sorry fingolfin I rather want to know the answer now, if that's your idea of finding the solution, I advice you to change your position, better find the answer now than burn in hell.Originally Posted by fingolfin
and the way to find it is to ask these believers NOW.
What do you think is the solution then? If Kebot or any believer would answer your question, would you be satisfied? I have a huge feeling na you won't be, because you already have set notions, ideals, or "truths" that you uphold. You would be more than willing to defend it. And by the way things are going right now, someone is definitely going to rebut you--and it goes on and on and on.
... haare you sure ?? please, listen to yourself or review that thread of yours... many believers have been giving you answers... but do you believe their answers
you're even arguing their opinions.
.. if that thread of yours was done with the intention of JUST A QUESTION, then you should be satisfied with the answers of those you call the believers. But look at what you've been doing, i can see your true intentions, you're only provoking the believers and trying to act smart with all your arguements.
.. that's why i said, if you really want the answer NOW. then go die ...
.. no matter who you ask if you still don't believe, there's no point.
.. look, this topic was directed to the atheist here in istorya.net, not the atheist in general. i have to admit that there are atheist who go preach and try to get the believers denounce their Gods, well, we can't do anything about them. But there are also atheist who just keep quite and just do the thing they do and don't care or rather respect other's religion. But when asked to why, then it's but courteous to answer.
.. anyway, being an atheist for 5 years or so, it really did changed my life. I am now simply living with the simple notion of right and wrong. Or i'm living in my own morales right now. I am not governed by any commandments nor divine decree. As long as I respect others that's fine with me. I never condemn the believers.
..it's really sad seeing a believer who says that being an atheist that our life sucks. Such simple minded analysis.
come on dude, It was a challenge for them to prove their God. You think that an answer based on assumption can hold waters?
everyone is provoking everyone and everyone is trying to act smart here.
if I don't believe their answer its because they can't provide a good one. kita jud ni kaha ni sila sa Ginoo? or ingon sila tinood ng ginoo kay maoy sulti sa osa ka libro?
Creation is the evidence nga naay Ginoo? how? do these guys even know what evidence means? evidence gani kanang makita nato ba nga gikan jud niya or naay traces of ownership. if translated practically ingon ani ang evidence...you come to a crime scene...you see a knife...the family of the dead person has a suspect...karon how would you link the knife to the suspect? statements coming from the witnesses is not enough...you must question the integrity of the witnesses and their statement...what if their statements contradicts scientific laws? ...the best way to link the knife is to find traces w/c we can use to link the knife to the suspect.
anyways you have the discretion kong unsay tan-aw nimo mas maayo. I respect that. only nga wa ko ganahi sa imong solution koong unsaon pagkabalo nato kong naa bay ginoo or wala. haha.
.. there you go. you werent asking a simple question, you were merely provoking them. no offense, but i pity you with your simple mindedness over this matter. No matter how much answers they give you, you still wont believe. The believers have their faith. Respect that.
what do you mean "there you go" and "merely provoking them"? no offense, what a narrow mind you got there dude. I pity you for misrepresenting what I said. Merely huh? tsk tsk...you got to expand your mind a little bit.
oh yes they gave answers but was it based on REAL facts? I say nope.
yes I can understand faith but i was looking for evidence not faith. This is not even a matter of respect, not that I don't respect them but this is finding what is REAL and fantasy. tsk tsk...
you want me to believe there fantasy? haha, listen to yourself, no offense dude but your logical mind is slipping away.
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