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  1. #1381

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    Big Bang Theory is proposed by a Catholic priest. Flies aways.. poof !

  2. #1382

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    @cromagnon
    i never said i conclude. my answer is "ambot" asa gikan ang universe.
    - for science - we have the big bang theory , and theres no 100% proff
    and still it remains a theory , so we wont stop looking for the answer
    yet and therefore i conclude , that there's no conclusion yet and still
    yet to find.
    Brilliant minds come and go, the same mysteries left unanswered. You cannot fathom the depths of God's ingenuity. What he wants from us is our faith in him and not forcing yourself to be like God, knowing everything!

    If scientists would find it hard to explain the true origins of this universe, how much more sa atua nga atong generation nagkalayo na from the beginning? All discoveries are just speculations. Read the genesis account and have peace in mind. Only God is big enough to answer everything. Trust his word.

  3. #1383

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    =cromagnon;13099172][=heliopause;13095935]
    were on the same page about puting our
    choice to being on positive side.
    (opposite of beauty, love, peace, joy, unity, harmony, etc)
    but still presence of god is still out of
    the picture and not necssary.
    where did you get your morality if there is no moral lawgiver?
    Dr. Ravi Zacharias Question and Answer - Moral Law and Giver - YouTube.flv - YouTube

    before man kind created a god , we were
    all athiest .
    we just refuse to believe .
    and its not rational that if ur athiest
    ur are sinful , and sin is not part of our vocabulary,
    but we are concern about the consequences of our actions.
    how did you know that? you mean morality is just a product of evolution? Then atheists should and must have a higher moral standards than theists, because youre more evolved!

    what do you mean we dont have point of saving earth
    knowing about the bible doest help you understand
    pollution , recycling ,cause of global warming.
    , in fact its the scientist and not the priest
    are looking for alternative energy , innovation
    to avoid deterioration of earth.
    what can religion do about it .none.
    Religion shapes individual's perspective of life. Those people who care and took more initiative in preserving the earth are not atheists. They care about the value of life and the creation because they believe in god and you cannot learn that from atheism.

    when you say the moment god breath his spirit
    to a man , is that an fairy tale pinocio ..
    - and did it ever hapen ,any slight proff or theory.
    but just as a good as an anime book.
    Sounds impossible? Now think about this.
    Do you believe that you just came from a single drop of sperm? you were nothing and because of the consciousness and intellect that God imparted you are now able to question your existence.

  4. #1384

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    @cromagnon


    Brilliant minds come and go, the same mysteries left unanswered. You cannot fathom the depths of God's ingenuity. What he wants from us is our faith in him and not forcing yourself to be like God, knowing everything!

    If scientists would find it hard to explain the true origins of this universe, how much more sa atua nga atong generation nagkalayo na from the beginning? All discoveries are just speculations. Read the genesis account and have peace in mind. Trust God.
    Where did you know that what God wants from us is our faith in him and not forcing yourself to be like God, knowing everything?

    Science relies on evidence... Yes Science can't explain everything, but that doesn't mean God existed... Yes I don't know all things and I don't claim to know more... Religion claims to know everything, and that is serious... they claim to know the existence of life, every single religion of this world, and how do we pick one up? It requires serious evidence that surprisingly, after the enormous claims, they can't even provide just one...

  5. #1385

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    what do you mean we dont have point of saving earth
    knowing about the bible doest help you understand
    pollution , recycling ,cause of global warming.
    , in fact its the scientist and not the priest
    are looking for alternative energy , innovation
    to avoid deterioration of earth.
    what can religion do about it .none.
    really? can you provide some examples?

    Religion shapes individual's perspective of life. Those people who care and took more initiative in preserving the earth are not atheists. They care about the value of life and the creation because they believe in god and you cannot learn that from atheism.
    really? 'cause Bill Gates (agnostic) and Warren Buffet (atheist) just donated billions from their wealth to preserve life and nature... Mr. Buffet just donated 80% of his wealth.... While Pat Robertson (the religious preacher) and one of the richest catholics in the world never donated in his entire life and to make it worse, he also has his own slaves in a diamond mine in Africa, and that doesn't sound preserving nature...

    Sounds impossible? Now think about this.
    Do you believe that you just came from a single drop of sperm? you were nothing and because of the consciousness and intellect that God imparted you are now able to question your existence.
    [/QUOTE]

    How could you not believe that we came from a single sperm? Science can explain that, it hasn't broken the laws of nature and is a product of evolution... and it is an evidence of evolution...

  6. #1386

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    mmmmmmmm..... this is nice....

  7. #1387

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    Quote Originally Posted by kizzy_met21 View Post
    Where did you know that what God wants from us is our faith in him and not forcing yourself to be like God, knowing everything?
    In his words from the bible. Man is inclined to reading or listening nonsense but too stubborn when it comes to the word of god.

    Science relies on evidence... Yes Science can't explain everything, but that doesn't mean God existed...
    Evidence for what? it is only capable to explain the material universe, beyond that specially the supernatural it cannot explained.

    Yes I don't know all things and I don't claim to know more... Religion claims to know everything, and that is serious... they claim to know the existence of life, every single religion of this world, and how do we pick one up? It requires serious evidence that surprisingly, after the enormous claims, they can't even provide just one...
    It's better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
    Yes it claims to know everything about our origin, our meaning why we are here and our destiny. That is our challenge. And you know, God made it simple for us, he himself provided the way. What we need to do is to believe the one that was sent and compare the rest if it could come close to his claims and personality.

    hope this may help you understand the point of christianity. You can download and listen to these free mp3s.
    Why Jesus? - Listen to Ravi Zacharias from Let My People Think

  8. #1388

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    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    there are scientist that believe in god ,
    but they dont believe the same god as jessus.
    Einstein believe in cosmic god and not the one
    in the bible the rest or most the other scientist
    are athiest. including smart people.

    there may be a time when science once thought that earth was flat.
    but when colombus travel the world .science humbly accept
    their fault and admit were wrong .
    but tell that to friars that time . " dili kaha ka sunugon
    as what happen to galileo , concluding that the universe
    is around earth , and we orbit around the sun and not the
    sun orbiting around us .
    - why are they called blasphemy , burned/stoned to death .


    and this is being practiced until now with musmlim for their own honor
    . thats how DANGEROUS religion is , apostacy in muslim
    is death penalty.
    of course einstein would have not thought of Jesus to be God, 'cause he was Jewish
    however it the same God that Christians would refer to as Father God. Jews and Christians had issues with the divinity of Jesus but that is not the topic..it's whether God exists or not
    as per history yeah there were lots of abusive friars,priest in the catholic church..maybe even now
    there are still some(in a discreet fashion maybe).some may have concluded science as blasphemous
    in the past..same as Jesus was accused by the Jewish high priest in His time.
    and yes, i agree that religion cannot bring us to salvation 'cause anyone can create religion,anybody can
    put up some doctrines and call it religion,it's your faith and relationship with God...but to deny the existence of God because of human faults
    because of Christians who did not walk the talk, life's hardships?...for muslim extremist?because of mankind's lust for power...
    that's a bit extreme actually and most of all things doesnt turn out right 'cause most of time we make the wronf choices.but did it ever occur to you bai, nga maski pag unsa ka way ayo ang panghitabo..something good would still come out from it,sometimes even better that what what we planned? can science explain that?of course physics can, law of action and reaction...but can physics explain the thing we call "blessing in disgiuse?i call it God's faithfullness...now i'm sure the next question is God's omnimpotency, if He's all powerful then why is He not doing anything about it...
    actually He did..2000 years ago..Jesus walked on earth and bore our sins..
    and through the bible, you may deny it's holiness but certainly it's teachings about
    morality,respect and love...surpasses any human ways of living a good life..
    not to mention its precidtions that came to pass...and the book of Genesis already stated that the earth is round...long before scientists thought of it being a flat disk.
    science is just the process of determining HOW everything come to place...but the word of God is clearly the answer WHY everything came to place.people have made discoveries, that's grand but never will be enough to conclude that God does not exist, if you would look at it...those discoveries are just mere presentation of His greatness.
    going back to Einstein, may not believed in Jesus, but he sure believed there is God..again with his reputation..
    could einstein be illogical? is it possible that today's aethiests are more logical than him?
    CS Lewis was once an aetheist, but He converted to Christianity? and even became a Christian apoplogetic..
    could he be delusional?...most people would say that there's no God, 'cause of some discoveries, 'cause of life's hardships, 'cause of fake religious people...'cause they're so smart...
    yeah God is illogical of course..'cause He's way way way beyond human logic...
    and God being illogical doesn't prove that He doesnt exist.

    the universe is way too much for just a beautiful sight in the night sky..
    it's way too amazing to become an accident.
    but if it's purpose is to display God's glory then perhaps its' just about its' size...
    we havent even discovered the whole universe yet...
    but the hubble space telescope saw something in the core of the whirlpool galaxy..
    check this out: http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/i...a-full_jpg.jpg

    it's called the x structure...yep it look like the letter x but aside from that...
    it reminds us of the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...

    and check these tiny microscopic crosses inside our body, it's called laminin:
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zo1npXtFlP...0/Laminin2.jpg
    it's a cell adhesion protein molecule and without it our body cannot move a single bit..

    they could be of any form bai, but why do they form the shape of the cross? chance? maybe...and most of all maybe NOT.

  9. #1389

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    very nice bro @noy. blessings.....

  10. #1390

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    In his words from the bible. Man is inclined to reading or listening nonsense but too stubborn when it comes to the word of god.
    In a book? How did you know that book is the word of God and Qur'an, Bhagavad Gita, Sikh text, etc is not?

    Evidence for what? it is only capable to explain the material universe, beyond that specially the supernatural it cannot explained.
    Science is progressive, unlike religion which is fixed... We humans continually search for answers... And how did you know that a supernatural thing does exist?

    It's better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
    Yes it claims to know everything about our origin, our meaning why we are here and our destiny. That is our challenge. And you know, God made it simple for us, he himself provided the way. What we need to do is to believe the one that was sent and compare the rest if it could come close to his claims and personality.

    hope this may help you understand the point of christianity. You can download and listen to these free mp3s.
    Why Jesus? - Listen to Ravi Zacharias from Let My People Think
    If you were a muslim, you'd probably linked a video of an islamic prophet... For me, you just sounded like a deluded person....

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