence of GOD...... almost.

  6. #136

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan
    What else can you provide for his PHYSICAL PRESENCE?
    that is for you to find out.
    seek it with all your heart so you shall find.
    if you find it hard to embrace, maybe you dont deserve God. just maybe, who am i to say. hehe.

  7. #137

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    no one can tell you what not to believe..

  8. #138

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Patriotism - denotes positive and supportive attitudes to a 'fatherland' by individuals and groups.(terminology)
    Correct, do you need religion for that or perhaps god to be patriotic?

    You havent clearly defined what you mean by salvation again, i cant comment on that anymore.(specification)
    IMOD, salvation through heroic acts. Tama ba?

    Tribal laws are government laws, anitos/Bathala are for religion.(differentiation)
    Tribal laws are governmental laws? Can you elaborate more on this? Tribal laws don't need religion to prosper that differs.

    Understand civilization first then understand education, then you'll see its not the same.
    you're missing the point, if I say a person uneducated... what comes to your mind? If you are civil then you're educated... but what was their objective? cilicize the unciivilized... therefore uneducated to their standards.

    History: when the spaniards came, their intentions are the 3g's(not the mobile 3g's) hehe. But God, Gold, Glory.
    No... historically speaking... they were lost! They don't know where they are in the first place... accidentally landed an island... They were looking for spices. You're correct in Gold portion because they were hungry for wealth... el dorado was their target... all they got, natives fighting against them.

    By the way, you are correct of forcing their religion, but not all since some part of the country embraced christianity.(generalization)
    Historically, so many died because of christianity... take the story of Joan of Arc... our history itself... megllan and lapu-lapu and 300+ years under spain. France, Italty... they didn't embrace christianity rather forced into them. Question, can you name any country that are properous after embracing christianity? I mean, that are wealthy enough for the people.

    Im not an expert regarding the bible, but i doubt that the reason why human atrocities happened was that it was in the bible. Simply think of it that our ancestors were not that wise back then.
    Wait, if they are not wise then... meaning uneducated, uncivilzed... correct? I don't agree with that... in fact, they were... how else why they were fighting for it?

    I respect any other religion and its followers. Its one way of having peace with other religion. A lot of people died not because of God but because of religion. Which is more important? (Let me do my thing and let them do their thing and after that we can have a bottle of beer and a good laugh)God=Religion... no matter how you put it. different gods still equals religion... therefore, god is...

  9. #139

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    that is for you to find out.
    seek it with all your heart so you shall find.
    if you find it hard to embrace, maybe you dont deserve God. just maybe, who am i to say. hehe.
    I found out that he doesn't exist. period. How will I embrace something that I can't see, feel, hear, and talk back to me while I am talking?

    I don't want to belong to those people that are Schizophrenic. No pun intended.

  10. #140

    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan
    I found out that he doesn't exist. period. How will I embrace something that I can't see, feel, hear, and talk back to me while I am talking?

    I don't want to belong to those people that are Schizophrenic. No pun intended.
    So everything you believed has physical existence?
    How sure are you that your mother is your true mother (without using first DNA test)?
    As of this moment way back till the time you're born you believed that she is your mother because you can feel it.
    And if you have son/daughter are you sure it is yours( without using first DNA test)?
    Can you see anger? (not the manifestation).
    Can you explain laughter?

    All of my query to you are actually happening to you many times, can you explain it why through physical existence?

    God is spirit and no one can see spirit but rather feel the spirit.

    Tell me frankly bro sinyalan, do you believe on spirit?

    Peace!

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