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  1. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by jheartfred
    dude lets play it simple:

    1. the gurl had 6 on the book, now she wants to settle. didnt she said these to the 2nd or 3rd or 4th that she wants to settle??
    and how could you be so sure this is going to be the same? aint that judging her already just because she had 6 past sexual relationships? Man, I dont play God

    2. we have a friend here that wants to hear our sides. lets not add up to the burden and argue because we want to prevail right.
    you see, he asked for opinions, and mine doesnt sit well with him, that's fine, and Im entitled to post what I think, this is a free forum I suppose with me not being restricted to respond to his query. You see, Opinions are opinions, what I have actually presented are not in any way suggestive of what he should do, Did I all sound too righteous? It's not just esboss who is involved in this, the girl too. It's between them, Im not privy to the issue
    3. we are human right, but we dont consider priest ordinary. they went to seminary for it... they went to alot to be full pledge servant of GOD. if we just let them do it and say human ra japon sila... then what would it mean to the new generation... think of others... lucky us we were born that Christianity is not like what pedro calungsod and others lived up with... they weren't allowed to served the lord... got that!
    some priests are as ordinary as myself, as you may have also known. Did I say nga sakto ila gibuhat? I have always maintained I am in no moral authority to judge that. Kana gud, satsat ta ki satsat, diay to walay gipasaka nga reklamo against the priest. While I agree daghan Catholics maoffend ana(am also Catholic by the way), one mistake sa pari, or one priest for that matter do not represent my faith. Problema usahay nato atong idasok tanan embodiment sa ato faith sa priest.

    4. i wont say to not go for her or go for her. i like to weigh things that might happen soon.. karon puno pa ug love but what if mapul-an na sad ang gurl? daun mo ingon ra ka na imo bitaw na choice hmmmm... be pathetic man!
    and I never said there was no risk that could happen, bai, as long as buhi ka, there are risks with whatever choices you make, maskin gani moinom ka tubig piligro mamatay ka if machoke ka. Bai, dili ba kaha ironic that you are saying that you are not telling our friend to choose which is a better decision but in fact klaro man kaayo imo bias as you can refer to this post nga ako gireplyan? like this:

    karon puno pa ug love but what if mapul-an na sad ang gurl?
    PS: Who am I to judge the girl because she had 6 past sexual relationships and who am I to be so sure what is best for esboss?

    Quote Originally Posted by jheartfred
    4 real, daghan once my grandma was about to die we searched the intere city and all we get is wa ang pari dong toa sa bukid or naa xay mass later. sa mabolo nlg jud tawn namo na kaplagan...

    mao na ako giingon... mutoo ba diay dayon ta if naa xa history.... tot tagaan ug 2nd chance plastican diay
    giving a second chance or 3rd or 4th, is not necessarily being plastic kung akong bantayan becoz he had history. ang plastican is kung dili ko motug-an sa tinuod nga nagduha duha gihapon ko niya even if I was willing to give him another chance. Of course, dili ba diay kinahanglan niya ibalik og earn ang trust? you miss my point, second or next chances are not given on a silver spoon, youve got to earn that trust back.

    I am just looking at both sides of the issue.


  2. #102

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    waahhhhh c emboss nangnahanglan man... hehehe post nlng mo for emboss... yaw nlng mu debate.. heheheeh

  3. #103

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    i cant help but react on this:
    "you think the right thing to do that time is imo sad diay biyaan? As Ive said I can give a second chance(or 3rd or 4th, so on), but I never said Im going to trust every word he says, if he wants some privacy, pwede ra man sad nga in my sight maskin dili lang ko kadungog. and one more thing, kadaghan laing pari, nganong mokuha man kag pari nga wala ka nisalig unya moruo sad diay ka dayon kung pabiyaan with the kind of history he had?"

    thadz, yes i agree u seem to be off the track....slight (peace ). what we are discussing here is not about forgiving of sin, but credibility, integrity. the issue here is, this idiot, still continues to be a priest, and nobody knows her affair with MS.R.

    according to my source he is even teaching theology in one college or school for the priest. means, people still believe in him and trust him. and you think, he wont dare again to seek another affair with another woman? he done it before, there's no reason he cant over and over again.



  4. #104

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    mao sad... online d i ka, musta man these past days bro.. musta ang suggestions? does it helpd u?

  5. #105

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    ok ok d nako tiglalis oi... basta emboss ha, ayaw bya kalimot ug pray to GOD b4 ka mu decide ha... after all god is an istoryan too... hidden but listening too... aiyt![br]Posted on: October 03, 2007, 01:45:22 PM_________________________________________________ mia jud ta itubay ni thadz oi but cge nlg, hilom nlg ko [br]Posted on: October 03, 2007, 01:47:56 PM_________________________________________________b oss by the way pla na mo ka months ni inday??

  6. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by esboss
    i cant help but react on this:
    "you think the right thing to do that time is imo sad diay biyaan? As Ive said I can give a second chance(or 3rd or 4th, so on), but I never said Im going to trust every word he says, if he wants some privacy, pwede ra man sad nga in my sight maskin dili lang ko kadungog. and one more thing, kadaghan laing pari, nganong mokuha man kag pari nga wala ka nisalig unya moruo sad diay ka dayon kung pabiyaan with the kind of history he had?"

    thadz, yes i agree u seem to be off the track....slight (peace ). what we are discussing here is not about forgiving of sin, but credibility, integrity. the issue here is, this idiot, still continues to be a priest, and nobody knows her affair with MS.R.

    according to my source he is even teaching theology in one college or school for the priest. means, people still believe in him and trust him. and you think, he wont dare again to seek another affair with another woman? he done it before, there's no reason he cant over and over again.


    unya naay gihimo ang nakabalo about it? You see, walay resolution nga mahimo if magsige lang ta reklamo about his behavior without pushing it to the right forum that can investigate the matter and is in a position to hand out sanctions. If it doesnt sit well with you, naa man cguro available nga grievance channels for the Catholic faithful to rectify the misgivings of their shepherds.

    you see, ang start sa thread is whether ok ra ba to have a girl who had sexual relationships in the past including the priest. The priest issue is even secondary to your query. Perhaps that even warrants another thread. Dili man na maoy primary issue sa start sa thread:

    what can you say to a girl who has sexual relationship with 6 men including a priest? can she be trusted? can you consider her immoral? would you take risk to have a serious relationship with her?

  7. #107

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    if tarong imu mind part dili ka mopatol in anah nga girl.........

  8. #108

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    what can you say to a girl who has sexual relationship with 6 men including a priest?
    ~ primary

    can she be trusted?
    ~ secondary

    can you consider her immoral?
    ~ tertiary

    would you take risk to have a serious relationship with her?
    ~ and lastxary bro...

    no need of a new thread... 1 gurl, 5 guys and a priest and a decision to make...

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    what can you say to a girl who has sexual relationship with 6 men including a priest? can she be trusted? can you consider her immoral? would you take risk to have a serious relationship with her?
    all are primary questions as in ang klaro nga gi ask. secondary questions are the derivatives of these queries or those asked as a consequence of the issue, i.e. is it immoral?=hidden question is moral ba diay makigrelasyon ug pari?

    another example:
    can she be trusted?=hidden question "hatagan pa ba nako siya ug second chance?"

    if esboss is in dilemma, that means he is considering either dumping Ms. R or actually to stay with her. That also means he is in dilemma whether he is going to give her another chance. And he understands there are risks involved with decisions he will make pertaining to this issue, thats why it is but right to look at the issues that surround this particular dilemma

  10. #110

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    actually on as i mentioned before, im about to draw the line of setting her free. thadz dont get us / me wrong...ur suggestion/comments are valuable just like anybody else. yes we do argue, and question ur ideas, but that doesnt mean ur wrong. and yes, ur free to express urself anynomously. and i think everybody does enjoy this freedom.

    suggestions/opinions as i mentioned earlier does make a lot of sense. btw, im not really in a delimma state...just trying to weigh things, some sort of double checking things.

    the people who knew about their are the ms r close friends and me when you talk about sanction or pushing it to another forum, well is a nice idea. however, do we have invidences to support this, etc?













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