OPEN FORUM On Free Internet (USB Modems)

[joeyeka]

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Please enlighten me.
1. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) part of Globe's regular workings of their system or network connections?
2. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) not bypassing Smart's network?
3. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) an authorized activity by Sun?
4. Is using free/paid VPN (to access the web) not preventing DMPI from imposing and/or collecting the applicable legal charges?

Bilib kaayo kong Mr. twEATer, nigahin jud siya ug oras aron maklaro jud ni.

Bitaw oi, kung serious concern jud ni para sa Telcos, giCAPS unta ni nila sa ilang Terms and Conditions ang about ani nga issue.

Pero nganong wala kaha? Tungod siguro sa dili jud illegal ang VPN no? Daghan namang nihatag ug information to support that maong likayan na nakong redundancy.

Naa ra jud ni sa kamot sa mga Telcos ang pagjustify ani.

Ibutang sa commercials sa mga Broadband sticks nga "Not for VPN use!!!!!!!! (better if all CAPS) - instead of butang2 nga UNLIMITED daw unya diay to Capped. haha!

[twEATer]

Bilib kaayo kong Mr. twEATer, nigahin jud siya ug oras aron maklaro jud ni.

Bitaw oi, kung serious concern jud ni para sa Telcos, giCAPS unta ni nila sa ilang Terms and Conditions ang about ani nga issue.

Pero nganong wala kaha? Tungod siguro sa dili jud illegal ang VPN no? Daghan namang nihatag ug information to support that maong likayan na nakong redundancy.

Naa ra jud ni sa kamot sa mga Telcos ang pagjustify ani.

Ibutang sa commercials sa mga Broadband sticks nga "Not for VPN use!!!!!!!! (better if all CAPS) - instead of butang2 nga UNLIMITED daw unya diay to Capped. haha!

Dili na makabilib bro kay it doesn't need a week to find where these terms and conditions can be found. It is readily available on their websites. Even a regular user can find the links to these terms.

Moreover, these are professionally written documents. If you happen to work in a chat support or email support, is responding in all caps allowed? No coz it may convey differently from one to another. And besides, they don't have to list all that is not allowed. The statement "but is not limited to" that you can find on their terms and conditions itself covers it all.

And since you mentioned commercials, why not create a commercial advertisements for your VPN's if it is really legal?

[twEATer]

bisan pa ug naay free na VPN access, nagbayad man gihapon ta sa Local Network Carrier kay, required baya nga naa kay maintaining balance na 1 peso, meaning required jud nga mo aplit ka ug load sa imong network para mo gana ang VPN.so dili jd ingon nga exploited jud na pag-ayo ang free VPN

Oh my gulay! What difference does it make sa exploited ug dili dyd ingun gi-exploit? So meaning if naa mdyo gi-rape will get a lower sentence sa nag-rape? Still gi-exploit gihapon d b?

[twEATer]

I'm with this!

I don't thing telcos are all unaware on this. To think they can monitor and block all access but they don't. Why? Because they can benefit at the same time. If this is illegal, VPN should be stopped eversince this was started para patas tanan, why now? Is it because of the word "free internet?", it's a good thing somebody shared his blessings. If it needs to change the phrase so be it. I understand the discussion but i hope this will end soon.

When and where in this world did it happen that sharing from illegitimately obtained a blessing? So meaning if naay open lines diha sa Sky Cable and connect to it illegitametly, then share it to my neighbors a blessing?

Tell me in details, what benefits are these telcos getting from these 70/month VPN servers? Through purchase of simcard every now and then kay cge ka-block? Through 1 peso maintaining balance? I for one won't do a business where customers would only pay me 1 peso for an infra worth billions.

[twEATer]

And please give me an intellectual answer why are these VPN acquired from different individuals other than those from telcos sharing SIM unblocking software or techniques? Hadlok ma-block coz nag-violate sa terms and conditions sa mga telcos?

[joeyeka]

Dili na makabilib bro kay it doesn't need a week to find where these terms and conditions can be found. It is readily available on their websites. Even a regular user can find the links to these terms.

- Oi, dili to sarcastic ha. Bilib jud bitaw ko kay aduna jud kay reference, means that you really are determined to prove imong claim, and I did mean that in a good way. Psst, I didn't mention week diay, peace.

Moreover, these are professionally written documents. If you happen to work in a chat support or email support, is responding in all caps allowed? No coz it may convey differently from one to another. And besides, they don't have to list all that is not allowed. The statement "but is not limited to" that you can find on their terms and conditions itself covers it all.

- Point absorbed. Ridicule rato nga part.

And since you mentioned commercials, why not create a commercials advertisement for your VPN's if it is really legal?

- Hinaot nasayod ka sa Idyom nga "read between the lines"..



And Final say nako bahin ani:

Please mga Telcos, kung illegal jud mi, i-kiha mi or kung naa moy gamayng kaluoy, ayaw lang. Instead, i-vulcate nalang inyong system aron way buslot. Kay mas gasto ug tagsa2 ming ikiha. daghan2 raba mi. hihi.

Seryoso bitaw, judgement ani kay naa ra juds mga ISP. Sa ako lang no, siguro kung kanus-a diha mu-PM sa istorya ang kaning mga gina-ingon nga kumpanya nga dapat i-extinguish na ang mga butang bahin ani nga issue, diha pa ta tangtangon.

Daghan2 man sad gud natabangan aning VPN, labi na sa pagbrowse diri sa istorya. hehe.

*pasayloa lang ko ninyo sa akong pagpanulti kung amaw-amawon. mao raning kapasidad gyud; or di kaha aron di lang ta ma-aan nga "paka-aron-ingnon"..

[twEATer]

Unya tungod kay naay mga maayong mga driver(geniuses na nkadiskobre sa hacks) nakakita ug open nga lane, gibuhatan nilag subway..

You said it yourself bro. "Hack" meaning "To modify a program, often in an unauthorized manner, by changing the code itself."
What is hack? - A Word Definition From the Webopedia Computer Dictionary

Hinaot nasayod ka sa Idyom nga "read between the lines"..

Hinaot pd nga nakasabot ka sa ako gipost. I made a statement not based on your post but it opened a different thought, so "read between the lines" does not apply. Ang different thought diha was make a commercial ads if it is legal. Hope klaro na. Thanks and good night kay work na pud ugma.

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

[Resurgence]

Ang pangutana nako ana nila: Ngano i.block man inyong sim kung dli illegal nang VPN ninyo? aber?

[Zidagger]

Seryoso bitaw, judgement ani kay naa ra juds mga ISP. Sa ako lang no, siguro kung kanus-a diha mu-PM sa istorya ang kaning mga gina-ingon nga kumpanya nga dapat i-extinguish na ang mga butang bahin ani nga issue, diha pa ta tangtangon.

*pasayloa lang ko ninyo sa akong pagpanulti kung amaw-amawon. mao raning kapasidad gyud; or di kaha aron di lang ta ma-aan nga "paka-aron-ingnon"..

Chur uy, kung kanus-a mu-PM diha pa tangtangon?

- huwaton mu-PM taga DENR una pa tangtangon mga threads nagbaligya ug endangered species?
- huwaton mu-PM si Bill Gates una pa badlungon ang mga namaligya pirated nga Windows?

Gwapo unta, latagaw lang.

[twEATer]

Ang pangutana nako ana nila: Ngano i.block man inyong sim kung dli illegal nang VPN ninyo? aber?

Ug nganu naa mismo sa ila software ang tool to unblock sim?