Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[kenites]

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. WHAT'S WRONG WITH SAYING "I DON'T KNOW"?

Mao jud

[Peenut]

After the other animals

Genesis 1:25-27
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and the cattle after their kind ... And God said, Let us make man ... So God created man in his own image.


Before the other animals

Genesis 2:18-19
And the Lord God said it is not good that man should be alone; I will make a help-meet for him. And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them.


EXPLAIN!

Indeed contradicting.

[redhorse1L]

@orcgod
From going in circles, to conflicting reasons, what's up next?

Can you find in my statement that I say SCIENCE = ATHEISM, and ATHEISM = SCIENCE?
You can be an Atheist and not believe in SCIENCE,or Atheist who believes in Science, who cares, wa gyuy maka buot nimo. naa rana nimo. But we never say ATHEIST = SCIENCE.

Naa diay tarong nga Atheist karon nga dili mo-too Science? unsa man gitoohan ana? Ginoo? Teletubbies?
We are talking about the origin of universe here. Unsa pa man diay laing reason besides Science and Religion?

Check you previous posts:
https://www.istorya.net/forums/7573242-post1096.html

oh, youre a Theist? you believe in Science and God? its like mixing oil and water.
Creationist - earth is 10,000 yrs old.
Atheist - earth is billions of years old.
Theist - how old do you think the earth is?

Remember what you said on the Jews and Nazis?

Kung sa Gubat pa, ikaw ang klaro nga talawan. playing safe. if there are 2 camps in war, say; Nazi and Jews. either your a Nazi, or your a Jew. In your case
your a Nazi Jew? you gotta be kidding me.

Though you haven't said it explicitly, it is very clear that you are contrasting Science and God. You're saying its a war between them.
From your own perspective:
1. If I believe in Science(Nazi), then I should NOT believe in God(Jews).
2. If I believe in God(Jews), then I should NOT believe in Science(Nazi).

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So AGAIN, why would you believe in a GOD and NOT believe in a BIBLE?
Who says I don't believe in the Bible?
I believe in the Bible when it says God Created all things.
I do believe that the earth is 4 billion yrs old.
I believe in the Big Bang that happened some 14Billion years ago.
Like I said before, you don't take the Bible literally (like the creation in 7 calendar days).
And again, IT IS NOT WRITTEN AS A SCIENTIFIC BOOK!
What you read in Genesis was written by a 2000BC prophet, so you cannot demand a scientific narrative from him.

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dont you know that you automatically agreeing in a FANTASY BIBLE when you believe there is GOD?
where did you get that kind of idea?
I can believe in God and the same time believe in Quoran, or Book of Mormon, or no books at all.
What we are talking here is that there is Beyond a physical world, a supernatural being could have made all things.
Because without that, you will have an invalid logical reasoning (an infinite past or something that comes from nothing)
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The VATICAN has BIASED Science Academy. Church doesnt RESPECT Science,
Have you checked the link I gave you? Pontifical Academy of Sciences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Biased? Its members are from different beliefs and cultures: theist, atheist, christian, islam, hindu, etc...
Stephen Hawkings was even a member.
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if Church respects Science, then CHURCH couldve agreed that the EARTH is BILLIONS of years, but no.
Where have you read that? I already given you link: Big Bang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pope Pius XII, declared at the November 22, 1951 opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences that the Big Bang theory accorded with the Catholic concept of creation.

That is my stand all along. Haven't you realized that?
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There we go "So it does not necesarilly mean that it needs a supernatural intervention for a star to be born". Now why in your delusional mind would you believe that there is GOD?

Please read my post again about the seed planted on the ground.
Like I've said, Science is right when it says that the origin of the universe started in a Big Bang. From there, stars, comets, and other heavenly bodies are formed.
What the Big Question is: What was it before the Big Bang?
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I think its the other way around. People who believe in GOD are ILLOGICAL. why? because your GOD is IMAGINARY, NOT REAL. Got it?
Oh really? and what do you call an infinite past? or a simple forms of Gas and Dust that comes from nothing? Who's illogical now?
An infinite past of physical things IS IMAGINARY, NOT REAL. You don't agree with it? Then Prove it!

[su.mo_kibot]

science......

[su.mo_kibot]

relax lng redhorse haha

[my_boo]

Para nako Bible ko.

[jinkazama92]

SCIENCE!!!!

There's a lot of evidence from the large variety fields in Zoology, Geology, Paleontology, and Anthropology that Evolution exists. Fossils alone are firm enough to be a good evidence that Evolution is right, not Creationism. I believe that there is a god but I don't believe the concept of Creationism in the Bible. If Creationism exists, can you explain the existence of dinosaurs? Clearly, there were no dinosaurs boarded on Noah's Ark.

Have you ever wondered that maybe evolution is part of god's creation?

[jinkazama92]

Im really sick of you athiests and non-believers. The bottomline question is, how did the Beginning BEGIN.
i know my answer to this bottomline question. but im not gonna say it coz you atheists and non believers are gonna shoot back the same crap i have read in this 80 page thread.

go ahead and take your existance for granted.

[emjee17]

tuo ko sa Bible pero when it comes to scientific explanation, mahug ra na silag further discussion or supporting details.

[orcgod]

@ redhorse1L
From going in circles, to conflicting reasons, what's up next?

Can you find in my statement that I say SCIENCE = ATHEISM, and ATHEISM = SCIENCE?
You can be an Atheist and not believe in SCIENCE,or Atheist who believes in Science, who cares, wa gyuy maka buot nimo. naa rana nimo. But we never say ATHEIST = SCIENCE.

Naa diay tarong nga Atheist karon nga dili mo-too Science? unsa man gitoohan ana? Ginoo? Teletubbies?
We are talking about the origin of universe here. Unsa pa man diay laing reason besides Science and Religion?

Ah yes, Gotcha! now your generalizing Atheists. That means you dont have a clue what Atheism is all about. LOGIC says, Atheism is not Science, nor Science is to Atheism, but Atheist happens to Love Science. Atheist is a person WHO DOESNT BELIEVE IN A GOD, and somewhere along the way, came Science, and Atheist was so inlove with Science because of its RAW evidence.

However, Atheist stumbled upon a group of Creationist, which is so totally opposite. But then, came another group a Theist! yes, a Theist, this group is confuse, and fantasize of standing in both grounds, because they are so confuse. They try so hard to connect their Imaginary God to Science, that even them cannot understand why They believe in God and Bible, and Believe also in Science.

So Theists believe in God and Bible, which the earth is 10,000 years old. But Theist also believe in Science, which the earth is Billions of years old. Now who is Confused? Atheist or Theist?


Check you previous posts:
https://www.istorya.net/forums/7573242-post1096.html


Remember what you said on the Jews and Nazis?

yeap I remember. And ill explain again, why you cant seem to understand LOGIC. You can be a Atheist and not believe in SCIENCE,or Atheist who believes in Science, who cares, wa gyuy maka buot nimo. naa rana nimo.

Meaning, WALAY MAGBUOT NIMO, dodong San Miguel. Bahal unsa imo tuhoan, Naa rana nimo. Pero Oil and Water cant mix, thats why you yourself i- EVALUATE ang imong Gi-tuhoan kung sakto bana ug dili.

Science tells you cant Combine both elements. Pero as humans, you yourself can imagine, and hallucinate, and no one can stop you. So kasabot naka?


Though you haven't said it explicitly, it is very clear that you are contrasting Science and God. You're saying its a war between them.
From your own perspective:
1. If I believe in Science(Nazi), then I should NOT believe in God(Jews).
2. If I believe in God(Jews), then I should NOT believe in Science(Nazi).

Yes, this is true. but dont take my examples as absolute, kay it will only show how weak your LOGIC is. My point in my examples are you cant COMBINE two opposite worlds.

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So AGAIN, why would you believe in a GOD and NOT believe in a BIBLE?
Who says I don't believe in the Bible?
I believe in the Bible when it says God Created all things. - so you believe in Bible - earth 10, 000 yrs old.

I do believe that the earth is 4 billion yrs old. - then you believe that earth is 4 billion yrs old


Wahahaha, so KINSA MAN ang GALIBUG natong duha? wahahahahaa!

I believe in the Big Bang that happened some 14Billion years ago. - but you believe in the BIBLE man kaha? Hala naglibug na si Redhorse.

Like I said before, you don't take the Bible literally (like the creation in 7 calendar days). - hala naglibug na jud ka Dodong Red Horse. Creationists believe that earth was created 7 days, thats why their Earth is only 10,000 yrs old. So ikaw nga Galibug kung asa ka, pag SURE NA OI!


And again, IT IS NOT WRITTEN AS A SCIENTIFIC BOOK! - Again, who says its a Scientific Book!


What you read in Genesis was written by a 2000BC prophet, so you cannot demand a scientific narrative from him.

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dont you know that you automatically agreeing in a FANTASY BIBLE when you believe there is GOD?
where did you get that kind of idea? wahaha, ako copy paste ha. "Who says I don't believe in the Bible?" - mao ni imo tubag ay, wahahhaa. hunong sa ug inom redhorse uy.


I can believe in God and the same time believe in Quoran, or Book of Mormon, or no books at all.
What we are talking here is that there is Beyond a physical world, a supernatural being could have made all things. - thats why your a candidate to mental hospital na lagi.


Because without that, you will have an invalid logical reasoning (an infinite past or something that comes from nothing)

Thats why I ask you, if an infinite past comes from a beginning, is that beginning a WHAT or a WHO?



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There we go "So it does not necesarilly mean that it needs a supernatural intervention for a star to be born". Now why in your delusional mind would you believe that there is GOD?

Please read my post again about the seed planted on the ground.
Like I've said, Science is right when it says that the origin of the universe started in a Big Bang. From there, stars, comets, and other heavenly bodies are formed.
What the Big Question is: What was it before the Big Bang?
===============================

I think its the other way around. People who believe in GOD are ILLOGICAL. why? because your GOD is IMAGINARY, NOT REAL. Got it?
Oh really? and what do you call an infinite past? or a simple forms of Gas and Dust that comes from nothing? Who's illogical now? -
haha, again, your the one who needs to check on my posts, WE as humble Science Enthusiasts, are humble and patient enough to study the very origins of simple Gas and Dust, it may take a while, but we are not Crazy and Delusional enough to jump into conclusions without hard evidence.


An infinite past of physical things IS IMAGINARY, NOT REAL. You don't agree with it? Then Prove it!

Then your IMAGINARY GOD comes in.. right? haha, who's imagining things now?
Again, copy paste ta....WE as humble Science Enthusiasts, are humble and patient enough to study the very origins of simple Gas and Dust, it may take a while, but we are not Crazy and Delusional enough to jump into conclusions without hard evidence.