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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    When a local case of electoral fraud is attributed to GMA by the right hand man of Ampatuan and the mastermind of the massacre they call it ELECTORAL SABOTAGE.

    When a justice secretary disregards an order from the SC, an FPJ election lawyer can vote on a GMA related Comelec case and mysteriously sends it to the Pasay RTC "misbehaving" judge instead of the Sandiganbayan; and when that judge takes only two hours to read 8 binders of documents to read, they call it JUSTICE. This is the same judge who was sanctioned by the SC for SLOW justice. In an SC resolution issued June 18, 2008, Mupas was sanctioned for failing to take appropriate action on a case filed before... Court records showed that the complainant charged Mupas with dereliction of duties, grave misconduct, manifest partiality, violation
    of the Constitution and of the Anti-graft and Corrupt Practices Act.


    When a president has done nothing but to play a blame game on everything that is wrong in our country to the previous administration yet takes credit for the economic gain weeks into office; when he absolves his advisers, KKK from any wrongdoing without any investigation (AK47, Torres etc..), when his economic mismanagement and lack of vision is shielded by a biased media they call him THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER.

    Good luck to all of us.

    By that alone klarex na kaayu na bayaran ang judge...
    kwarta gipadagan ani! diretso pirma way basahay!

    Tama jud ka bro... unsaon man ning uban nato na kababayan..
    mag pa tonto man.. padala sa media hype..
    pag admin na masayup pa buta/bungol dayun!

    Dapat ma preso pod si de-lima...then we'll call its quits.. and no bias!
    ...pero unsaon...sa kontra partido raman ang "justice" daw!
    paeta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    Whether GMA goes to prison or not should not be the concern here. The truth has to come out but under lawful conduct. It is not an issue if the administration can prove she is guilty or not. This is. I suppose its alright to deliberately curtail laws now, since our leaders have shown that its alright. This will take precedence, again, and again, and again.
    Sadly, that has always been the norm here in this country ruled by oligarchs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiybordwaryur View Post
    By that alone klarex na kaayu na bayaran ang judge...
    kwarta gipadagan ani! diretso pirma way basahay!

    Dili lang siguro kwarta bro, basin gi-saadan pa gyud to ang judge nga himo-on associate justice sa supreme court or court of appeals, or di ba kaha Usec. sa any Dept. later on. Pangagpas lang ning ako ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiybordwaryur View Post
    By that alone klarex na kaayu na bayaran ang judge...
    kwarta gipadagan ani! diretso pirma way basahay!

    Tama jud ka bro... unsaon man ning uban nato na kababayan..
    mag pa tonto man.. padala sa media hype..
    pag admin na masayup pa buta/bungol dayun!

    Dapat ma preso pod si de-lima...then we'll call its quits.. and no bias!
    ...pero unsaon...sa kontra partido raman ang "justice" daw!
    paeta!
    Mao jud. Kung ma-priso man si GMA or not, Ma-kasohan jud unta na si De Lima, even if what she was doing was, in her discourse, right--what she did was Contempt. Say whatever you want but the government violated a right! No TRO was needed. No case was filed. No stipulation in the constitution grants power to de Lima to block GMA from leaving to Singapore. And many people don't care whether a right was violated, as long as they get what they want, what they think is "right".
    If we as a society do not believe the final arbiter of the law, what does that make us? a mob? Justice should be conducted within the bounds of the law. What a "right" in a person's mind might not be the "right" as contemplated by law, because "right" is subjective. In the end, it's the law that should prevail. Furthermore, the law emanates from morals and customs, so it must be respected at all cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    Mao jud. Kung ma-priso man si GMA or not, Ma-kasohan jud unta na si De Lima, even if what she was doing was, in her discourse, right--what she did was Contempt. Say whatever you want but the government violated a right! No TRO was needed. No case was filed. No stipulation in the constitution grants power to de Lima to block GMA from leaving to Singapore. And many people don't care whether a right was violated, as long as they get what they want, what they think is "right".
    If we as a society do not believe the final arbiter of the law, what does that make us? a mob? Justice should be conducted within the bounds of the law. What a "right" in a person's mind might not be the "right" as contemplated by law, because "right" is subjective. In the end, it's the law that should prevail. Furthermore, the law emanates from morals and customs, so it must be respected at all cost.
    I agree with you, De Lima should should also be held liable for her actions. That is, if they are really serious with their Tuwid na Daan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voldemort View Post
    I agree with you, De Lima should should also be held liable to her actions. That is, if they are really serious with their Tuwid na Daan.
    Yes, that would be one way to set the record straight for the PNoy Administration. Nobody is above the law bah.

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    Rushed
    By: Solita Collas-Monsod
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    12:41 am | Saturday, November 19th, 2011

    As I write this, it seems that everything is over but the shouting. A warrant of arrest has been issued against Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, and unless Pasay Regional Trial Court Judge Jesus Mupas allows it, or maybe even the Supreme Court, she will no longer be able to seek medical treatment abroad for her bone condition (discovered after her operation), which apparently cannot be treated here for lack of local medical expertise.
    What is my basis for the statement that there is no local medical expertise available? I heard it from St. Luke’s Hospital’s president Jose Ledesma during the 21st annual convention of the Association of Health Maintenance Organizations of the Philippines, where he was keynote speaker, and I was a plenary speaker. So at least 200 other people (my estimate of the attendees) heard it too. After he made that statement during a Q&A period, I asked him in public when the condition was discovered, and he answered that it was discovered after the operation(s). I then pressed on and asked whether that meant that Arroyo really needs to seek the required treatment abroad—but he in effect clammed up, and said that it had become a political issue.
    It is unfortunate that when Arroyo claims that her condition is life-threatening, what is thrown back at her by the Department of Justice are the certifications of her doctors (attending physician and surgeon) that she will recover from her operation within three to six months. Ergo, administration officials claim, there is no life-threatening situation. Excuse me, recovering from an operation is not the same as facing a life-threatening (or a quality-of-life-threatening) condition.
    But of course, all the above was really not the issue. The issue was whether, absent formal charges filed in court against her that would result in a warrant for her arrest or a hold departure order, she had the right to travel for whatever reason. And again of course, the answer to that has to be a resounding yes.
    In any case, the denial by the Supreme Court of the government’s motion for reconsideration on the TRO is to all intents and purposes moot and academic, given the formal charges filed against her.
    Doing some Monday-morning quarterbacking, it is clear that the intransigence of Justice Secretary Leila de Lima was because she was desperately waiting for the Commission on Elections to do what she couldn’t do, which was to file charges of “electoral sabotage” against Arroyo, apparently based on the report of the Comelec lawyers who, jointly with the DOJ, conducted a fact-finding investigation and then a preliminary investigation. And the Comelec finally came through. As of this writing, Judge Mupas, to whom the case was raffled, has apparently issued a warrant of arrest against her.
    “Electoral sabotage,” although introduced only in the election automation law of 2007, is a very serious charge, a capital crime, actually, because it carries with it a penalty of life imprisonment—and therefore non-bailable when evidence of guilt is strong. So, it is entirely possible that if arrested, the former president would go straight to detention, or at least be under hospital or house arrest. And presumably, there will be much celebration on President Aquino’s side of the fence, because it has been reported that the latter vowed that Arroyo would be in jail by the end of the year. (I must report though that while I have read accounts where members of the Arroyo camp claim that P-Noy made this vow, I have not found any quotes attributable to P-Noy, or news reports to the effect that he made this promise.)
    What I find disturbing, however, is the rush by the Comelec to file charges, particularly since it is supposed to be an independent constitutional body, not a Malacañang lackey. Consider the following timeline:
    On Aug. 15, 2011, in a five-page joint order signed by De Lima and Comelec Chair Sixto Brillantes, the DOJ and the Comelec created the joint preliminary investigation committee and the joint fact-finding team regarding the allegations of electoral sabotage against Arroyo and others. I don’t know what that order contained, but on the face of it, creating the two bodies at the same time must carry with it the assumption that the fact-finding team was going to find facts that would lead to a preliminary investigation.
    On Oct. 21, 2011, according to De Lima, the fact-finding team was to have submitted their report, forwarding it to the joint preliminary investigation committee. I was unable to secure a copy of the fact-finding team’s report, but from the news reports, it seemed to me that everything was hearsay, until Oct. 11, when former Maguindanao Gov. Andal Ampatuan Sr.’s chief aide, Norie Unas, revealed that he had overheard Arroyo ordering Ampatuan to deliver a 12-0 vote for the administration candidates in 2007. That was the only eyewitness account (and Ampatuan has just called Unas a liar and denied that the conversation took place).
    On Nov. 14, or five days ago, the joint preliminary investigation committee completed its investigation.
    On Nov. 16, per the Comelec chair, he received a copy of the report of the Comelec lawyers involved in the investigation, and its recommendations. Note: Only two days elapsed between the time of completion of the investigation and the recommendations.
    On Nov. 17, the Comelec en banc voted to file charges against Arroyo, with two commissioners refusing to sign because they had not read the report.
    Does that sound rushed or not?

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/17563/rushed

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    bisag dili pa lalison ni bisan kinsang abogadoha, dili ma lalis nga ang wala napasaka nga KASO in MONTHS, napa saka in HOURS. gi unsa pag himo? one more thing I've noticed. dali kau na raffle ang kaso sa mga judges whereas, katong kaso ni Ecleo pwerteng dugaya naka raffle kung kinsa nga judge ang mo gunit. dili ka matingala?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voldemort View Post
    I agree with you, De Lima should should also be held liable for her actions. That is, if they are really serious with their Tuwid na Daan.
    sus, dili nlang ko mag laom ug sanction for De Lima. P'Noy will protect his MOST HARDWORKING cabinet member. Hardworking in the sense nga siya na DOJ Sec, Judge, Sheriff, Court Clerk, Lawyer et,al.

    SIYA NA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elvishtattoo View Post
    bisag dili pa lalison ni bisan kinsang abogadoha, dili ma lalis nga ang wala napasaka nga KASO in MONTHS, napa saka in HOURS. gi unsa pag himo? one more thing I've noticed. dali kau na raffle ang kaso sa mga judges whereas, katong kaso ni Ecleo pwerteng dugaya naka raffle kung kinsa nga judge ang mo gunit. dili ka matingala?
    wa nay due-process2x...basta sentiments na gani, pwede nag walay jurisprudence. Very reminiscent of the Spanish Inquisition.

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