What can you say about ISIS?

[Bears Grill]

When it comes to the exercise of religious tolerance, the true test comes when somebody of a different religion flexes his rights (not just worship-wise but also publication of his religious books, proselytizing, construction of churches, etc). This feature varies among Islamic countries, but the common denominator is Islamic supremacy. The non-Muslim religion cannot share the same prominence as Islam, even in the most "moderate" Islamic country you can think of. Even when Christian churches are allowed, it cannot put up a publicly visible cross that typifies the Christian church.

As for hatred towards non-Muslims, majority do not hate individual non-Muslims. However, majority would like to see a world where the Holy Law (Sharia) is supreme. In other words, they don't really hate individual non-Muslims, they just don't like the secular laws that we all live by. Is the view that adulterers should be stoned to death or that apostates should be killed agreed only within extremist/radical circles? No. Watch this video and see what a normal Sunni gathering thinks:



The goal of ISIS is to restore the Caliphate, a sort of Islamic empire that ended in the 1920s, and ultimately to Islamize the rest of the world. Once the West falls, the rest are easy pickings. That's the view of ISIS and that's probably why there are more attacks seen in the West than in Asia. They don't do Dubai or the wealthy Emirates probably because they don't want to bite the hand that feeds their operations or destroy the conduit for this funding. Who's funding ISIS, if not some wealthy donors and so-called "charities" in Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait, etc whose banking systems are perhaps also used in this process?

I think it was Muhammad who said "War is deceit" and "Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means". So we have to be skeptical about any appeasement from the mosques, every time "Allahu Akbar" goes on a rampage.

[Bears Grill]

have you heard about the successful bombings of muslim terrorist here in saudi arabia ?? do you know that saudi arabia is making great strides in stopping the plans of those terrorist ??

did you know that there was one filipina who was caught with a syrian man and she makes belts for the suicide bombers ??

the Emirate countries ?? kuwait ?? lebanon ?? qatar ?? morocco ?? jordan ??

@marius, I was trying to answer your statement (above) which suggests that there are no "successful bombings" in Saudi...and then you proceeded to name the Emirate countries. To which I answered that ISIS PROBABLY would not want to bite the hand that feeds their operations. I'm just speculating as to why ISIS hasn't gone all out against the said countries. Now that you've mentioned that rich Islamic countries are not spared from terrorist attacks...well, it's even worse than I thought. Islam seems to be bad for Muslims as well.

[ian_1983]

ISIS cuts its fighters' salaries by 50%

Leaked ISIS document: we're cutting fighter salaries in half - Vox

These is probably how it reads in the memo

To : All ISIS Fighters
From: Management

Re : Strategic Salary Realignment

As I'm sure you've all heard, we are in the midst of a corporate reorganization this year, and as part of this, in order to better align our organization to make us more competitive to our customers in the global marketplace, we've realized that certain painful steps must be taken. Each employee will be asked to take a pay-cut (to be communicated to you within the next 30 days by your Direct Supervisor or H.R. Representative).We realize this may cause hardships on you for the short term, but it's our hope that our Corporate Realignment will be complete within 24 - 36 months, at which time we will re-evaluate salary levels.

Thank you for helping make ISIS the recognized Global Leader in our industry, and know that each of you plays an important part in our Corporate Brand.

P.S. Death to America

[Bears Grill]

islam is the religion. muslim is the people.

Of course. Islam is the religion of Sunnis, Shiites, Wahabis, Sufis. But a slight disagreement on Islamic doctrines leads to bloody conflicts. So yes, Islam is also bad for Muslims in that regards.

which part of my statement that suggest that there are NO bombings in saudi

When you start your question with "Have you heard...," I thought that was a rhetorical question that had a "No" for an answer. So I interpreted it that way.

of course i have to mention the emirate countries and the other muslim countries coz you're making generalization that the muslim world is backwards in their outlook towards civilization ...

When I look at the view of the "Muslim world" towards civilization, I have to look at what the data says is representative of the "Muslim world". It's undeniable that the majority would prefer Sharia Law in the lands they live in. Al Jazeera poll shows that 81% of Arab Muslims support ISIS. A poll published in Al-Hayat news shows that 92% of Saudis believe Islamic State conforms to the values of Islam.

It is indeed disturbing. Maybe we should only worry when 100% of them hold those views?

fact : isis isn't islam. isis = terrorism.

First sentence wrong, second sentence correct. ISIS is Islamic. If I was to judge ISIS' words, actions, protocols, symbolisms...they'd score an "A" on their Islamic-ness.

but as insignificant as i am, i have to blame the USA for ISIS ... it's becoz they invaded iraq and ousted saddam. Saddam NEEDS to be a dictator for him to be able to control the tribes and the internal conflict. Before the fall of iraq we only have Al-qaeda to deal with, but now this much aggressive ISIS is born .... damn stupid USA.

Isn't that last sentence generalizing about the US? A lot of Americans were opposed to the Iraq war. I agree that Saddam was useful in that region, in that he held Iran and the Shiites in check. But I don't agree that the Caliphate movement (which is now championed by ISIS) wouldn't have come about without the Iraq invasion. Ever since the Caliphate collapsed, jihadis have been organizing to restore it. When it comes to warfare, Islam is relentless...just as Muhammad practiced it.

[yhokz101]

I learned some things about ISIS diri:

ISIS: Everything you need to know about the group - CNN.com

pero balihon nato ang ISIS = SISI... si Pnoy man jud akong ma huna2x-an na cge ug sisi.. aka boy sisi

[anggwaponi]

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Facebook COO suggests Facebook 'likes' are a good way to fight Isis
NOTE: News link courtesy of MSN.com

[Bears Grill]

@Bears Grill .... read first about Islam...read the quran from front to back and you'll know what islam is.

Come to think of it, ISIS, Al Qaeda & Boko Haram read the Quran and carried out the things they did from that playbook. In other words, we don't need to read it, these terrorists have done the reading for us.

stop watching youtube videos, stop basing your opinions on polls.

What medium can you share in order for others to view and make their judgment?

I showed Youtube video showing you what actually transpired inside a Sunni mosque with regular Sunni Muslim attendees. It turns out that the views we all think belong to the radicals were actually supported also by everyone in that mosque. You combine this with polls/surveys, and you get a picture where the majority stands on radical views like stoning adulterers to death, re-establishing the caliphate and the Islamization of our laws.

By the way, it's not just myself who express this concern...in case you haven't been keeping up with what the rest of the non-Islamic is talking about vis-a-vis ISIS and the radicals. So don't worry about me. In fact, what stains the Islamic world are not the reactionaries, it's those who can't resist their thirst for infidel blood. Not us who are just pointing those facts out. On second thought, Islam itself may be staining the Islamic world...just a thought.

coz the way you are now, you are no different from an ISIS rebel, you breed hate towards the muslims ....

ISIS cuts peoples heads off and calls for the murder of infidels. I'm only expressing worry/concern about what an earnest literal reading of their "holy" books can lead to. Big difference. It's Islam I'm criticizing more, because it's not just a religion but also a political ideology.

[Bears Grill]

^^ Like I said, ISIS have done the reading of the Quran for all of us to see. Fact: ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi has a Phd in Islamic Studies. You can't get more Islamic than that.

As for the surveys regarding support for ISIS, like I said, that came from the Qatar-based Al Jazeera which polled the question “Do you support the organizing victories of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS)?” to over 38,000 viewers. Only 19% voted "NO".

Going to the malls in Dubai or Qatar doesn't count as good investigative research. And I, as someone detached from the scene, only need to tap into the research by more qualified independent organizations that do these research and data gathering.

"Daesh" or whatever doesn't prove the real sentiments of the Islamic world. As Muhammad once said, "War is deceit". The principle of "Hudaibiyah" treaties and "Taqiyya" captures this tactic of deceit. It basically means that, in a jihad where Muslims are in a position of weakness, they should adopt the tactics of deceit...which is probably what's happening now. The Quran, Hadith and the Sura contains within it a playbook for war and terror.

Maybe you should be the one to read the Quran...and see what Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (Phd in Islamic Studies) sees. I don't assume to which religion you belong (maybe you've converted), but I understand you can't disrespect your Muslim masters there. Maybe you're right and I'm wrong. If I'm wrong about my views of Islam, then the world has nothing to worry about with regards to terrorism. Right?

[2nderemperror]

dako kaayo ni nga threat sa tanan. i mean worldwide jud.
wa ni silay ilhon nga mga nasod ug ga expect pa jud q ani
nila nga mo grabe pa jud ni sila. dako kaau ni sila ug
impact sa tanan katawhan unya sa bisang asa nga part
sa kalibutan.
kung mo buto man gani ang world war 3, ang root cause will be
religion jud kay gigamit ni nila ang religion to stand
against sa uban nation ug gigamit pud nila ang religion
para makaagni pa ug kaalyansa.
samotan pa nga ang pilipinas kay usa ka religious country,
aksyon jud tag kabalaka labi pag naa nay rumors nga
nakig-alyansa nang uban terorista sa mindanao ana nila
apan ang atong gobyerno raba ug ang mga kinadak-an sa militar
kay nag-deny pa ana nga rumors karon.

[2nderemperror]

mao ni ang sakto. nag focus sa isis and their misplace beliefs.


when putin said that he is going to nuke the area where isis is strong, i was hoping that he really would do it ... nuke those bastards out.
@2nderemperror ....... that's becoz our leader is ABNOY he has his own private agenda with the MILF and ABU ... someone should assassinate him.

d q gnahan maka-offend sa imong opinion boss maong
d q mo agree/disagree but LOL to that heheh