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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    I am not claiming to be an expert in evolution. But I know for one thing that it does not say, a living thing came from a non-living thing. It also does not say that we came from chimps, stone or fish. Please get your facts straight.
    those are not facts bro,they are speculations..you would see tons of articles about those human evolution theories in google alone. that is the reason why i'm not buying them.
    i would never get straight facts about them 'cause they have never been proven in the first place.
    even the people who proposed those ideas of human evolution would only rely on the limited datas they have.
    which again would fall in the speculation category.

    didn't darwin's theory propose that we humans came from ape?
    this link from BBC news also has theories about fish to humans,
    BBC News - Anatomical clues to human evolution from fish
    how about this one,it also shows that a non-living thing can evovle into something living
    the process is called Abiogenesis
    Abiogenesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by noy; 08-22-2012 at 06:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unDisclosed View Post
    Sus, og niingon palang ka wala ka kahibawo mas mobilib pa unta ko nimo. O dili ba hinuon tubagon nimo ang pangutana. Ngano naabot man ka sa free will (which is flawed, btw) nga ang ako pangutana ngano nagbuwag-buwag pa man ta [religious affiliation, language, social status and so on] If he is an omnipotent God, iyaha na unta giwala tanan barriers and made us one again.

    Free will is irrelevant since the focus of the issue is what the God can do, not what He allows the people to do.
    Nganu gud tawn irrelevant nang Free will nga mao man tawn nay Hinungdan sa tanan nanghitabo sa atung kalibutan. ug sa ininglis pa ang FREE WILL is the CAUSE of ALL EFFECTS

    Naa pakay pina Flawed ha..

    Ako nlan kang tubagon:
    1. Gihimu sa Ginoo ang tawo nga dunay kagawasan o freewill meaning mabuhi ang tawo sa kalibutan bisag way tabang sa Ginoo, proof ana is naay tay self sustaining earth ug atung huna huna.
    2. Kanang free will maoy naa sa tawo nga wa gani sa mga Angel sa langit.
    3. Ang atung free will TOTAL so meaning tanan mabuhat natu bisag mu pili pa ta nga di mutoo ug Ginoo.
    4. Pero ang Ginoo nihatag natu ug Choice nga if mutawag tah niya, siya maoy mudala sa atung kinabuhi.
    5. So if ang isa ka tawo magbuhat ug iyang religion, Mabuhat nah niya kay naa man siyay freewill - IF manghilabot ang Ginoo sa tawo bisag wa siya tawga, Free Will diay nah? nahulog nya iyang gi Violate iyang ghatag.
    6. So kana imung gipang mention nga "religious affiliation, language, social status" bunga na sa gibuhat sa tawo gamit iyang freewill. Gi allow na sa Ginoo kay siya may nisaad ug nihatag nga naa tay hingpit nga kagawasan para mubuhat ug bisag unsa diri sa kalibutan. Pero naay silot...

    Hope natubag na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    those are not facts bro,they are speculations..you would see tons of articles about those human evolution theories in google alone. that is the reason why i'm not buying them.
    i would never get straight facts about them 'cause they have never been proven in the first place.
    even the people who proposed those ideas of human evolution would only rely on the limited datas they have.
    which again would fall in the speculation category.
    Hay. You did not even got the gist of my post. Not buying the stories is one thing. Spreading lies and misconceptions is another.

  4. #124

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Hay. You did not even got the gist of my post. Not buying the stories is one thing. Spreading lies and misconceptions is another.
    was i spreading lies about the speculation that people have about evolution?
    people are claiming that we evolved from fish,chimps/ape or from a nonliving thing...i even editted my post for the benefit of you seeing the links that these theories are instore nowadays.
    where does spreading lies take part in my statement?
    Last edited by noy; 08-22-2012 at 07:02 PM.

  5. #125

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    Quote Originally Posted by heroimba View Post
    hehehe wala gyud ka ni tubag sa ako mga pangutana bai..Kani nlng tubaga o: Nganu lain2x mn tag RACE? Kung dli ganahan ang Ginoo og discriminasyon dapat pareha nlng unta ta tanan og RACE dba? Kung ka tubag ka ana pinaagi sa bibliya bai saludo ko nmu. Nya niingon raba tong Ginoo sa Bibliya nga ang taga Israel ra iyang people, unsa nlng kaha ta ani? hahaha
    Una, ang tawo ang nag Mugna ug Race, ang tawo nag imbento ug paagi to identify ethnicity, and ang TAwo nag himu ug division dili ang Ginoo. We came from the same Parents, from the Bible si Adan ug Eva. Nanganak sila ug nag Migrate sa lain laing part sa kalibutan so after millions of years of adaptation nausab ang Physical appearance. So nalahi ang pamanit ug porma - Then ang tawo mao ra say naghimu ug separation ana ug dili ang Ginoo kay wa tah himua sa lain lain nga source. Nganu gi allow man sa Ginoo? tungod sa Free Will o total Freedon nga iyang ghatag sa tawo.

    Mao nga pag anhi ni Jesus iyang gi tudlo ang panaghiusa kay kitang tanan gihimu sa same nga source.

    Di ko post diri ug Bersikolo gikan sa Bibliya kay klaru kaayu wa kay tuon kay sa imung pangutana wa gani kay idea about sa Creation ug sa kanang Free Will nga gihatag sa Ginoo sa tawo.

    Sayunan ka anang mu ingun ka nga Ni ingon ang Ginoo nga taga Israel ra iyang tawo - kang batman guro nang Bibliyaha imung gibasa or Chismis ra na nimu nadunggan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Hay. You did not even got the gist of my post. Not buying the stories is one thing. Spreading lies and misconceptions is another.
    and how would you deal with all those lies on the theory of evolution?

    Are You Being Brainwashed By Your Public School Science Textbooks?

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    Let me just jump in ha kay nalingaw ko.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Nganu gud tawn irrelevant nang Free will nga mao man tawn nay Hinungdan sa tanan nanghitabo sa atung kalibutan. ug sa ininglis pa ang FREE WILL is the CAUSE of ALL EFFECTS

    Naa pakay pina Flawed ha..
    So, if naay bagyo: tungod sa free will.
    Nganong gibaha? tungod sa free will.
    Ngano na-crash ang gisakyan ni Robredo? tungod sa free will.

    No argument on that. Free will is the cause of all effects. Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Ako nlan kang tubagon:
    1. Gihimu sa Ginoo ang tawo nga dunay kagawasan o freewill meaning mabuhi ang tawo sa kalibutan bisag way tabang sa Ginoo, proof ana is naay tay self sustaining earth ug atung huna huna.
    Dili ba ang bitin man ang naghatag og huna-huna kay gipakaon sila Adan ug Eba sa tree of knowledge? Dili ba gidid-an man sila sa Ginoo sa pagkaon ato?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    2. Kanang free will maoy naa sa tawo nga wa gani sa mga Angel sa langit.
    3. Ang atung free will TOTAL so meaning tanan mabuhat natu bisag mu pili pa ta nga di mutoo ug Ginoo.
    Free will, but ang di motuo niya adto sa impyerno? Giduwa-duwaan ra diay ta ani og mao na?
    Papa: anak, naa ra nimo unsa imo buhaton ha. Pwede ka dili motuo nako. But if dili ka motuo, bunalan tika. Pero pwede na.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    4. Pero ang Ginoo nihatag natu ug Choice nga if mutawag tah niya, siya maoy mudala sa atung kinabuhi.
    5. So if ang isa ka tawo magbuhat ug iyang religion, Mabuhat nah niya kay naa man siyay freewill - IF manghilabot ang Ginoo sa tawo bisag wa siya tawga, Free Will diay nah? nahulog nya iyang gi Violate iyang ghatag.
    Wala niya gi-violate kay iyaha gipasagdan but if dili motawag niya iyaha ibutang sa nagdilaab nga kalayo? FREE WILL.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    6. So kana imung gipang mention nga "religious affiliation, language, social status" bunga na sa gibuhat sa tawo gamit iyang freewill. Gi allow na sa Ginoo kay siya may nisaad ug nihatag nga naa tay hingpit nga kagawasan para mubuhat ug bisag unsa diri sa kalibutan. Pero naay silot...

    Hope natubag na.
    So, if imohang parents muslim, lagmit muslim sad ka ron. And mao na ang FREE WILL? Grabeha gud aning free will gud. Maghimo na lang ko og religion nga free will.

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    @3nzoy
    kana diay imong gituohan karon mao naman na, atheism, religion of freewill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @3nzoy
    kana diay imong gituohan karon mao naman na, atheism, religion of freewill
    LOL. I hope this is sarcasm. Otherwise, I am not sure what to think about anymore.

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    way freewill . Everything is predestined. it's all an illusion, life is a lesson you'll learn it when you're through.

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