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  1. #1201

    Default Re: Questions for the Atheists


    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    Para sure, quote nato ang wikipedia:

    Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that ANY deities exist.
    src: Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    In other words: atheism is simply the belief that ALL deities DO NOT exist.

    So relevant kaayo ning pangutanaha para sa mga atheist:

    Can you give us any scientific evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that it is IMPOSSIBLE for (any) GOD to exist?
    Logical fallacy.

    You're asking us to provide proof of a negative.

    It would be akin to asking me to provide proof that a pink unicorn does not exist.

    It should be me asking you to prove that such pink uniform does exist.


    You are the one claiming the positive...the burden of proof is on you. Do not pass on that burden to us because we are not the ones making the assertion.

    All we are doing is rejecting your assertion for lack of proof.


    mao bitaw ang tawag ana is "A"-theism because it is an anti-thesis to your assertion.

    In the first place we wouldn't be rejecting your assertion if you did not make such assertion in the first place.
    Last edited by vipvip68; 07-02-2011 at 11:43 PM.

  2. #1202

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    Quote Originally Posted by lingkwyz View Post
    Ad ignorantiam

    This is an argument from ignorance, stating that a belief is true because we can’t disprove it. It’s often made as a leap of reasoning where a person will

    Example:

    Argument: “I don’t see any evidence for the existence of God.”

    Fallacy: “If you can’t proof He doesn’t exist, than He must!”
    Actually, this applies for atheists as well:

    Atheist: (after listening to the theists' transcendental proof for God's existence) No, that is not the proof that I'm looking for. If you can't prove He exists, then He doesn't exist.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 07-02-2011 at 11:54 PM.

  3. #1203

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post

    It's funny whenever people say... si God na bahala... and the person seemingly gives up and doesn't try to help himself thinking his God will do things for him.
    Narrow minded ra kaayo ka brad... I hope not all atheist are like you. You are defining us in your own words, not on what we really are (or what you used to be but failed..).

    We don't just sit and ask food from God... and expect manna to drop from the sky. True, we sometimes say nga Si God ra ang bahala, but ang sakto nga procedure, we still do what is supposed to be done. But even if we had done our best but wala jud, then surely that is not part of His plan, or what we ask for is only to be given in due time...

    Basin ing ana ka sa una brad, mag expect langka nga tabangan ka ni God without helping yourself. Or without analyzing it if what you ask might not be possible, or that is not meant for you.

  4. #1204

    Default Re: Questions for the Atheists

    Quote Originally Posted by vipvip68 View Post
    Logical fallacy.

    You're asking us to provide proof of a negative.

    It would be akin to asking me to provide proof that a pink unicorn does not exist.

    It should be me asking you to prove that such pink uniform does exist.


    You are the one claiming the positive
    What about the claim that life comes from inorganic chemicals without the aid of any intelligence, do you have a proof for that, my atheist friends?

    If your 'pink unicorn' logic is consistent, then you should provide a proof for that statement because it is you, the atheists, who are making that claim.

    Mobahag ra ba dayon ang ikog anang inyong 'pink unicorn' kun makaagbat anang pangutana sa taas.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 07-02-2011 at 11:56 PM.

  5. #1205

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanosuke View Post

    We don't just sit and ask food from God... and expect manna to drop from the sky.
    that is one of the reasons why there are atheists....

    if you're looking for food, work for it.....
    if you're looking for it sa church, they do feeding programs on weekends....with lugaw......that's pretty much you'll gonna get.....

  6. #1206

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    Tan-awa, di ba nibahag lagi ang ikog sa 'pink unicorn'. Kanang pink unicorn, imaginary object ra man pud na, so OK lang mobahag ang ikog ana.

    So mga atheists, i-apply nang inyong pink unicorn tactic aning pangutanaha. Ayaw mo sige og double standard kay maulaw ta sa katilingban ana. It is your claim, so prove IT.

    What about the claim that life comes from inorganic chemicals without the aid of any intelligence, do you have a proof for that, my atheist friends?
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 07-03-2011 at 12:04 AM.

  7. #1207

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanosuke View Post
    Narrow minded ra kaayo ka brad... I hope not all atheist are like you. You are defining us in your own words, not on what we really are (or what you used to be but failed..).

    We don't just sit and ask food from God... and expect manna to drop from the sky. True, we sometimes say nga Si God ra ang bahala, but ang sakto nga procedure, we still do what is supposed to be done. But even if we had done our best but wala jud, then surely that is not part of His plan, or what we ask for is only to be given in due time...

    Basin ing ana ka sa una brad, mag expect langka nga tabangan ka ni God without helping yourself. Or without analyzing it if what you ask might not be possible, or that is not meant for you.
    Why don't you just go live your life , do your best and stop blaming God for everything that is happening in your life?

    Mura man gud ug.... if we pray that this happens unya it doesn't we rationalize that "it's not his plan" that's called Rationalization or Making excuses.

    Ergo, if we pray that something happens and it does happen... we then say "it's his will"... again rationalization and making excuses..

    If you calculate the probability for every situation where you pray that something happens and the end result being favorable or not, you will most likely end up with 50%. meaning your prayer is granted 50% of the time.... versus those times where you didn't pray and got what you wanted anyway...

    Man... take responsibility for your actions and realize that you have the capacity to change your lives and make your own luck.

  8. #1208

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    @ yanong_banikanhon - if i'm not mistaken, the pink unicorn is a representation of a myth......an imaginary stuff.....

  9. #1209

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    ^^ Exactly, bossing. So OK ra kun ang ikog sa pink unicorn ang mobahag. Ang dili OK is kun ang ikog sa nagsige'g gamit2x anang 'pink unicorn' as excuse ang mobahag.

    Seriously speaking, dili ba claim man sa mga atheist nga:

    Life comes from inorganic chemicals without the aid of any intelligence.
    Do you have a proof for that claim, my atheist friends
    ?

    Basin apil mo nagpatuo-tuo nga duna'y pink unicorn, ha? Ipakita ang proof aron dili mahimong 'pink unicorn' kanang inyong claim sa taas.
    Last edited by yanong_banikanhon; 07-03-2011 at 12:11 AM.

  10. #1210

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanong_banikanhon View Post
    What about the claim that life comes from inorganic chemicals without the aid of any intelligence, do you have a proof for that, my atheist friends?
    Firstly, naka prove nata that life can come from inorganic chemicals...

    Second, we've proven that the simple event of injecting an electrical pulse allows the inorganic chemicals to form life...

    Are you saying that lightning has intelligence?

    We observe these electrical storms in other planets so it is something not unique to us.

    If your 'pink unicorn' logic is consistent, then you should provide a proof for that statement because it is you, the atheists, who are making that claim.

    Mobahag ra ba dayon ang ikog anang inyong 'pink unicorn' kun makaagbat anang pangutana sa taas.
    You don't get the point.... WE Atheists are not the one making the assertion of the Pink Unicorn / God... it is you theists who are... therefore the burden of proof is upon you to prove your assertion because without proof all we have to do is reject it and we don't need to prove that your assertion does not exist.

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