I have the complete transcript of the conversation between Gary, Mike & GMA
medyo taas gamay ok lang ba i post nako diri ? dili ta kasab-an sa mga moderators ?
I have the complete transcript of the conversation between Gary, Mike & GMA
medyo taas gamay ok lang ba i post nako diri ? dili ta kasab-an sa mga moderators ?
puwede sab nako i email complete transcript spliced and original pm lang email ninyo thanks
Sige i post bay. For the information of everybody. Wa man siguro dautan ana. I think the moderators can understand.Originally Posted by maldito_guapito
Okay..cge here it goes....
Tale of the tapes
'Spliced' / 'Original'
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'Spliced'
Conversation between "Gary" and Mike on 08 1433H June 04
Boss tulungan mo sana yung loyal sa atin si Bobby Barbers,
Papano pag kayu-kayo dyan
Tignan mo, oo, nagfile ng parang annulment or something, tignan mo kung
matutulungan mo
O sige basta kwan, talaga naming aking inaano si Bobby e, talaga naming
siya naman ang atin e
Oo siya, sya talaga ang atin, tulungan mo sana.
Ok.
Thank you.
Gary and Mike on 02 1156H June 2004
Kami ni Bobby Barbers dahil parang siya kasi doon sa Lanao del Sur.
Meron
pa raw 27 municipalities pa.
Alin, alin
Meron pa raw 27 municipalities dun sa Lanao del Sur
Hindi kasi ang kuwan dun sa Lanao del Sur, 2 presinto sa bayan, 4 na
presinto sa Madalin, 1 presinto sa Capay, yun na lang.
So bale 5.
No. Pero presinto lang
A precinct lang.
Oo, wala naming 1000 e.
Ang impression, dahil sa Columbio meron pa raw 3rd siya.
Hindi wala na yung Columbio nakasama na nung kuwan,
Sa tingin ko wala na rin.
Ang South Op ang nilagay nila na merong 4000, pero kahit anu pa wala pa
rin
di makahabol.
E ang Tawi-Tawi makakuha pa raw siya ng 750
E, wala namang ano, ewan ko, wala namang ano yang Tawi-tawi.
Kawawa naman yung bata natin.
Alam mo, talagang inaano ko yan, pinagdududahan na ako ng nag-kuwan dun
sa
Lanao Sur.
(Laughter) Anak ng puta, hay naku, kawawa naman.
O sige tatawagan ko mamaya siya.
Sige tawagan mo siya kung puwede.
Sige.
Thank you, thank you.
Gary and Mike on 02 1023H June 2004
Hello.
Hello, si Mike to.
(garbled)
Hello.
Kung puwede ho, tulungan niyo si Bobby Barbers.
Oo nga ho, pero mahihirapan na tayo, medyo nabuko tayo sa Lanao del Sur
at
hindi na makakahabol dito sa Cotabato.
Ganun ba, baka puwede pang gawan ng paraan.
Nandito po kami sa session ngayon e. Nag-usap na kami ni Senator.
Ok.
Gary and PGMA on 31 2317H May 2004
Hello, Ma'm.
Hello, saka yung kabila they are trying to get Namfrel copy na in-issue
pang COCs.
Namfrel copies ho?
Oo.
Ay wala naman, ok naman ang Namfrel sa atin. They are now (garbled) to
us.
Oo, oo pero it doesn't make sure na (garbled), pero yun nga they are
trying
to get that.
Oho, we will get in advance copy ho natin kung ano ang kwan nila. Sige
ho.
PGMA and Gary on or about 01 2143H June 2004
Hello, Ma'm,
Hello.
Good evening Ma'm.
When they open the ballot box of Camarines Norte it was empty.
This afternoon ma'm?
Oo.
Camarines Norte?
Oo.
I'll call up the supervisor tonight or tomorrow ma'm.
Si Carino?
Lisa Carino, Lisa Narino.
It was empty.
She's not going to do that because this guy is a straight type.
It was empty.
I will call her up Ma'm.
Ok.
Gary and PGMA on 02 2229H June 2004
Hello, Ma'm, good evening.
Hello, dun ba sa Lanao del Sur tsaka sa Basilan yun lang bang match dun
sa
SOV sa COC.
Kuwan ho yan, ang sinasabi nila wala naman ho.
Hindi nagma-match.
Hindi nagma-match. May posibilidad na di magma-match kung hindi nila
sinunod yung individual SOV ng mga munisipyo, pero ewan ko lang ho kung
sa
atin pabor o hindi kasi dun naman sa Basilan tsaka Lanao Sur, itong
ginawa
nila na pagpataas sa inyo hindi naman ho kuwan, maayos naman ang
paggawa e.
So nagma-match?
Oho. Sa Basilan ay iyon ay pahabol na naman ng mga military dun, hindi
masyado marunong kasi silang gumawa e, katulad sa Sulu, Habaton. Pero
hindi
naman ho kinausap ko kanina yung Chairman ng Board sa Sulu, ang akin e
patataguin ko na muna yung EO ng Pagundaran na para hindi siya
maka-testigo
ho. Nai-print na ho yung kuwan Camarines Norte, tomorrow we will
present
official communication dun ho sa Senate, dun sinasabing wala hong laman
yung ballot box.
Oo.
Na-receive ho nila lahat e.
Oo.
Tumawag ho kayo kanina, Ma'm?
Ya, about that Lanao del Sur at Basilan.
Oho. Nagkausap nga ho kami ni Abdullah dun sa kuwan kanina about this,
iaano ko ho, wag ho kayo masyado mabahala, anyway we will take care of
this, kakausapin ko rin si Atty. Makalintal.
Oo, tapos non si ano, tapos non si, Calanguyan meron daw silang teacher
na
nasa Witness Protection Program ng kabila.
Sino ho?
Yung kabila, may teacher daw silang hawak.
Wala naman ho, baka nananakot lang ho sila, kasi yung kuwan.
Calanguyan, Tawi-Tawi.
Calanguyan sa Tawi-Tawi, wala naman hong kuwan tayo dun, wala tayong
ginawa
dun sa Calanguyan, talo nga tayo dun, talo nga si Nur doon e.
Oo.
Sige, aanuhin ko ho.
Ok, sige, sige. Thank you, thank you.
Sige po.
PGMA and Gary on 06 1900H June 04
Hello.
Hello, Ma'm, good evening, tumawag po kayo.
Oo, sabi ni Teng dapat sigurado natin consistent yong mga documents wag
yong (garbled)
Yung kuwan, hindi naman ho masyadong problema yung sa Maguindanao. Pero
anu
ho yung tinex ninyo kagabi na may mga fake (garbled) na ako daw ang
source.
Oo, oo.
Pero pano, san ho ba naman, ang hindi ko maintindihan what is that they
are
trying to drive at with 120 days (garbled) establish ng (gabled)
precincts
Ok, ok, siguro ano, baka more shot in the dark lang yon. But I will
just
you know everything I'll found out, para we can always make the
appropriate
remedies.
Si Gen. Lumibao nasa Zamboanga na. I had all the people around us talk
to
him so that they will be able to prevent what (garbled) happened
Ok, ok, ok, sige, ok, thank you.
PGMA and Gary on1104 26 May 2004 2004
Hello.
Hello, Ma'm, good morning.
Si ano, si Biazon nagbabanta, kung madadaya daw siya papabuksan daw
niya
yung ano, (garbled), tsaka sa Tawi-Tawi, baka raw ako madale doon, so
…
baka nga.
PGMA and Gary on 1125H 26 May 2004
Hello, Ma'm.
Hello, hello.
Hello, Ma'm.
Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until after the
voting on the news tonight.
On the news, o sige po, mag-uusap po kami ni Col….
Kasi mabubungkal sa Senate, e, para walang, kung iron case (garbled)
magiging two allies ito di siyempre (garbled) di sya magtatally for
sure.
PGMA and Gary on 27 0729H May2004
Hello, Ma'm.
Hello, meron tayong schedule (garbled) PRs para sa Sulu.
San nanduon Ma'm.
Sulu, Sulu.
Oo Ma'm, meron.
Nacocorespond.
Oho Ma'm, lahat po meron.
Kumpleto.
Ok. Sige. Ok, ok.
Ok sige Ma'm, sige po.
PGMA and Gary 28 2213H May 2004
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, good evening Ma'm, good evening.
The FPJ camp daw will file a case against the Board of Canvassers dun
sa
Marawi.
Ma'm, ano Ma'm?
The FPJ camp raw will file case raw against the Board of Canvassers and
military in Marawi?
Hindi naman ho siguro nila maano ang ating Board of Canvassers pero ang
military kasi si Gudani, sa kanila si Gudani. I do not know if they
will
file. Sa kanila si Gudani Ma'm, that is why I had to work with Gen.
Esperon
and Gen. Kyamco na at that time pinalitan namin si Gudani for a while
kaya
kuwan, pero bakit nila pa-filean yang mga military na sa kanila lahat
na
halos ayaw na ngang mag give way sa aming mga tao.
Oo, oo.
PGMA and Gary on 08 1751H June 04
Hello.
Hello Garcy.
Hello, Ma'm.
Ano gawin natin dun sa Namfrel press con kanina, yung Namfrel Lanao del
Sur?
Inaano ko, meron na ho akong kopya ng ifinax ni Nonong, yung kay
Dalidig,
pero that is not true because I have already (garbled) my staff whom I
assigned Lanao Sur pagkatapos ho si Rey Lumibao, the supervisor, is
coming
and then we will also try to make them say something after this.
Pasasalitain ko sila ho without me letting people know that I am the
one
who will (garbled) ganon lang ho ang kwanin natin.
Ok, ok.
Sige ho Ma'm, ok po.
PGMA and Gary on 10 1340H June 04
Hello.
Hello Garcy.
Ma'm, good afternoon.
Ano, kinausap na kayo ni Abalos?
Oo, Ma'm. Mamasyal na lang muna daw ho ako sa Mindanao kuwan lang. Kaya
nga
ho kung ano man ho ang mga problema natin tawagan lang ho ninyo ako.
May problema sa Southwood East pero local, kasi iba-iba raw ang
iprinoclaim
ng Comelec doon.
Sino ba atin don.
Ay naku ang importante na hindi madamay yung sa itaas.
Ay hindi ho kasi ako ang may hawak noon.
Kasi ang issue doon sabi ng (garbled) dadalhin daw yung sa kanila yung
recount, pero sabi naman ni Echiverri dun na lang daw sa munisipyo.
Doon na lang ho. Ok na ho yon, ako ho may (garbled)
O sige. So hindi maapektuhan yung sa taas ha.
Hindi ho. Hindi ho.
Kasi ang sabi nila if kung maging exclusive baka, kasi si Fernando Poe
gumagapang na naman daw doon e.
Ay hindi ho, nasa akin ho yan.
Ok sige.
Sige po.
PGMA and Gary on 07 1610H June 04
Hello.
Hello.
Yes mam.
Did you get my text about the Tipo Tipo
Oho, oho Ma'm. Kuwan that is what I am being fearful about (garbled)
Ali
yon that is why we are asking people to look for her so that we can
confront her.
She's probably being held by them.
Ma'm.
She's probably being held by them already.
She is here, that is why if it is possible we will have her family call
her
up from Zamboanga.
Ok, ok.
Sige po Ma,m.
PGMA and Gary on 07 1917H June 04
Hello
Yes, Ma'm.
Ano nahanap na ninyo?
Ma'm.
Ano nahanap na ninyo yung sa Tipo Tipo?
Ang Tipo Tipo ho hindi pa. Ang nandito lang ho itong mga inaano nila
ngayon
kaya nga…
PGMA and Gary on 29 0947H May 2004
Hello, Ma'm.
Hello, 40 plus daw ang talo ko dun sa kuwan sa Cotabato?
Ma'm.
More than 40.
Siguro less, pero hindi siguro sosobra ng 40 Ma'm. Natapos na kami ni
Atty.
Vidol.
A, ganun, so mali yung figures ni Teng.
Siguro kasi si Teng kinausap niya yung staff ni Atty. Vidol, kami ni
Atty.
Vidol nagusap ho ngayon. But I will give the exact figure Ma'm in a
little
while.
Oo, oo
Para malaman ho ninyo.
Pero we ….
PGMA and Gary on 29 0943H
Hello.
Hello, Ma'm, good morning uli
Oo,oo
Ok man, sa Quick Count naming mas mataas ho siya pero mag-compensate ho
sa
Lanao yon.
So will I still lead more than 1 million?
More or less it's that advantage Ma'm, parang ganun din ang lalabas.
It could not be less than 1 million.
Oho. Pipilitin ho natin yan. Pero as of the other day its 982.
Kaya nga e.
Then if we can get more in Lanao.
Hindi pa ba tapos?
Hindi pa ho, meron pang kina-canvass darating na 7 municipalities.
Ah. ok. Oo
Sige po.
Ok,ok.
'Original'
Conversation between Gary and Mike (Arroyo) on 08 1433H June 04
Mike: Tulungan mo sana yung loyal sa atin. Si Bobby Barbers.
Gary: Sige, sir, nakabantay na yung mga abogado natin.
Mike: Nag-file ng… nag-file ng parang annulment or something tingnan
mo
kung matutulungan mo
Gary: Sige sir… talaga namang aming inaalalayan si Bobby eh…talaga
namang
siya yung atin
Mike: Oo siya, siya talaga ang atin. Tulungan mo sana
Gary: Ok
Mike: Thank you.
Conversation between Gary and Mike on 02 1156H June 2004
Gary: Hello
Mike: Sabi ni Bobby Barbers meron pa raw siyang...doon sa Lanao del
Sur.
Meron pa raw 7 municipalities pa.
Gary: Alin? Alin?
Mike: Meron pa raw siyang 7 municipalities sa Lanao del Sur
Gary: Hindi kasi ang kuwan dun sa Lanao del Sur 2 presinto sa Bayang, 4
na
presinto sa Madalin, 1 presinto sa Kapai. Yun na lang..
Mike: so bale lima
Gary: No, no pero presinto lang
Mike: Ah precinct lang
Gary: Oo wala namang 1,000 eh
Mike: Ang impresson dahil a Columbio meron pa raw 3rd siya.
Gary: Hindi wala na yung Columbio nakasama na nung kuwan
Mike: Sa tingin ko wala na rin.
Gary: Ang South Upi nang ilagay nila na merong 4,000. Pero kahit ano pa
wala pa rin hindi makakahabol
Mike: Ang Tawi-Tawi makakuha pa raw siya ng 750.
Gary: Lumalamang pa rin sa bilangan sa Tawi-Tawi eh. Alam mo talagang
binabantayan ng mga watchers natin sa Lanao Sur.
Mike: Anak ng Putsa! Hay naku, kawawa naman
Gary: O sige tawagan ko mamaya siya
Mike: Sige. Tawagan mo siya kung puwede
Gary: Sige
Mike: Thank you. Thank you
Conversation between Gary and Mike on 02 1023H June 2004
Gary: Hello
Mike: Hello. Si Mike to
Gary: Hello.
Mike: Kung puwede ho tulungan nyo si Bobby Barbers
Gary: Oo nga ho pero mahihirapan na siya medyo malabo siya sa Lanao del
Sur. Hindi na makakahabol sa Cotabato pero meron tayong mga abogado dun
MIKE: Ganon ba
GARY: Andito ho kami sa meeting ngayon e actually nag-usap na kami ni
senator
MIKE: OK.
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 31 2317H May 2004
Gary: Hello Mam
GMA: Hello saka yung sa kabila they are trying to get their Namfrel
copy of
municipal COCs.
Gary: Namfrel copies ho?
GMA: Oo.
Gary: Ay wala naman. Ok naman ang Namfrel sa atin. They are now
sympathetic
to us.
GMA: Oo pero it doesn't make sure (garbled) pero yun nga they are
trying to
get that
Gary: Oho we will get an advance copy ho natin kung ano ho ang kuwan
nila.
Sige ho.
Conversation between PGMA and Gary on or about 01 2143H June 2004
Gary: Hello, Mam.
GMA: Hello
Gary: Good evening Mam
GMA: When they opened the ballot box of Camarines Norte it was empty.
Gary: This afternoon Mam
GMA: Oo.
Gary: Camarines Norte?
GMA: Oo.
Gary: I'll call up the supervisor tonight or tomorrow Mam. Tanong ko
kung
bakit.
GMA: Si Carino?
Gary: Lisa Carino. Lisa Narino… She's not going to do that because
this guy
is a straight guy.
GMA: It was empty.
Gary: I will call her up Mam.
GMA: OK.
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 02 2229H June 2004
Gary: Hello Mam good evening
GMA: Hello. Dun ba sa Lanao del Sur tsaka sa Basilan di raw nagma-match
yung SOV sa COC.
Gary: (inaudible)
GMA: Di nagma-match
Gary: Di nagma-match? Baka honest mistake lang ho dahil sa pagod at
puyat
ng canvassers pero nire-review naman nila e at pag may mali, kino-korek
nila pero kung minsan nagkakamali sa pagbasa ng municipal COC pag di
malinaw. Nagbabantay naman ho yung mga watchers natin
GMA: Hindi nagma-match
Gary: Dapat mag-match talaga kasi yung COC galing lang sa total ng SOV
pino-post lang ng canvassers meron naman ho tayong watchers na
nagbabantay
ng canvassing as Lanao del Sur at Basilan. Yung Camarines Norte
transmit
naman daw yung COC sa Senate
GMA: Oo.
Gary: Na-receive na ho nila lahat e.
GMA: Oo.
Gary: Tumawag ho kayo kanina Mam?
GMA: Yah about that Lanao del Sur at Basilan.
Gary: Oho nagka-usap ko kami ni Abdullah dun sa kuwan kanina about
this.
Inaano ko ho huwag ho kayo masyadong mabahala anyway we will take care
of
this kakausapin ko rin si Atty. Makalintal.
GMA: Oo tapos non si ano tapos non si, Calanguyan meron daw silang
teacher
na nasa witness protection program ng kabila
Gary: Sino ho?
GMA: Yung kabila may teacher daw silang hawak.
Gary: Wala naman ho baka nananakot lang ho sila kasi yung kuwan
GMA: Calanguyan, Tawi-Tawi
Gary: Calanguyan, Tawi-Tawi. Wala naman hong watchers tayo dun eh. Talo
nga
tayo dun eh. Talo nga si Nur dun eh. Sige ho. Tsine-tsek ko ho.
GMA: Oo
Gary: Sige, aanuhin ko ho.
Conversation between PGMA and Gary on 06 1900H June 04
GMA: Hello
Gary: Hello Mam good evening tumawag po kayo
GMA: Oo sabi ni Teng dapat sigurado natin consistent yung mga documents
sa
Maguindanao
Gary: Yung kuwan hindi naman ho masyadong problema yung sa Maguindanao
pero
ano ho yung tinext ninyo kagabi na merong reports na ako daw ang source
GMA: Oo. Oo.
Gary: Pero pano san ho ba naman ang hindi ko maintindihan what is that
they
are trying to drive at with 120 days (garbled) establish ng (garbled)
GMA: Ok, Ok baka siguro more shot in the dark lang yon but I'm just
letting
you know everything I found out para we can always make the appropriate
remedies.
Gary: Oo Mam. Si Gen. Lomibao nasa Zamboanga na I had all the people
around
us talk to him so that they will be able to prevent what happened
GMA: Ok ok ok sige ok thank you
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 1104 26 May 2004
GMA: Hello
Gary: Hello Mam good morning
GMA: Si ano, si Biazon nagbabanta kung madadaya daw siya papabuksan daw
niya yung ano (garbled) tsaka Tawi-Tawi baka raw ako madale doon so
Gary: E baka nga ho
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 1125 26 May 2004
Gary: Hello Mam
GMA: Hello, Hello
Gary: Hello Mam
GMA: Hindi kaya puwedeng ma-delay yung senatorial canvassing until
after
the voting on the rules tonight.
Gary: On the rules, o sige po mag-uusap po kami ni Attorney.
GMA: Kasi mabubungkal sa Senate e para walang… magiging between 2
allies
ito siyempre magagalit ang dalawa di siya magta-tally for sure.
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 27 0729H May 2004
Gary: Hello Mam
GMA: Hello meron tayong schedule (garbled) PR para sa Sulu
Gary:…Mam
GMA: Sulu, Sulu
Gary: Oo. Mam meron
GMA: Nagko-correspond.
Gary: Oho Mam lahat po meron
GMA: Kumpleto. Ok sige ok ok
Gary: Ok sige Mam sige po
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 28 2213 May 2004
Gary: Hello
GMA: Hello
Gary: Hello good evening Mam good evening
GMA: The FPJ camp daw will file a case against the Board of Canvassers
dun
sa Marawi and the military?
Gary: Mam ano Mam?
GMA: The FPJ camp raw will file a case against the Board of Canvassers
and
military in Marawi?
Gary: Hindi naman ho siguro nila maaano ag ating Board of Canvassers
pero
ang military kasi si Gudani sa kanila si Gudani I do not know if they
will
file. Sa kanila si Gudani Mam that is why I had to work with Gen.
Esperon
and Gen. Kyamko na at that time pinalitan namin si Gudani for a while
kaya
kwan…sa kanila halos ayaw na ngang magpa..as aming mga tao.
GMA: Oo oo.
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 08 1751H June 04
Gary: Hello
(space)
Gary: Hello Mam
GMA: Ano ang gagawin natin dun sa Namfrel presscon kanina yung Namfrel
Lanao del Sur?
Gary: Inaano ko. Meron na ho akong kopya ng finax ni Nonong yung kay
Dalidig pero that is not true because I have already asked my staff
whom I
assigned Lanao Sur pagkatapos ho si Rey Lumipao. The supervisor is
coming
and then we will also try to make them say something after this.
Pagsasalitain ko sila ho without me, letting people know that I am
monitoring
GMA: Ok ok
Gary: So ganoon na lang ang kwanin natin
GMA: Ok
Gary: Sige ho mam ok po.
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 10 1340H June 04.
Gary: Hello
(space)
Gary: Mam good afternoon
GMA: Ano kinausap na kayo ni Abalos?
Gary: Oo Mam. Papasyal lang muna daw ho sya sa Mindanao. Kwan lang.
Kaya
nga ho kung ano man ho ang mga problema natin tawagan lang ho ninyo
ako.
GMA: May problema sa Southwood East pero local kasi iba-iba raw ang
ipin-roclaim ng Comelec doon
Gary: Sino ba atin doon
GMA: Ay naku ang importante na hindi madamay yung sa itaas.
Gary: Ay hindi ho may mga watchers ako doon eh
GMA: Kasi ang issue doon sabi ng…pero sabi naman ni…dapat gawin na
lang sa
munisipyo. Ako ho ang may mga watchers doon eh. So hindi maaapektuhan
sa
taas ah
Gary: Hindi ko. Hindi ho.
GMA: Kasi ang sabi nila…si Fernando Poe lumalaban na naman daw doon
e.
Gary: Ay hindi ho nasa akin ho yan
GMA: Ok sige
Gary: Sige ho.
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 07 1610H June 2004
Gary: Hello
GMA: Hello
Gary: Yes Mam
GMA: Did you get my text about the Tipo-Tipo?
Gary: Oho oho Mam kwan that is what I am being fearful about (garbled)
ah
yon that is why we are asking people to look for her so that we can __
her.
GMA: Shes probably being held by them.
Gary: Mam
GMA: Shes probably being held by them already.
Gary: she is here what is why if it is possible we will have her family
call her up from Zamboanga
GMA: Ok ok
Gary: Sige po Mam
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 07 1917H June 04
GMA: Hello
Gary: Yes Mam
GMA: Ano nahanap na ninyo
Gary: Mam
GMA: Nahanap ninyo yung sa Tipo-Tipo
Gary: Ang tipo-tipo ho hindi pa. Ang nandito lang ho itong mga inaano
nila
ngayon kaya nga
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 29 0947H May 2004
Gary: Hello Mam
GMA: Hello 40 plus daw ang talo ko dun sa kwan sa Cotabato
Gary: Mam.
GMA: More than 40.
Gary: Siguro less than pero hindi siguro sosobra ng 40 Mam. Patapos na
canvassing ni Atty. Vidol.
GMA: A ganun so mali yung figures ni Teng.
Gary: Siguro kasi si Teng kinausap niya yung staff ni Atty. Vidol kami
ni
Atty. Vidol nag-usap ho ngayon but I will give the exact figures Mam in
a
little while.
GMA: Oo oo
Gary: Para malaman ho ninyo
GMA: Pero we…
Conversation between Gary and PGMA on 28 0943H 2004
GMA: Hello
Gary: Hello Mam good morning ulit
GMA: Oo, oo
Gary: Ok Mam sa Quick Count namin mas mataas ho siya pero
mag-compensate ho
sa Lanao yun.
GMA: So will still lead by more than 1M?
Gary: More or less…that advantage Mam. Parang ganun din ang lalabas.
GMA: It could not be less than 1M?
Gary: Oho. Total na namin yan pero as of the other day its 982.
GMA: kaya nga e.
Gary: Kung maganda ang result ng Lanao.
GMA: Hindi pa ba tapos?
Gary: Hindi pa ho. Meron pang kina-canvass darating na 7
municipalities.
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Yeah, Why Bunye floated this idea in the first place? Right?Former Sen. Francisco Tatad alleged Malacañang insiders could have been behind the production of the audio recordings.
"The opposition does not have the capability to do this," Tatad said.
Tatad said the phone conversation of the President could have been recorded, with her permission, by "authorized" wiretappers in accordance with security measures enforced by the Presidential Security Group.
"But unfortunately one of the trusted men involved in the recordings could have slipped a copy of this particular VCD and tipped it to selective media entities and political groups. When Malacañang learned of this, they tried to contain the scandal by doctoring the contents of the VCD and then presenting them to the media," Tatad said.
– With Regina Bengco, Wendell Vigilia, JP Lopez, Albert Castro, Marilou Jumilla and Peter Tabingo
I think Atty. Paguia should divulged his tape. And also the video recordings. So that finallyu truth will come out.Ex-Erap lawyer says he made a tape, but not ‘spliced’ one
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BY JOAN DAIRO
A FORMER lawyer of President Joseph Estrada yesterday said he had prepared a tape, combining visual footage and audio recording, documenting "massive cheating" by the administration in the last elections, but it was not the same tape made public by Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye the other day.
Allan Paguia said, "The tape that is with me has a different content from the one that he (Bunye) has."
Atty Paguia said in a recent radio interview that, " if despite this new evidence of GMA in trying to influence the outcome of the elections and the people still wont beleive it, then I could say that we deserve our sufferings under this administration right now."
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Mr tolstoi said there is nothing new to the tape. He is like shrugging it like its no big deal. However, the reaction of Malacanang is far different. Please read below. This is taken from malaya newspaper.
Chilling indeed!Not quite panic in Malacañang; more like a mild tremor
This is the story we have so far pieced together from both opposition and administration sources, all of whom spoke to us on condition of anonymity. Pieces of the story are still missing, but it does look like the tale itself will unravel in the next few days.
The post-election wiretaps were apparently done by intelligence officers on orders from their superiors. The motives for the tapping remain unclear. Some sources say that they were probably tapping not so much the President (who has said that she frequently changed telephones) but Comelec Commissioner Virgilio Garcillano.
The CD containing the tapped conversations found its way to the opposition about a month ago. The original tape, both opposition and administration sources say, is about two hours long, and contains various conversations from late May to early June 2004. What Malacañang has so far released (see previous blogs) are portions of the tape in which the conversations of President Arroyo and her husband are included (May 26, 27, 28 and 31 and June 1, 2, 6, 8 and 10).
The opposition knew the tape was explosive but was also astute enough to know that it had to be released by a nonpartisan group. Besides, wiretapping is illegal. There were long discussions on how and when the tape should be released. A copy of the CD and the transcript were given to former Erap lawyer Allan Paguia, who was asked to look into the possible legal charges that could be brought against officials on the basis of the tapes.
Apparently, opposition sources say, Paguia, whose lawyer’s license was suspended in 2003 for conduct unbecoming of a lawyer, saw his chance to grab "15 minutes of fame." He made his own version of the CD, with only the juiciest conversations included and with himself as narrator. He also planned to release the tape himself. The other oppositionists, however, managed to dissuade him from doing so, but by now copies of various versions of the tape were in various hands.
It is not clear how the Palace got hold of the tape, but one opposition version is that Malacañang probably obtained copies released by oppositionist Herman Tiu Laurel, who was boasting at the Sulo Hotel on Saturday morning that he had distributed the CDs to soldiers going to Mindanao.
It is possible that Malacañang got hold of the CD from military sources. At any rate, the Palace insiders panicked when they learned that the tape was going to be released Monday, June 6. (Willie Villarama, who was Mrs. Arroyo’s chief of staff when she was senator, was actually texting journalists on Saturday, saying that the opposition was releasing a tape. The Palace seems to have gotten its information wrong, because the press conference scheduled Monday was one orchestrated by Homobono Adaza, who didn’t have the tape, and instead released some innocuous video footage).
Nonetheless, on Saturday, there was a frantic meeting between the President and her closest advisers. The tape was played, and someone who was there said "it could send chills down your spine." There was genuine concern and real worry about the implications of the recording. It was not quite panic, says one source, more like a mild tremor." Various options were discussed. The most extreme one, said an informed administration source, was that the First Gentleman should be "taken out" of the way. This option, however, has been discussed in many other previous palace meetings," the source said,
It was also at the Saturday meeting that it was decided that the Palace should preempt the opposition by issuing the statement about the destabilization plot.
Word about the meeting soon spread to the Cabinet and other Arroyo allies, all of whom appeared shaken Saturday night. "They all felt the tape was real," said one source.
Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye says that the "original tape," which involved not Garcillano but a certain "Gary" (identified today as Edgardo Ruado, chief of staff of Rep. Ignacio Arroyo) landed on his desk on Sunday. Opposition sources, however, say that "Gary" was the wiretapper’s code for Garcillano.
On Monday, Bunye released two versions of the tape, and it’s these versions which we’ve heard on radio and TV. Some sources say, however, that none of these versions is the real one. But someone, somewhere, has the master tape.
The tale is not over. We have been told that in the next few days, the "real" and longer version of the tape will come out, and with it, possibly also the officers who did the wiretaps.
Some questions. . .
1. why has Malacañang not yet revealed who "Gary" really is? What is so special about the identity of a minor political leader that he has to be coddled?. What are they waiting for? One suspects they also need some time to find someone whose voice approximates that of "Garci."
2. If Malacañang has the "original," shouldn’t Malacañang already know who did the illegal wiretap? Why beat around the bush, then? Tell us who did it and put these felons away.
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