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  1. #131

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!


    Quote Originally Posted by hala tindak jud
    Ok, then if we are talking about democracy, does this sytem (i mean this present Semi-feudal, semi-capitalist system of ours) is giving the democracy?

    Ambot lang sa imong side by marquee, na as simple as not talking or just trying to dodge the argument lang imoha about the subject.

    pEace...(is also in a democratic state)

    I wont jump into another argument about democracy, let others make some topic about it. If no one in here wants to discuss their ideas why they hate communism(constructively) then better to stay afloat and read some more interesting threads.
    I don't dislike socialism per se. We have a false democracy right now and you're right, we are still in the ancient feudalistic, plantation economy ruled by the same elite that are descendants of the ilustrados and principalias during the Spanish colonial period. The gap between the rich and the poor has become a chasm in our country because the same ruling elite took advantage of the ignorance and poverty of our people.

    I believe in social justice, socialized housing policy, free health care, and most importantly to strengthen our AGRICULTURAL SECTOR the very backbone of our economy is to implement once and for all LAND REFORM sans the loopholes and the wheeling and dealing with the bureacracy. A land reform that allows only a maximum of 1 hectare retention for the landowners. Daghang masuko naku ini especially the landed elite, but if we ever want to achieve lasting peace and prosperity for this country. Unahon nato pag atiman ang atong mga marginalized agricultural sector.

    But communism as an alternative or panacea to all or woes. It will not work!

  2. #132

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by antoy hilom
    Quote Originally Posted by hala tindak jud
    Ok, then if we are talking about democracy, does this sytem (i mean this present Semi-feudal, semi-capitalist system of ours) is giving the democracy?

    Ambot lang sa imong side by marquee, na as simple as not talking or just trying to dodge the argument lang imoha about the subject.

    pEace...(is also in a democratic state)

    I wont jump into another argument about democracy, let others make some topic about it. If no one in here wants to discuss their ideas why they hate communism(constructively) then better to stay afloat and read some more interesting threads.
    I don't dislike socialism per se. We have a false democracy right now and you're right, we are still in the ancient feudalistic, plantation economy ruled by the same elite that are descendants of the ilustrados and principalias during the Spanish colonial period. The gap between the rich and the poor has become a chasm in our country because the same ruling elite took advantage of the ignorance and poverty of our people.

    I believe in social justice, socialized housing policy, free health care, and most importantly to strengthen our AGRICULTURAL SECTOR the very backbone of our economy is to implement once and for all LAND REFORM sans the loopholes and the wheeling and dealing with the bureacracy. A land reform that allows only a maximum of 1 hectare retention for the landowners. Daghang masuko naku ini especially the landed elite, but if we ever want to achieve lasting peace and prosperity for this country. Unahon nato pag atiman ang atong mga marginalized agricultural sector.

    But communism as an alternative or panacea to all or woes. It will not work!
    Yeah! I Agree of it. Then if we push harder to let Communism come on to us. Mura ta ug nilang Popoy Lagman ana, nilang Romulo Kintanar og ni Ka Hector, as what I had red.

    That is why there are some groups na wants to change the system, by installing a Nationalist Democraticized Society, wherein sa gi ingon nimo sa unahan. It is what i want to learn next, but sa akong reviews baliktad ang nauna. It came na Communism akong natackle instead of Socialism or National Democrartic Revolution preha sa China.

    Pero it is not my topic right now, i need to support my argument why Russia and China failed, that is why I am tryingto ask some guys in here. WHY? but there answers were to childish for me, and even acoounted Joma as gay..heheheh i laughed at those guys kay they know there gender much.

    But then i am looking forward for more response...

    Still throwing the same Question...Why Communism Failed?

  3. #133

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    "common ownership of wealth and goods" a.k.a EQUALITY

    is one of the communist/socialist ideals that somehow majority of the masses won't accept were the major reasons why communism failed.

  4. #134

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    .. and unless it can offer better things that we are enjoying right now then i might think twice

  5. #135

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by agoroy
    "common ownership of wealth and goods" a.k.a EQUALITY

    is one of the communist/socialist ideals that somehow majority of the masses won't accept were the major reasons why communism failed.
    Then, you mentioned here EQUALITY, masses, ideals.

    Then are you concluding that the masses has a wealth that those elite has? Make yourself clear who are afraid to share their wealth. If you are asking a farmer to share his piece of land, if he has, naturally he won't give it to somebody, even in the name of Communism, but that wont happen to a Commie state, again for the nth time, there is no classes can be classified on that state, anybody can become whatwever he want, if he want to become someone, as long as it wont bring chaos and step on someone's throat.

    If you are talking here the elite as what our government are composed of, then they are the one who are afraid of it. If you were afraid about sharing your wealth, then you must be afraid if you had an extra amount of it. If in case you have. We are not talking here a piece of land, if you have a hectares of it. then be much afraid, then if you are willing to share it to others in order to progress then it will be surely welcome.

    Ang concept man gud nato sa sharing of land is to monopolize it, kung kinsa ang nagleader ani nga state. mao na. But in a state wherein nagbuild pa og Socialism, we must share it sa wala para makasustener ta sa atong bakwaRD nga ekonomya. Para mapalambo og mamahimong usa ka industriyalisadong nasud.

    I doubt mahitabo ni dayob dayon, kay it is too impossible kung ang tanang tao dili pa aware nga naa diay class war.

  6. #136

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by hala tindak jud
    Still throwing the same Question...Why Communism Failed?
    I have an answer but you probably won't agree it is valid one since it involves the mysterious hand of God. Well, just speaking my mind.

  7. #137

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Ipamogos gyud na ninyong Communism nga kamo ray nakasabot ana! May lang mo pagbasa pero wa gyud mo kasabot sa inyong gibasa..

  8. #138

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Why Communism Failed?
    I like your persistence in asking this question and I tell you I appreciate it very much! I can cite a litany of socio-economic reasons why Communism failed in Russia and China!... but the most compelling reason is - COMMUNISM HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE DIGNITY OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM! It is that simple. if still that doesn't satisfy you. I'll give you more reasons why!

  9. #139

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by jonciocon
    Ipamogos gyud na ninyong Communism nga kamo ray nakasabot ana! May lang mo pagbasa pero wa gyud mo kasabot sa inyong gibasa..
    Again, we, I, or you are not pushing it too hard, right? para ma please ka ha, I will not go down to your level of thinking right now, just keep reading, review my post, and refer mister antoy hilom's previous post.

    I am not pushing Communism here as a solution to this inutile Administration, the hell I care if this Admin will go down by itself...Again, this system rots, and we knew it since from the start.

    What I am asking is an oponion from an anti-Commie to have myself reflects from your views, again, I am no Commie, then if you label me as one, it is your will. I am here to do a review for my own purpose.

    And in this society, we know it that the more popular wave of culture is the anti-Commie culture, so, where shd i collect infos. from my own? I had collected side by some Commie friends, then in order to collect another side of the ball, ang-angan adto sd ko kuha nila. GOt it?

    Then, if your hard ass cannot still understand, and ipatuman gihapon na ninyo ang kainit sa inyong lobot, then i doubt you will grow.

    Come on, just answer my question...WHY COMMUNISM FAILED?

    As for those who are anti-Commies, please widen your side, it is too narrow your analysis about it. it doesn't showed and convinced me that Communism failed because Joma is a faggot. Please be a good thinker sad oi.

    And then, kinsa man ang wala makasabot sa iyang gibasa dire, jonciocon?

  10. #140

    Default Prof. Jose Maria Sison's analysis...Interesting read!

    Quote Originally Posted by antoy hilom
    Why Communism Failed?
    I like your persistence in asking this question and I tell you I appreciate it very much! I can cite a litany of socio-economic reasons why Communism failed in Russia and China!... but the most compelling reason is - COMMUNISM HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE DIGNITY OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM! It is that simple. if still that doesn't satisfy you. I'll give you more reasons why!
    An interesting idea...but why, please spread(ur legs) a bit. It is my pleasure if you support your answer wiht a book, so that i can read it by myself. Please do include the author of it.

    And still hangin for the big WHY!

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