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[Zirv]

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ang tinuod sa AVON ra ko bilib....

Unsay bayaran og by the thousands? Taga recruit ninyo inyo man lagi pabayaron ug 5,000++++ nya naa kunuhay products para sa imong gi bayad....Ana na diay mag promote karon? Mag promote ka gasto ka ug leaflets or brochures...Para makahalin ug product...

Kung imo gi pasabot Broker parehas sa Stock broker....mo kita na sila sa Commission wala na silay gi pangayo sa ilang customer na thousands daan usa sila maka palit ug stock...

Parehas mo palit ko ug house and lot mo ingon ba ang broker bayad sa ka nako ug $$$$$ usa ka kapalit sa house and lot....

FACT:

1. Mas dako ug commission kung naa kay ma recruit...

Sige nalang ko ug recruit para mas daghan akong kwarta....

2. Gamay ra ang commission kung mag baligya ug product...

Adto nalang ko sa mag recruit sa tao kay sayang ang horas kung baligya ug product nya gamay ra ug kita......

[Maverick18]

basta sa pra sa ako k most nga mlm nga nifollow anang binary rule and recruitment k scam na.ang luoy jud k kanang mailad nga kinaubsan na k unsaon pmn pagbawi or pagdako sa ilang kwarta nga g-invest?the binary rule runs on a exponential decay probabilty on recruiting other potential member.

And sulti uban nga mabawi ra sa products?pwee!mga products man intawn k pirteng low-class and way lami paliton.

cge, pangilad pa mo. ang gaba k d bya magsaba.muabot lng na.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Tell me unsay naka ILLEGAL ana ?

Â* Yes tell me .... wala pa kay gilatag na masulti nato ug ILLEGAL .

Mang recruit nalang ko taman sa ginhawa para maka kwarta pasagdan nalang ang product....

Â* And who said about PASAGDAN ang product ? Hehehehe ..... wala gyud lage ka nakasabot unsay PRODUCT MOVEMENT then pwerting p**aK nimo na wala man diay kay IDEA unsa na . To make the story short , wala ka naka kwarta tungod kay naka RECRUIT ka kundi kay nakabaligya ka . Karon mas daghan namaligya mas daghan ug halin right ? Mas daghan ug halin mas daghan ug credits padong nimo so diha ka naka kwarta .

THAT is the implication there....Mag dala ko ug usa ka truck nga tao para himuon ug recruit....nya daghan ako kwarta....

Â* Â*Naa kay sense but very UNREALISTIC in the real world . Do you even think in ur wildest dreams na mahitabo na ? A good and very influential MLM person can even only have a recruit of at the most 2 members a month .

Its more enticing to recruit people because mas dako ug kita versus product(kuno)

Â* Â* You have to prove that first . GIve me info on any LEGIT MLM company na mao na ang systema otherwise puro claims lang na .

And one more thing ngano kinhanlan man ug heirarchy This is what we call redtape...Pyramid may tawag ani...

Â* Because thats how it works . Dugaya ba pasabton oi ... as long as walay ILLEGAL nahitabo , so what ? Mura ka ug nangutana why there is such an ORGANIZATIONAL CHART for companies when a great CEO can handle everything ?

WORK WISE pareho kaau?

Unsay pareho...Mangayo diay ang real estate broker sa buyer para bayad sa pag recruit?

Â* LOLZ ....... hehehe ....... do you even know how REAL ESTATE BROKERS function ? Kung wala dont go there like ngano ngayo ug kwarta for recruit or unsa pa na . Bottom line for comparing them is to CONVINCE the potential customer to get the product . Sa BROKER ang property and sa MLM is ang product .


BOTTOM LINE in BUSINESS and MONEYMAKING " YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY " , kana mo sulti na naay negosyo na walay puhunan , that is BULLCRAP .

[Zirv]

SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 said:

"And who said about PASAGDAN ang product ? Hehehehe ..... wala gyud lage ka nakasabot unsay PRODUCT MOVEMENT then pwerting p**aK nimo na wala man diay kay IDEA unsa na . To make the story short , wala ka naka kwarta tungod kay naka RECRUIT ka kundi kay nakabaligya ka . Karon mas daghan namaligya mas daghan ug halin right ? Mas daghan ug halin mas daghan ug credits padong nimo so diha ka naka kwarta"


Ngano man lagi tagaan ka ug commission nga dako kung naa ka ma recruit(2 a month sa very influential MLM person)??

Why would I move a product when I can get more money by recruiting people?(Simple Logic katong usa ka truck Hyperbole ra to in Theory.....)

I have seen the scheme of MLM mas dako gyud ug bonus or incentive or points basta naa kay ma recruit its an undisputable fact...

Kung Products lang adto ko BILIB sa AVON...


Ako pasabot sa inyong heirarchy dili kanang Pareha sa General Electric, Nokia or Samsung ha kay Fortune 500 companies ni sila...What I mean is why I be under somebody kung ma maligya lang dapat patas tanan kung mag baligya...One leader the rest are salesforce....Inyo Pyramid man gyud bisag unsa-on ug drawing bisag 6 year old mo drawing....


Bottomline walay gi spend and networking for Promotion...Sila sige ug collect sa kwarta sa na-recruit....

Real Estate broking is finding a buyer for a piece of land....Inyo ang interesado nga tao mao man mo bayad para mo enter nya maka palit ug products(kuno??) nya kamo kintahay ang broker/amo nila kay network gud...Why don't you sell like sa AVON?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Ngano man lagi tagaan ka ug commission nga dako kung naa ka ma recruit(2 a month sa very influential MLM person)??

First things first , wala kay dako na COMMISSION unless nakahalin ka ug PRODUCT . Karon kung nakahalin ang recruit nimo ug PRODUCT then diha naka maka kwarta and ang recruit nimo maka kwarta pod . Just because ning recruit doesnt make u a rich man . KInahanglan mo baligya ka aron maka dako ka ug kwarta , now does the logic of 2 people selling products makes it better than 1 person selling it ?

Why would I move a product when I can get more money by recruiting people?

Bisan naay 1,000,000 ka downlines ka pero walay nilihok ana nila .... it is USELESS . An UPLINE can be a billionaire just like that from maybe 10 active downlines kay HARDWORKERS sila thru selling products .... now you will probably ask me BILYNARYO na lage ka .... how about the DOWNLINES ? Well sila MILYONARYO ra but then unsay reklamo nimo ?? MIlyonaryo na gud ka and being na mas labaw ka , di sila angay masuya nimo but be mor ethankful kay ikaw nagpasud nila .

(Simple Logic katong usa ka truck Hyperbole ra to in Theory.....)

Whatever it is , UNREALISTIC gihapon as an example .

I have seen the scheme of MLM mas dako gyud ug bonus or incentive or points basta naa kay ma recruit its an undisp**able fact...

LOLZ .. seen what ? Give me details daw of ur claims . Now comment on that ... FACTS and FIGURES ok . If ever man gani naka sulti ka ana well , not till the downlines starts to work for you . DI kay pag recruit nimo automatic siya ... nope , it doesnt work like that . So the mentality of MANGRECRUIT na lang instead of MAMALIGYA wont take effect .

Kung Products lang adto ko BILIB sa AVON...

Daghan man pod ka angay BILIBAN .... kana imong claims lang is personal preference kay kung akong igsoon pod pasultion di man siya ganahan ug AVON unya babay gud siya , quality wise .

Ako pasabot sa inyong heirarchy dili kanang Pareha sa General Electric, Nokia or Samsung ha kay Fortune 500 companies ni sila...What I mean is why I be under somebody kung ma maligya lang dapat patas tanan kung mag baligya...One leader the rest are salesforce....Inyo Pyramid man gyud bisag unsa-on ug drawing bisag 6 year old mo drawing....

LOLZ .....mao maglisod ka ug sabot kay you decline to understand it and ang systema i complicate nimo .

Bottomline walay gi spend and networking for Promotion...Sila sige ug collect sa kwarta sa na-recruit....

Hehehehe ... im pretty sure BIKTIMA ka sa usa ka PYRAMIDING SCAM kay u have such direct attack on issues like these whom the LEGIT MLM has really nothing with it . Gi generalized lang nimo .

Real Estate broking is finding a buyer for a piece of land....Inyo ang interesado nga tao mao man mo bayad para mo enter nya maka palit ug products(kuno??)

Why do you keep on insisting KUNO when there are actual PRODUCTS ? SO if you keep on insisting na KUNO then I firmly believe now na BIKTIMA gyud lage ka sa us aka SCAM and not a LEGIT MLM .

Back on the BROKER issue ... ga tuo ka na ang BROKER di bayran sa homeowner ? Ga tuo ka na ang BROKER walay komisyon ? Ga tuo ka ang BROKER basta makadagit lang ug potential HOMEOWNER basta kwarta na largo dayon.. YES !!? LOLZ .... labaw pa na sila sa tanan na mangingilad mao you are giving a wrong example for comparison purposes .

nya kamo kintahay ang broker/amo nila kay network gud...Why don't you sell like sa AVON?

Well , tan-awa pod ang MARKET nimo .... where do they want to fit in ? Sa AVON na system or AVON products or the rest of the COSMETIC PRODUCTS known to FIlipinos ? AVON dealer ba ka dodong ZIRV ? Advertisae man kaau ....

By the way , di ko MLM ha basin tuo ka na MLM ko but I do know people who are into it and I am happy for them because they deserve what they have now . Wala sila madatu tungod sa uban tao but they worked hard for it and did their homework .

[Zirv]

I know a broker receives a commission from the buyer or seller that is my example ngano ang networking dili man ingon ana...Why collect huge amounts of money to enter it?

Naay MLM mo dawat ka ug 1000 points sa ma recruit nimo....Its first hand information...I'm not into AVON but ask ko sa mga nagbaligya unsa ang pag-enter dili gyud mang collect ug huge sums of money....


Akong Pasabot Heirarchy or Pyramid....Pareha sa Carbon kuha sila ug supply sa utan...Pag baligya patas sila tanan ila dikarte nalang sa customer...Sa MLM under ko ni ku-an under ko niya....Dapat patas....Walay under....Kuha ug products niya baligya mo ug inyo....Ngano naay upline or downline...Pyramid na gyud and hitsura...

[Zirv]

I'm was never a victim of Networking....Akong brother nuon...Gi ingnan ayaw ug enter...Maayo gali wala na hurot iya kwarta...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I know a broker receives a commission from the buyer or seller that is my example ngano ang networking dili man ingon ana...Why collect huge amounts of money to enter it?

Membership .... like I said you have to spend money to make money . Bisan asa ka na negosyo . gatuo ka na ang BROKERS walay capital being brokers ? Now sa negosyo pod , aron mabawi nimo ang puhunan ( huge amounts of money according to u ) , you need to sell products aron mo kita ka . Karon ug wala ka ni kita .... ayaw basola ang MLM na gikuhaan ka ug kwarta kay imoha na siya na sala na wala ka namaligya ug ni diskarte . Bisan unsa na negosyo naa man gyud DISKARTE and MAMALIGYA ka .

Naay MLM mo dawat ka ug 1000 points sa ma recruit nimo....Its first hand information...I'm not into AVON but ask ko sa mga nagbaligya unsa ang pag-enter dili gyud mang collect ug huge sums of money....

Â* Â*1000 POINTS is what ? DI na siya KWARTA so unsay gi sakit sa dughan nimo ? That goes to being a part sa benefits nimo as a member . SO imo lage gi complicate .... ang pag enter sa AVON is di mang collect ug HUGE amounts of MONEY , small amounts lang . Now small amounts pod ang RETURN so I conclude , I am wasting my time in AVON then . Dako ka ug puhunan , dako ka ug return in profit . BUSINESS 101 .

Akong Pasabot Heirarchy or Pyramid....Pareha sa Carbon kuha sila ug supply sa utan...Pag baligya patas sila tanan ila dikarte nalang sa customer...Sa MLM under ko ni ku-an under ko niya....Dapat patas....Walay under....Kuha ug products niya baligya mo ug inyo....Ngano naay upline or downline...Pyramid na gyud and hitsura...

Â*FYI info , PYRAMID man gyud ni siya , it was designed and proven to work but then be aware of the difference lage sa LEGIT MLM and PYRAMIDING SCAMS . Period , no more no less . Ug mo ingon ka ug patas , waste of time na pod na siya .

Ug unsay ngalan sa NETWORKING COMPANY na gi apilan sa igsoon nimo na hapit mahurot kwarta niya ?

[Zirv]

1,000 points its incentive you collect the points and pile it up.....and get cash....so Recruitment is more enticing...Gi ilis ra ug points na ma himo ra man ug cash dali kaayo...(could be deceiving)


I know kinhanlan pagawas ug kwarta....Why don't i get the product and sell it......Why do I have to give up a huge sum of money to be a member...okay unta nga stocks to para stockholder nako...that is investment or Venture Capital....I invest huge money to be a member dapat shareholder ko with dividends every year dili lang baligya sa products which is another income

With AVON you can order 1 truck of bras and sell it sa province...Its not that small....

Why waste of time....Nadala man gali sa Carbon....So sa MLM naa gyud gusto naa sa taas nya luoy kaayo ang sa ubos....Mao diay ni ang dili waste of time...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

1,000 points its incentive you collect the points and pile it up.....and get cash....so Recruitment is more enticing...Gi ilis ra ug points na ma himo ra man ug cash dali kaayo...(could be deceiving)

Â* That is another STARTEGY maybe because not all LEGIT MLM's have that incentives yet why coudnt you agree with the point system ?

I know kinhanlan pagawas ug kwarta....Why don't i get the product and sell it

OK lets say you get the product ..... ngano anha man ko mo palit nimo na mahal man baligya nimo ? Give me a good reason na mo palit gyud ko nimo beh . Compared to selling it by volume , mas cheaper siya w/c I dont think so na mo sulti pod ka na mamaligya ka by volume , now if you can afford to do that then why bother whine about money making when you are actually a money maker already kung ma afford na nimo .

......Why do I have to give up a huge sum of money to be a member...okay unta nga stocks to para stockholder nako...that is investment or Venture Capital....I invest huge money to be a member dapat shareholder ko with dividends every year dili lang baligya sa products which is another income

And potentially could lose it also . We are talking about MOVEMENT in here right ? Kana imo gi sulti ga lingkod ra man ka ana and it takes yes , takes more than the averager5,000 PHp investment amount as a share . SInsiyo ra na bai ang singko mil kung atong storyahan stocks .

With AVON you can order 1 truck of bras and sell it sa province...Its not that small....

And comes back with what ?

Why waste of time....Nadala man gali sa Carbon....So sa MLM naa gyud gusto naa sa taas nya luoy kaayo ang sa ubos....Mao diay ni ang dili waste of time...

Â* Hehehehe ..... kung ikaw ang DOWNLINE nako , kinahanglan mo kuha pod ka ug potential hardworking recruits aron di ka magpabilin sa ubos . SO asa ang waste of time diha , now kung wala ka ni lihok then kana nag waste of time ka . Kinsay ga ingon na LOOY ang naa sa ubos ? Walay ubos na LOOY oi .... TAPULAN daghan kay ga tuo sila na ang kwarta naay TIIL , mo lakaw padong nila , w/c mao cguro nahitabo sa igsoon nimo .