Fight a war and probably die or be branded a coward by the entire world?

[machinecult]

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The POLL description is kinda misleading people to vote.

Those who voted DO NOTHING doesn't mean we'll not fight or we're defeatists. We just don't want to fight when there's no need too.

And I absolutely do not adhere to firing the so-called, 'first shot'.


Ethics of War

[walker]

The POLL description is kinda misleading people to vote.

Those who voted DO NOTHING doesn't mean we'll not fight or we're defeatists. We just don't want to fight when there's no need too.

And I absolutely do not adhere to firing the so-called, 'first shot'.


Ethics of War

cmon cult... you are not a machine, are you?

there is no need to fight? are you talking about need like hunger and thirst? or as with machines, lubrication?

we've got ten pages of discussion yet you still do not see the hunger and thirst here? NEED? damn.. what kind of society is this...

MAY I TELL YOU THIS...THERE IS NO ETHICS IN WAR..

may i ask? have you been to a real battle field? have you seen real blood and blasted guts, scenes that will haunt your nightmares forever? damnnnn.........

[machinecult]

There's always ethics in warfare as in everything. Do you believe that treating POW's should be humane? Then that's ethics. You can't win wars if you don't treat your enemies and civilians as human beings . What if you yourself would end up as prisoner, will you not appreciate your captors to treat you humanely?

cmon cult... you are not a machine, are you?

there is no need to fight? are you talking about need like hunger and thirst? or as with machines, lubrication?

we've got ten pages of discussion yet you still do not see the hunger and thirst here? NEED? damn.. what kind of society is this...

MAY I TELL YOU THIS...THERE IS NO ETHICS IN WAR..

may i ask? have you been to a real battle field? have you seen real blood and blasted guts, scenes that will haunt your nightmares forever? damnnnn.........

[walker]

There's always ethics in warfare as in everything. Do you believe that treating POW's should be humane? Then that's ethics. You can't win wars if you don't treat your enemies as human beings. What if you yourself would end up as prisoner, will you not appreciate your captors to treat you humanely?

let us just agree to disagree.. me and you. i have been there.. and you haven't. you will never understand with words of explanation. like most, you will understand with your eyes, when you see what words in your books of theories fail to describe.

this is a crossroads.. and there are crucial decisions that need to be made. we will see what tomorrow brings.

[machinecult]

What operation were you in? As I do not know you personally your claim is subjective (no offense). Also, you say there's no room for ethics and theories well maybe that's the problem with our military. Maybe that is why were still fighting internal dissidents to this day. Because everyone so close-minded and too traditional to look for other ways to defeat the enemy. Its either 'all-out war' or (false) 'peace-talks'. Too much political intrusion and lacking in game theories. The AFP should study Magsaysay's counter-insurgency.

This is from the US Military studying our methods in the 1950's.
The Hukbalahap Insurrection: A Case Study of a Successful Anti-Insurgency Operation in the Philippines

let us just agree to disagree.. me and you. i have been there.. and you haven't. you will never understand with words of explanation. like most, you will understand with your eyes, when you see what words in your books of theories fail to describe.

this is a crossroads.. and there are crucial decisions that need to be made. we will see what tomorrow brings.

[tophat]

Unsa may lain choice ani? Ihatag na lang sa China para way samok?

[edoy]

mao ni ang panultihon kung kinsa ang mosakop adto pud ta magpa-sip-sip nila. nahitabo naman na pila na ka siglo, gikan pa sa mga kastila hapon ug amerikano.para mo survive ta sakay lang ta sa ilang mando, kung gusto mo asenso, magpa-sip-sip ug magpa-impress ta nila.

[edoy]

matod pa ni sun tzu "overcome others' forces without battle"

[trollolol]

I am never proud of our history, history is the past. That's why it's called history. I don't want to live in the past? So why live our history 'till now? We can learn from our history. You don't have a choice to be a Filipino but you have a choice to stand up being a Filipino. We can make our own better history that we can tell to our children and grand children that we stand from the bullying of other countries even though our great grand parent did not.

I am sorry but your speech makes for a poor battle cry. If you were my commander and that was your speech my morale would be low. Chinese people feel that that the shoal belongs to them. They have been fishing there far longer than we have been collectively known as Filipinos. So if democracy ang basehan since mas daghan man sila it is beyond argument na ilaha na ang shoal. If you believe that might makes right the more ilaha na. We are a product of western colonization and before that we did not exist. The Chinese have been a nation for centuries and that is beyond refute. How do you reconcile that?

ahahahhaa... katawa man ko nimo boss... dili mani patay ang atong tuyo kung mo sukol ta.. bati sad kaau ang atong yuta nga dapat unta sa pilipinas ilugon lang ug lain nga lugar... ikaw man dapat ang mo adto sa imong gi.ingon boss kay murag naa naman ka ug g.tupak... ahahahha... dili man tingali ka tawo boss insik man tingali ka... ahahahha...

Ikaw maoy dunay tupak sir jejemon pa jud. Haha kaisog ba aning dunay avatar na Naruto pwerte man diayng kuyawag panglantaw sa kinabuhi. Boss sagbot kas katilingban for all we know imong talent kay DOTA ra. Way gamit...

wow!! sweto lage kaayo ka.. tan-awa imong sinultian kung kinsay mas tambay nato.. yes mag jeep ko.. pero sure ka nga magkaratel kog dagan padung US kung tagaan kog VISA? kaluoy sad nimu ue.. ingun ana imong pagka taw!!

Stop lying your greatest ambition in life is to work abroad so you can afford to drive your own car. How can you claim to be so nationalistic when you want to earn more money the only way you can... That is to work abroad as an OFW. Magpapicture dayon ka sa snow pina layat layat dayon haha ay ko ilara sir...

[lirab@yahoo.com]

I am sorry but your speech makes for a poor battle cry. If you were my commander and that was your speech my morale would be low. Chinese people feel that that the shoal belongs to them. They have been fishing there far longer than we have been collectively known as Filipinos. So if democracy ang basehan since mas daghan man sila it is beyond argument na ilaha na ang shoal. If you believe that might makes right the more ilaha na. We are a product of western colonization and before that we did not exist. The Chinese have been a nation for centuries and that is beyond refute. How do you reconcile that?



Ikaw maoy dunay tupak sir jejemon pa jud. Haha kaisog ba aning dunay avatar na Naruto pwerte man diayng kuyawag panglantaw sa kinabuhi. Boss sagbot kas katilingban for all we know imong talent kay DOTA ra. Way gamit...



Stop lying your greatest ambition in life is to work abroad so you can afford to drive your own car. How can you claim to be so nationalistic when you want to earn more money the only way you can... That is to work abroad as an OFW. Magpapicture dayon ka sa snow pina layat layat dayon haha ay ko ilara sir...

murag ikaw man ang sagbot sa katilingban boss.. katawa lang ko nimo mura sad ka ug correct manabi har har. ngano naa paman tawo pariha nimo ug utok.. pariha rana kung ang imong balay karon ilugon lang ug lain imo nalang ihatag kay talawan man ka.. tanawa tarong boss basin nalibat naka klaro ana duol na sa pilipinas layo ra sa mga insik... ngano basihan man nato nang sa unang panahon nga klaro man jd kaau na nga sa pilipinas.