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  1. #131

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    i think its influential...

  2. #132

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    homosexuality per se, is not a disease, nor is it even classified as a psychological disorder.

    you cannot find it listed in the DSM-IV-TR (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) (wikipedia entry)
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

  3. #133

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    it is true that it is genetic but it can also be psychological

  4. #134

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeepwateR View Post
    Homosexuality maybe a disorder but not genetic. They all have XY chromosome, so genotypically male and having male genitals thus phenotypically male sad. The dysfunction lies psychologically when child passes the infantile-toddler stage when they become aware of differences in sexes "subconsciously" if corrected grows up to prefer what he was genetically and phenotypically is made up of. what he experiences/ observes as he grows up later affirms his preference of sexuality especially at time of puberty-adolescent.
    The statement above is interesting because it seems to contradict the recent findings in epigenetics nga nag-ingon nga ang sexual preference nagsugod dihang embryo pa ang bata (dili sa 'infantile-toddler stage'). Any scientific journal or credible science literature to support the statement I quoted above?

  5. #135

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    For me, these things are factors that can/will cause homosexuality:
    1) Upbringing (sometimes one can grow up in an environment where there are no men. e.g. Single Mom with 3 girls + 1 boy).
    2) Peers (makabayot ang sige kuyog sa bayot)
    3) Genetics (some men have a tendency to be gay later in life)
    4) Diet (believe it or not some foods that have estrogen CAN make you gay)
    5) Drugs (deliberate intake of estrogen)

  6. #136

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    For me, these things are factors that can/will cause homosexuality:
    1) Upbringing (sometimes one can grow up in an environment where there are no men. e.g. Single Mom with 3 girls + 1 boy).
    If this is statement is true, then it should be true in all cases. Pero daghan mang pamilya nga usa ra'y anak laki, daghan babaye. Unya kanang anak nga lalaki straight man, dili man bayot.

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    2) Peers (makabayot ang sige kuyog sa bayot)
    Walay straight nga lalaki nga ganahan magsige'g kuyog2x og bayot. Bisan kanang word nga 'bayot' mismo, dili ganahan ang mga straight guy nga i-associate ana.

    You can try this experiment yourself (if you are a guy): Pangita og usa ka straight guy unya ingna siya 'Bayot ka bay?'. Tan-awa unsa ang iyang reaction. Caution: Ladies, don't try this experiment alone.


    Siyempre kun bayot or maya ka, mangita gyud ka og grupo nga makasabot sa imong situation, grupo nga pareha nimo og hilig. So, kanang pagsige og kuyog2x sa mga bayot, dili na maoy cause sa pagkabayot. Epekto na sa pagkabayot. Kung straight ka nga lalaki, dili gyud ka makahuna-huna og kuyog2x sa mga bading (gawas kun duna kay laing motibo).


    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    4) Diet (believe it or not some foods that have estrogen CAN make you gay)
    This is a myth. Wala gyud ni siya'y scientific basis. Hinuon ang mga findings sa science nagtug-an nga ang exposure sa bata nga wala pa matawo sa mga hormones like testosterone maoy maka-masculinize sa utok. Pero once natawo na ang bata, kanang maong mga hormones dili na makapausab sa iyang sexual orientation.

    Kun tinuod pa ning item #4, na-publish na unta ni sa mga scientific ug medical journals.


    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    5) Drugs (deliberate intake of estrogen)
    Possible siguro ni kun buntis ang moinom. Pero ang epekto ngadto sa iyang anak, dili sa iyang kaugalingon. Pero kun straight guy na gani istoryahan, bisan pa siguro og usa ka barrel nga estrogen imong ipa-inom, dili gyud na siya mabayot.

  7. #137

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    bro, i said SOMETIMES i never said it is a GUARANTEED cause.

  8. #138

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    If this is statement is true, then it should be true in all cases. Pero daghan mang pamilya nga usa ra'y anak laki, daghan babaye. Unya kanang anak nga lalaki straight man, dili man bayot.
    That's why it is stated "SOMETIMES" and not "ALWAYS". If you say "daghan" naa pud "uban". I know 2 gay people who grew up in a majority female environment.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Walay straight nga lalaki nga ganahan magsige'g kuyog2x og bayot. Bisan kanang word nga 'bayot' mismo, dili ganahan ang mga straight guy nga i-associate ana.

    You can try this experiment yourself (if you are a guy): Pangita og usa ka straight guy unya ingna siya 'Bayot ka bay?'. Tan-awa unsa ang iyang reaction. Caution: Ladies, don't try this experiment alone.


    Siyempre kun bayot or maya ka, mangita gyud ka og grupo nga makasabot sa imong situation, grupo nga pareha nimo og hilig. So, kanang pagsige og kuyog2x sa mga bayot, dili na maoy cause sa pagkabayot. Epekto na sa pagkabayot. Kung straight ka nga lalaki, dili gyud ka makahuna-huna og kuyog2x sa mga bading (gawas kun duna kay laing motibo).
    Obvious misconception on your part and you're probably basing that on your current level of maturity.

    Bro, when I was first year high school I didn't know what "gay" was. I made friends with a lot of people and, as you would have it, people who I didn't know were gay. Those who did stick around eventually became gay as well.

    So your argument above is a fallacy.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Possible siguro ni kun buntis ang moinom. Pero ang epekto ngadto sa iyang anak, dili sa iyang kaugalingon. Pero kun straight guy na gani istoryahan, bisan pa siguro og usa ka barrel nga estrogen imong ipa-inom, dili gyud na siya mabayot.
    Bro, current gays take more of this to develop feminine characteristics. So again, your claim dili mabayot if magoverdose ka ana is again, false.

  9. #139

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    So again, your claim dili mabayot if magoverdose ka ana is again, false.
    Well, that is your opinion. But since this thread is intended to be an objective, scientific discussion, allow me to cite a scientific literature.

    Factors influencing s3x differences in the brain are genetic factors like mutations or polymorphism in the s3x hormone receptors, abnormal prenatal hormone levels and compounds and environmental endocrine disruptes. When given during the pregnancy, they interact with the action of s3x hormones on the fetal brain. An influence of postnatal factors on gender or sexual orientation has not been established.

    Sexual Differentiation in the Human Brain
    D.F. Swaab, A.M Bao and T. Ishunina
    Klaro kaayo nga ang epekto anang mga 's3x hormones' sa gender ug sexual orientation didto lamang naka-confine sa mga bata nga wala pa matawo (prenatal).

  10. #140

    Default Re: Is homosexuality a genetic disorder?

    and what year was this article published?

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