Toyota Hilux VS. Mitsubishi Strada

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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@SPRINGFIELD_XD_40,vipvip,predo and etc. sorry if para inyo im misleading or gi-wani nko ang mga tao sa ASTC sa strada and sa moose test which dili jud mao akong reason. yes, i posted a pic from a philippine based car mag sa kato strada with 4 stars with the moose, just makes me wonder why gi-butangan nila ug moose na wala man ASTC ang phil. version strada. hmm research nya pod ko ani. peace !

Bro actually it might sound like it was for you though in an indirect way but iys not . My point is , People should buy the STRADA because of what it offers . Moose test or not , we are in the Philippines . What strucked me though was when someone says dont buy a HILUX because you'll end up in the HOSPITAL or 6 FEET DOWN UNDER . Thats just cold and wrong .

[predo]

13thProphet: I think maka free cla ug Paint Protection. Hangyoa gyud ug maayo. heheheh

@kenny_tiu7 Cguro mas stable ang Strada sa Hilux, pero it doesnt mean na maka patay ang hilux. As Vipvip said prone to rollover gyud ang taas nga sakyanan. Vehicles have pros and cons, depende rana kung unsaon nimo pag gamit ang sakyanan. Lets say Hilux is more on the Rugged-Hauler type of pick up and Strada is more on Comfort-City driving. Hope ull agree wid me this time.

[kenny_tiu7]

Bro actually it might sound like it was for you though in an indirect way but iys not . My point is , People should buy the STRADA because of what it offers . Moose test or not , we are in the Philippines . What strucked me though was when someone says dont buy a HILUX because you'll end up in the HOSPITAL or 6 FEET DOWN UNDER . Thats just cold and wrong .

13thProphet: I think maka free cla ug Paint Protection. Hangyoa gyud ug maayo. heheheh

@kenny_tiu7 Cguro mas stable ang Strada sa Hilux, pero it doesnt mean na maka patay ang hilux. As Vipvip said prone to rollover gyud ang taas nga sakyanan. Vehicles have pros and cons, depende rana kung unsaon nimo pag gamit ang sakyanan. Lets say Hilux is more on the Rugged-Hauler type of pick up and Strada is more on Comfort-City driving. Hope ull agree wid me this time.

yup, but im sure myself wa ko ni ingon ana ako promote lng ko sa strada

[kenny_tiu7]

asked my friend which is connected sa mmpc manila and also did my research here are OUR findings but amu rani opinion

the picture u attached is an AD by Mitsubishi Motors Philippines to promote the Strada- not an article by Top Gear. it was also shown in the newspaper and other magazines as well.

yes, i did see the strada vs hilux moose test at youtube. firstly what we need to consider is:

1. did the strada REALLY come with ASTC at that time of testing? according to some of the websites of MMC Sweden and the EU, it is possible that it may have. in fairness, i think it would be unfair if the strada came with ASTC while the hilux didn't.

note: view the swedish website of MMC: Välkommen till Mitsubishi Motors!- Mitsubishi Motors Sverige
and the european union website of MMC:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors-euro.co...ecab/technical


2. i'm also considering that mitsubishi didn't say anything about "ASTC" during the video- despite it being explained in swedish. so this may mean that the strada may not have the ASTC in the first place and still fare well in the test. in otherwords, g-dudahan lng sa toyota

3. This is Theoretical: although this is off topic, but the strada was also rated 4 stars for the frontal collision tests for NCAP- so IMO, if MMC is consistent with their product development from this, then i think it would be consistent with the moose test- with or without the ASTC.

Take note also that the Strada in the EU region has some excusive upgrades- this includes the Super Select 4WD as compared to the Easy Select 4WD that we have.


e check pa daw sa ako migo kay he may have a friend who is connected with the EU headquarters of MMC last time he contacted him was last year pa! il try to see if i can get in touch with him regarding this and will keep u posted.

[TAMB0K]

i asked a mitsu agent and he said its not ASTC that will prevent a rollover because astc is merely for traction and spin prevention, what prevents rollovers are the state of the art stabilizer bars developed by mitsubishi that are more efficient than that of toyota hiluxes..

i did a research long time ago about ASTC actually its M-ASTC which is a feature on Pajeros and it didn't said anything about preventing rollovers, merely said it distributes power to the wheels in roughest road conditions for more grip.

[predo]

i asked a mitsu agent and he said its not ASTC that will prevent a rollover because astc is merely for traction and spin prevention, what prevents rollovers are the state of the art stabilizer bars developed by mitsubishi that are more efficient than that of toyota hiluxes..

i did a research long time ago about ASTC actually its M-ASTC which is a feature on Pajeros and it didn't said anything about preventing rollovers, merely said it distributes power to the wheels in roughest road conditions for more grip.

naa ghapon na sya effect. it will prevent ghapon rollover kay mo prevent man sya oversteer.

[vipvip68]

i asked a mitsu agent and he said its not ASTC that will prevent a rollover because astc is merely for traction and spin prevention, what prevents rollovers are the state of the art stabilizer bars developed by mitsubishi that are more efficient than that of toyota hiluxes..

i did a research long time ago about ASTC actually its M-ASTC which is a feature on Pajeros and it didn't said anything about preventing rollovers, merely said it distributes power to the wheels in roughest road conditions for more grip.

Stability control prevents rollovers.... If a vehicle with a high center of gravity slides sideways... it will likely rollover... ASTC prevents this.

[TAMB0K]

its not ASTC, but the stabilizers

Read here: Stabilizer bars are sometimes also called anti-sway bars or anti-roll bars. Their purpose in life is to try to keep the car's body from "rolling" in a sharp turn.

Think about what happens to a car in a sharp turn. If you are inside the car, you know that your body gets pulled toward the outside of the turn. The same thing is happening to all the parts of the car. So the part of the car on the outside of the turn gets pushed down toward the road and the part of the car on the inside of the turn rises up. In other words, the body of the car "rolls" 10 or 20 or 30 degrees toward the outside of the turn. If you take a turn fast enough, the tires on the inside of the turn actually rise off the road and the car flips over.

source: HowStuffWorks "How do stabilizer bars work?"

[vipvip68]

Stabilizer bars and suspension settings are a factor so are wheel size and pressure. These are all passive features.

Stability control is also a big factor... you are wrong when you say ASTC doesn't help avoid rollovers. ASTC actively controls your car by distributing the brake force and traction so you don't loose control and spin out or slide off.

You said with ASTC you have SPIN PREVENTION.... when an SUV or Pickup Spins... it slides on its side... this lateral motion causes rollovers as vehicles with high CG are more likely to tip on its side...

Why don't you ask an engineer instead of an agent... they will tell you what's what instead of trying to convince you that their car doesn't need a particular feature.

Klaro kaayo imong argument.... you even thought naay ASTC ang Strada diri...now that you found out walay ASTC ang Strada... you're trying to rationalize by saying that ASTC is not a factor.... hahahah.

Electronic Stability Control Prevents SUV Rollovers - How ESC Saves Lives

[predo]

If u check the kind of suspension the Hilux and Strada has parihas ra cla bro naa gihapon stabilizer bar. Ang manufacturer lang mo pili kung wat kind of suspension(mc pherson, torsion, double wishbone,...) ilang design na tan-aw nila maayo sa unit.

Stability control helps the car to be more safer to drive like ABS, EBD,...