Questions for the Atheists

[tokidoki]

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^^ i mentioned that a while back that atheism is NOT a group. It is a mindset.

[yanong_banikanhon]

If I stop participating in this thread, would you lose respect for me? Would you then tap other people's shoulders and say "...ayaw intawon ninyo ni sila i-respetar kay mga wala'y klaro nga mga tawo."?

Relax lang lagi, bay . Kalma lang. Wala man tawon ko nangampanya nga dili i-respetar ang mga atheists kay mga wa'y klaro na sila. Imoha ra man nang huna-huna.

I'm just stating the fact nga double standard ang inyong pagtan-aw sa existence/non-existence of GOD kay kusog mong mangayo og proof sa position sa mga theists unya kun kamo'y pangitaan og proof sa inyong claims, inyong balihon ang pangutana. Wala ko mag-ingon nga ikaw, rodsky, double standard ang tanan nimong panglantaw.

Kanang imong pagka-atheist, gamay ra kaayo na nga bahin sa imong pagkatawo. And I will certainly not lose my respect to you AS A PERSON just because you are an atheist. This applies to all resident atheists here as well.

Now, if we can just stay away from those personal stuff and deal the atheists' position objectively:

Atheists assert that life comes from lifeless chemicals through a random process WITHOUT the aid of any intelligence. Inyoha man nang assertion, so the burden of proof is also yours.

Para makabarog kanang inyong assertion, pakitai kuno mi'g evidence that would prove beyond reasonable doubt that life cannot come from any intelligent source.

Kun wala gyu'y evidence, then just simply say, no, such an evidence does not exist. Then our discussion is over. Unya mo-proceed na sad ta sa next questions kay Questions for the atheists baya ang atong thread. Ana ra na ka-simple, bay.

[treize]

Is that all you can say? Tsk.. Tsk.. Tsk..

"The argument is central or the core of Intelligent Design, and is rejected by the scientific community, which overwhelmingly regards intelligent design as pseudoscience." One science writer called it a "full-blown intellectual surrender strategy."

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District/4:Whether ID Is Science - Wikisource

There you go aron dili ta ma-charge plagiarism kuno..

Of course science will reject something beyond it's grasp. Why would it include something that transcends it's method?

Too many people confessed about their spiritual experience and science rejects it since it's method could not prove it's validity. I for once doubt the existence of spirits, but I could not just lie to myself that the people I meet and experience this phenomenons were just hallucinating or just delusional cause it doesn't make sense.

Example lang brad sa akong gitrabahoan sauna there is certain room nga daghan na gyud nga mga kauban nako nakakita.. Naa pay usa nga bag-o lang gyud nahuman sa training and knew nothing about that room 1st diay pa lang niya wa na motiwas niuli og wa na mopadayon og trabaho tungod sa kahadlok. Naa pay usa nako ka kauban nga seriouso nga maldito pa kaayo kuyog sa 4 nga kauban namo nga babaye, nakakita gihapon sila ani nga entity og naglumba og panagan.. Naa pay daghan brad di na nako ma enumerate sa kadaghan..

Don't tell me that those normal people suddenly became delusional or were hallucinating at the same time with the same entity kay parehas ra man gyud ilang nakit-an? Cause it really doesn't make any sense..

Sometimes I think it's our arrogance that's letting us rule our minds by assuming that we know everything and everything can be explained through science..

Mao sad nay nakapait diha bai ka most of the scientist doesn't want to hook themselves to this kind of things kay madaot ilang credibility...

here you go.. TSK! TSK! TSK!

[ketllac]

^^ i mentioned that a while back that atheism is NOT a group. It is a mindset.

Atheism most likely a personal choice and also comes from a mindset of an individual but it is classifiable under a certain group of people do not believe in God especially if we apply the principle of typology or taxonomy. it sounds like a double standard that atheists adhere to the standard of science but ang principle sa science mao ang science of classification dili pwede maaply nila..

[tokidoki]

Atheism most likely a personal choice and also comes from a mindset of an individual but it is classifiable under a certain group of people do not believe in God especially if we apply the principle of typology or taxonomy. it sounds like a double standard that atheists adhere to the standard of science but ang principle sa science mao ang science of classification dili pwede maaply nila..

they are talking about organized religion in the context of their discussion. atheism doesn't have an "organized" following.

[KlaytoN]

..continuation from Post #1037

People here may have accused me of plagiarism but this won't stop me from spreading the voice of the scientific community. I will be posting a series of statements or scientific opinion as given by scientific bodies of international standing in response to the "intelligent design" agenda.

American Association of University Professors

--2005 statement: "deplores efforts in local communities and by some state legislators to require teachers in public schools to treat evolution as merely a hypothesis or speculation, untested and unsubstantiated by the methods of science, and to require them to make students aware of an "intelligent-design hypothesis" to account for the origins of life. These initiatives not only violate the academic freedom of public school teachers, but can deny students an understanding of the overwhelming scientific consensus regarding evolution."

Source: AAUP: Faculty Association Speaks Out on Three Top Issues

I'm copy pasting parts of the statement only so as to prevent accusations of plagiarism kuno from believers who do anything just to discredit science. I want istoryans to read the source page to fully understand the issue.

The scientific community has spoken. So it's up to you to decide whom to believe: The ID or Creationism proponents like Kent Hovind or Michael Behe? or the Scientific Community as a whole? You be the judge. End of debate.

[ketllac]

they are talking about organized religion in the context of their discussion. atheism doesn't have an "organized" following.

Organized or dili but as a principle it is classifiable as a group that have characteristics or traits in common.

[lingkwyz]

Of course science will reject something beyond it's grasp. Why would it include something that transcends it's method?

Too many people confessed about their spiritual experience and science rejects it since it's method could not prove it's validity. I for once doubt the existence of spirits, but I could not just lie to myself that the people I meet and experience this phenomenons were just hallucinating or just delusional cause it doesn't make sense.

Example lang brad sa akong gitrabahoan sauna there is certain room nga daghan na gyud nga mga kauban nako nakakita.. Naa pay usa nga bag-o lang gyud nahuman sa training and knew nothing about that room 1st diay pa lang niya wa na motiwas niuli og wa na mopadayon og trabaho tungod sa kahadlok. Naa pay usa nako ka kauban nga seriouso nga maldito pa kaayo kuyog sa 4 nga kauban namo nga babaye, nakakita gihapon sila ani nga entity og naglumba og panagan.. Naa pay daghan brad di na nako ma enumerate sa kadaghan..

Don't tell me that those normal people suddenly became delusional or were hallucinating at the same time with the same entity kay parehas ra man gyud ilang nakit-an? Cause it really doesn't make any sense..

Sometimes I think it's our arrogance that's letting us rule our minds by assuming that we know everything and everything can be explained through science..

Mao sad nay nakapait diha bai ka most of the scientist doesn't want to hook themselves to this kind of things kay madaot ilang credibility...

here you go.. TSK! TSK! TSK!

sir i have a question if you may permit; unsa diay nawng sa mga ungo or evil creatures sir?

[treize]

sir i have a question if you may permit; unsa diay nawng sa mga ungo or evil creatures sir?

I think they look like your ava sir..

[lingkwyz]

hehe.. nice one sir..

but you think they have horns and large fangs and etc.??
none of them look good. 'coz if they do, they wouldn't be called as such aight

my point sir is that human inferiority and fear to the unknown has been clearly demonstrated by the looks of our imagination foes. big, ugly, with fangs and all the blood, one-eyed, hairy and mostly in the dark.

IMHO sir, it's all it is.. imagination.. the fear.. and the imagination of someone to save us from all the BS in the world and give us the insurance of a very happy life, only, after death..

let's be fair to the boogey monster. after all, he isn't in the news everyday. (no hold-ups, gang rapes, and corruption like we do. )