youth activist captured..

[eax]

Having read the entire thread, it seems to me that this has become a debate between Communism and Democracy.

If there is one thing I learned in Pol. Sci. 11, its that you can't compare the two. Demorcray is a political form while Communism is an economic form. The right comparison should be between Communism and Capitalism, Democracy vs. Marxism.

Someone mentioned here about China, what I think he failed to see, is that China is where she is now, because she learned how to open her doors to Capitalism.

Mao gyud.

Dinha nakita na unsa ka powerful ang capitalism. Take for example China, ngano ang China dili man makahilabot sa HongKong? If China, still loyal to Communism kanang HongKong hagbay na siya na communist. Pero ngano karon mga capitalismo gihapon ang nag-dala sa HongKong.

Mao dinha ang failure sa China or Communism as a whole.

[aulim]

huna2 lng gud mo kung unsa na ron ang modern day communism, PRC, vietnam,

I envy China. They are only communist by name. Look where they are now. In 5 years, where will they be.

Vietnam will surpass the Philippines economically in another 10 years. This is a communist country will very democratic inclinations (economics).

This rebellion of ours for the past 40 years has drained our national treasury. Money that would have been better invested in education, agriculture, health services, infrastructure.

The military use this to get more budget; the rebels ride on this issue to raise money also.

[hulagway]

na.a sad koy right na mo voice out and so? kung nahan mo respetaran inyong opinion, respetari pud una ang uban. dili mo cgeg reklamo na sayop ang among tinihu.an.

ma lalis pana? murag dile man. gi kapoy nakog cgeg debate ani dire sa istorya panahon pato namo ni archer_sensation og ni springgy. kung pangutan.on na ningyo sila ga tuyok tuyok ra gihapon ang sturya. lahi lahi ang pag tan.aw sa usa ka tao.



utro pud ni nagpakaingon "critical" kuno. before makig lalis ka tan.aw sa imo grammar oi... mauwaw man pud ta

o kay wala man gud gihapon nahimo..ng dugang lang jud mo sa kalisod sa ato nasud,,imagena kono kung kato sila namatay napud sa encounter,,another dead youth napud unta ni? dili mo anogonan ana bai kinabuhi ntawn na.. tanawa gud na ang nasud nga wala problema sa insurgency,,hapsay kaayo ang ila pagpoyu,, ing-ana unta ato diri bai,,

[ryan_boy22]

amazing... kalouy sa parents aning mga bataa... hahay... good luck...

[hulagway]

Army arrested 3 students and paraded them as captured NPAs, youth group says


By Gerry Albert Corpuz, Senior Reporter, The Pamalakaya Times
Cebu City- The chairperson of the Cebu chapter of the militant youth group ANAKBAYAN on Wednesday condemned the illegal arrest and detention of three youth activists by the Philippine Army, who later paraded them as prize trophies as members of the New People’s army operating in the Central Philippines.
In a press statement emailed to The Pamalakaya Times, Anakbayan Cebu chair Regletto Aldrich Imbong charged members of the 79th IBPA over the unlawful arrest and detantion of Karlo Cabahug, Maria Carla Alvarico ang Glenn Absin, all members of the militant youth group.
The military in Central Visayas reported the three activist students youth were caught in gunfire between the New Peoples’ Army (NPA) and elements of the 79th IBPA in Pulang Yuta, Mayabon, Zamboanguita, Negros Oriental.
But the Anakbayan official dismissed the military report as fabricated. Imbong said the three were active militant youth leaders in Cebu. He said Alvarico, is the Chairperson of the College Editors’ Guild of the Philippines; Cabahug was an active member of the Student Alliance for Nationalism and Democracy (STAND)- University of San Carlos and an active alumni of the said organization; while Absin, was an active member of the League of Filipino Students (LFS) chapter in the province.
“This act of the AFP is never new. Especially that the most hated Operational Plan Bantay Laya II (OBL II) is going to end next year, the AFP is more desperate to capture CPP-NPAs in order to meet its objective, which is to destroy the armed revolution in the Philippines by 2010,” Imbong said.
He added: ” However, OBL2 only sows more human rights violations, both in the cities and in the country sides. What the AFP is doing is targeting members and leaders of legal militant organizations, in order to discredit the integrity of militant youth organizations. This is not just a desperate act, but also a cowardly one. Instead of chasing after their real enemies, the AFP chases after innocent victims.”
Anakbayan-Cebu chapter also asserted the illegal arrest and detention and the misrepresentation of three student activists also reflects the kind of justice system we have here in the Philippines. “The AFP, instead of upholding provisions stated in our 1987 constitution, are the ones violating it. Due process of law was never given to the three youth leaders and branding them already as “members of the NPA”, a move that directly violates the principle of presuming innocence to “suspects” unless proven guilty,’ the group said.
Anakbayan-Cebu chapter said these arbitrary arrests done by the AFP is possible to every innocent Filipino, and we are encouraging all Filipinos to be vigilant and more, militant, against these cowardly and desperate moves.
The left-leaning youth group said the armed revolution to end, the AFP and the US-Arroyo government must find solutions to the very roots of our problems, especially the centuries-old problem of landlessness in the Philippines.
Anakbayan said the moves of the US-Arroyo and the AFP seemed to be a fuel to the said armed revolution. Since the AFP failed to present real NPA captives, the AFP is just trying to say something of which they are ashamed to admit: that the armed revolution in the country sides, waged by the CPP-NPA, is getting stronger, a situation they can never control.#

another propaganda napud ni,,
same gihapon ni kato namatay na activist 1st is wala nila gangkon pro later on nakaamgo na.ila na gi-ankon nga NPA jud,,ayaw ninyo i abandon inyo member.luoy pud

[victor3]

In a democracy or communist or dictatorship, there will always be abusive military personnel, abusive rebels and abusive politicians. di ba power comes from the barrel of the gun?

that's why they want to outlaw guns. what if we were like texas? and we have the right to bear arms? these abusive people might not like it when we can fight back. I read somewhere that in certain conditions, you can use deadly force against the government. But hey! we are not in Texas.

By advocating rebellion, who's interest are they for? ..............the arms manufacturer .

you might be referring to che guevarra-like rebellion who employed guns and nothing but guns to achieve their goal.

the way i see it, the kind of "rebellion" here is sparked by the discontent of the masses wrought by economic oppression and wanton abuse by those who are in power, who happens to be all belonging to the elite class. therefore, ang duwa diay is class struggle and its not just rebellion (supak sa sistema) its a revolution (gusto bag-uhon ang sistema). it can be won not by arms alone but by advancement of socialist awareness.

they say that this revolution is totally decimated kay lagi ga-sayaw2x nalang si joma with ara mina, or the ideology itself could no longer keep up with the modern times. remember that this is not joma's war and neither have we attained modernity, or "the end of history" yet (the end of class struggle and the victory of liberal democracy) as one celebrated liberal writer put it. as long as naay gutom, naa gihapon ang pakigbisog sa mga anak sa singot.

[Vietcong696]

I envy China. They are only communist by name. Look where they are now. In 5 years, where will they be.

Vietnam will surpass the Philippines economically in another 10 years. This is a communist country will very democratic inclinations (economics).

This rebellion of ours for the past 40 years has drained our national treasury. Money that would have been better invested in education, agriculture, health services, infrastructure.

The military use this to get more budget; the rebels ride on this issue to raise money also.

ngnu m.envy mn twn ka...w cgro ka kbw sa unsay n.hitabo sa mga students sa tiananmen square protest? ang mga taw ngdto mura r ug robot...ang n.datu ug hayahay mao ang mga miymbro ra sa communist party...wlay freedom of speech...mg.rally2 ka ngdto drtso ka sa prisohan nya poltical debriefing dayon

[DonMarc]

makibaka! makibaboy!

Mabuhay ang rebolusyon! mabuhay! Mabuhay!

murag nangalayo naman ni inyo arguments dinhe. I thought about ni atong 3 na nacapture.

Kay ako gusto mahibaw an unsa sila na pagkatawo kay kaila man ang uban ninyo.

Unsay nahimo nilang motivation na graduhan man sila pero nisud sila ana o unsa.

Let's face it bisan pag si Obama ang president nato. naa gyuy rebelde. kay sa panimalay pa lang naa naman na.

Sakto ka jem..about ni sa tulo nga na-capture..

Naa ko kaila definitely sa usa ani.. ang duha, duha2 pako kun kaila bako..

Abwt sa motivation nila, nga graduhan man kaha, its bcoz they know more things nga gi-hide sa government.. Very noble ang ila intention.. to think nga very good speakers gyud kasagaran ang mga students nga apil ani, they chose to join the immersion nga countryside ra kaayo instead of working in our companies here like BPOs.

[DonMarc]

o kay wala man gud gihapon nahimo..ng dugang lang jud mo sa kalisod sa ato nasud,,imagena kono kung kato sila namatay napud sa encounter,,another dead youth napud unta ni? dili mo anogonan ana bai kinabuhi ntawn na.. tanawa gud na ang nasud nga wala problema sa insurgency,,hapsay kaayo ang ila pagpoyu,, ing-ana unta ato diri bai,,

Ok rna bro..you're entitled to your own opinion... hehe

[gikapoy]

Originally Posted by hulagway View Post
o kay wala man gud gihapon nahimo..ng dugang lang jud mo sa kalisod sa ato nasud,,imagena kono kung kato sila namatay napud sa encounter,,another dead youth napud unta ni? dili mo anogonan ana bai kinabuhi ntawn na.. tanawa gud na ang nasud nga wala problema sa insurgency,,hapsay kaayo ang ila pagpoyu,, ing-ana unta ato diri bai,,

example.. singapore
rally = illegal assembly.. fine dayon
plano2x ka mag rally.. kung ma sakpan.. freeze tanan imo bank account
wala pud taugan ang mga rebelde hehehe

north korea
kana murag wala pud mga rebelde

US.. hmm lain pud na ila diha.. gina bombahan pud