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  1. #91

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    pasensya na bro, if mao na akong nahibaw-an about ni Saul/Paul. Daghan man gud ko nakita nga buslot sa iyang istorya, esp. kanang kalit nga pagkausab niya. Nya lahi man ang among pasabot sa warning ni Jesus, unya niha-om man tanan ni Paul. Kanang inyo, mostly centered na sa teachings ni Paul, so mao na gitawag nako ug Paulian Christianity. naka timing ko balhin balhin ko ug channel, naay religion channel kalimot ko sa name sa preacher, timing si Paul ang gihisgutan.

    Pero naay school nga Christianity, centered on Christ.
    mao lage Jovi...ngano kaha wa man kabantay si pedro sa mga boslot ni pablo

  2. #92
    mura gyud mo'g mga church scholars maka dala ug istorya diri. nakakita pa ug daghan boslot. hehe

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    mura gyud mo'g mga church scholars maka dala ug istorya diri. nakakita pa ug daghan boslot. hehe
    wa koy labot ana bro oi ako ra gisakyan ang term ni Jovi sa boslot hehehe

  4. #94
    @jovi

    I respect and understand what your religion is teaching about Reincarnation, you may call it a lie or anything bec of your BELIEF. But to those who are studying in the original Christianity, a secret school centered on Christ, it is taught by the master Jesus the Christ himself.
    I also understand your teachings bro. Sorry to say this but It is a counterfeit Christianity. Pwede ta kaclaim anything we want para attractive sad paminawn like sa imong belief about Jesus Christ. The conflict there is your belief in REINCARNATION in light of Jesus claims to be the WAY, TRUTH and the LIFE. Reincarnation was never taught and is not part of the teachings of the Lord bro, it’s a pagan practice who embraced Christianity. A lie will always find ways to camouflage the truth.

    There are verses in the bible and in Gnostic Gospels and some unpublished teachings. It is not easy pud to prove that and just explain to you in one or two months. Many students will take years to fully understood and proved themselves that it is true. Some students even failed to prove it and still experimenting to prove the truth of Reincarnation. But some had really proven it.
    You cannot find reincarnation anywhere in the bible bro. Its only your assumption and wrong interpretation. Wala mag conflict ang teachings diha nga naay eternal destiny nya naa pud reincarnation. Kinsa mana imong giingon to have proven Reincarnation?

    So no matter what you say bro, for us students of the original Christianity, we know that Reincarnation is true.
    Original christianity bro are the ones who followed the teachings of Jesus Christ found only in the bible, nothing else. Daghan mga grupo bro who tried their best to suppress/hide or even destroy the early church. Only because of the power of the holy spirit….it prevails unto this day! Those were the christians who uphold the NEW TESTAMENT writings and not the gnostic gospels.

    Here’s my point bro, what if REINCARNATION is wrong, unsa may atong mabuhat if we’ll be judged by the creator (a personal GOD) kung mamatay ta knowing that Jesus Christ died for our sins and God requires our faith and belief in His Son? Makahangyo kaha ka nga magpa reincarnate lang?

    And we understood why you call it lie or anything and it won't really matter to us. Maglisod gyud mo ug sabot ky conflict sa inyong GITOHO-AN, then sarado na inyong hunahuna sa inyong religion.
    Sarado sad among hunahuna about the TRUTH coz we believed on the absoluteness of the words of Jesus Christ! We do not rely on any religion but HIM. His absolute claims were verified, tested and supported anywhere in History. Bisan unsay gitira against sa bible bro, still its TRUTH will outlived its pole bearers. That’s why we defend and cling to it!

    Try to listen this and youll be blessed!
    Seductions of the Soul, Part 3 of 4 - Listen to Ravi Zacharias from Just Thinking

    Anything nga conflict sa inyong BELIEF, para ninyo dili gyud tinood. Masabtan kaayo na namo ky maski gani pareha ra ninyo Christian, nya lain ug denomination, para ninyo dili tinood ilaha ug inyoha ang tinood.
    Truth by definition is exclusive! Bisan tingali sa imong belief, those who do not agree with you, makaingon jud ka nga sayop ilaha. Diba? So dili nimo ma apply nga duha or daghan ang truth. Kinsay nagclaim sa imong truth? Wala…kundi ikaw ra mismo tungod sa imong na experience nga buka2 sa third eye. Again, wala diha nagpuyo ang ginoo sa imong pineal gland, daghan pa kag i-discover bro and your entire life is not enough to grasp everything which only God is big enough to fill our emptiness. Listen to Jesus Christ for he has conquered death and told us the truth of the afterlife!

    Merry Christmas too Bro
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-25-2012 at 04:19 PM.

  5. #95
    @jovi

    pwede seguro bro, based sa among nasabtan sa gitudlo namo, God could be impersonal and personal, pero ang iyang pagka personal ky gamay ra gyud kaayo pero majority impersonal gyud, mura na lng ug mawa ang iyang pagka personal.
    If youre clever enough bro, makabantay jud ka how deceitful is that kind of teaching! Naa diha ang ilang trick sa imong gi-claim bro! Ang personal being diha sa ginoo maoy pinaka-importante, dili ang iyang pagka impersonal. Unsa may gamiton niya kung dili ang iyang Will, Intellect ug Emotion sa pag sustain sa kalibutan/or the universe?
    You know, ang trick sa yawa nga angay nimo mabaloan is always to find ways/teachings to divert our worship from the TRUE and LIVING GOD, the creator of all things!

    Pero based sa among experiences, dili gyud personal ang God. Kung sa inyoha personal, seguro naa sab lain pamaagi sa inyong pagsabot sa God.
    Of course kay nakasabot man sad mi about the revelation nga iyang gipakita sa history. Not only that, I myself experienced his wondrous working sa akong kinabuhi….and it’s not only true because it works, but it always work because it’s TRUE. Dili na belief2 lang bro...its a testimony of the millions of Christians whose lives were changed by God's grace.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-25-2012 at 05:50 PM.

  6. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    unsa pa man angay niya depensahon ana? kung sa boxing pa na bro, ang faith defender sige lng ug depensa.
    unsa man nga pagtuo bro sa kalibutan nga dili na angayan depensaan? Unsa diay tawag nimo aning imong gibuhat diri nga bisan ikaw ra usa naningkamot jud maayo nga mapasabot ang imong occult belief?

  7. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    unsa man nga pagtuo bro sa kalibutan nga dili na angayan depensaan? Unsa diay tawag nimo aning imong gibuhat diri nga bisan ikaw ra usa naningkamot jud maayo nga mapasabot ang imong occult belief?
    OT -ok rana bro oi...tungod baya ni Jovi na CIA ko...hehe

  8. #98
    @jovi

    pasensya na bro, if mao na akong nahibaw-an about ni Saul/Paul. Daghan man gud ko nakita nga buslot sa iyang istorya, esp. kanang kalit nga pagkausab niya.
    Kinsa may dili mausab anang imong ma encounter ang Risen Christ? Naa bay other religious figure nga imong gipang mention pareha ana? WALA.

    So Paul himself experienced real transformation tungod sa pagamit sa Ginoo sa iyang kinabuhi mightily to spread the gospel of salvation to us, the gentiles. Pasalamat sad diay tag dako ni Apostle Paul.

    Nya lahi man ang among pasabot sa warning ni Jesus, unya niha-om man tanan ni Paul. Kanang inyo, mostly centered na sa teachings ni Paul, so mao na gitawag nako ug Paulian Christianity.
    Unsa man nga warning ang imong nalibgan bro nga moingon ka ni against sa kang Apostle Paul? Imong pasabot nga si Paul ang among gituohang Saviour? Okay deny the writings of the Apostle Paul, how about the rest of the bible, do you think gipromote na ang REINCARNATION kung tangtangon ang new testament?

    Pero naay school nga Christianity, centered on Christ.
    Be clear with your definition of Christ bro. It is not Jesus Christ of the bible. Daghan kayog conflict imong statements bro. You claim Jesus is THE Christ, unya imong iparehas siya nga walay kalainan sa kang Buddha, Krishna, nimo nga naka attain lang sad ug Christhood "kuno" kay gitudloan ug teacher sa occult.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 12-25-2012 at 04:36 PM.

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    OT -ok rana bro oi...tungod baya ni Jovi na CIA ko...hehe
    sakto2 diay bro! haahaha....im thankful bitaw sa kang bro jovs kay sya ra jud nilahutay maayo to oppose Christianity. Nindot sad nuon ni para masabtan sad unsa ang difference sa truth and the lies.

  10. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    sakto2 diay bro! haahaha....im thankful bitaw sa kang bro jovs kay sya ra jud nilahutay maayo to oppose Christianity. Nindot sad nuon ni para masabtan sad unsa ang difference sa truth and the lies.
    bitaw bro sakto gyud...dili man lang ni para ato...para man ni sa uban readers nga nag subscribe diri...bahala sige lang gud sila tan-aw2x basa2x agi2x ug unsa pa diha hehehe

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