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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    OT: Please allow me to give an analogy, could one consider a tractor to be the farm, it's a part of the farm, but not actually produced the farms products.

    @T: If GOD create the his church and you are against that church, then what you are to GOD.
    good one...

    a tractor isnt part of the farm, but can be used on a farm.... without the tractor.. it would be difficult for the farm to produce products.. therefore the tractor is independent from the farm..

    the 2nd sentence is a lot conflict here...
    1st.) which God?
    2nd) which is the correct church.. (many people died trying to impose their answer on this one)
    3rd.) what is god? isnt it just a creation of man's imaginative devices? if man created god.. and god created church.... therefore, church is also a product of man...
    4th.) is it really god who made the church?
    5th.) many extremist muslims consider christians as against god... their god...

    everthing is just how you see the world... if you see the world thru your biased perspectives.. then you will always be the good guy... the highest form of selfishness.. it is best to look at the world thru all possible perspectives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cptn_star View Post
    PRIDE...the five letter word that sent lucifer into a spinning crash to hell together with his demons...

    lucifer was ambitious... he may have reasons...

    he may have wanted to reign in hell than be somebody's b!@tcH in heaven..

    how lucy viewed god why rebelled.. we would never know... maybe he saw the big guy as an idiot.. sadly... that idiot is a lot lot powerful...

    lucy had a very very unpleasant day eversince....

    words of wisdom....

    never ever argue or go against someone who can and will definitely kick your butt bigtime no matter how big an @$$hole he is... just shut up and humble yourself.... whatever he does.. its always good... dont argue... absulute power has its perks.. hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    good one...

    a tractor isnt part of the farm, but can be used on a farm.... without the tractor.. it would be difficult for the farm to produce products.. therefore the tractor is independent from the farm..

    the 2nd sentence is a lot conflict here...
    1st.) which God?
    2nd) which is the correct church.. (many people died trying to impose their answer on this one)
    3rd.) what is god? isnt it just a creation of man's imaginative devices? if man created god.. and god created church.... therefore, church is also a product of man...
    4th.) is it really god who made the church?
    5th.) many extremist muslims consider christians as against god... their god...

    everthing is just how you see the world... if you see the world thru your biased perspectives.. then you will always be the good guy... the highest form of selfishness.. it is best to look at the world thru all possible perspectives...
    It is always confusing and complicated to those who does not believe.
    Are we sure that what we already know presently is really ultimate. The world is still evolving and our knowledge did not yet reach it's pinnacle. Then what about science in it's most advance state would find out that there is really a spirit world or some sort, for now it's seem impossible but what seems impossible before is in fact possible now.So everything is yet inconclusive.

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    What am I?
    tao....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    It is always confusing and complicated to those who does not believe.
    its not that i dont believe.. i just like to use my brain to question the universe...

    for me, accepting answers made by our ancestors is a form of laziness...

    i have a thirst for knowledge....

    religion gives a biased perspective of the universe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    its not that i dont believe.. i just like to use my brain to question the universe...

    for me, accepting answers made by our ancestors is a form of laziness...

    i have a thirst for knowledge....

    religion gives a biased perspective of the universe...
    Yup, I agree, that is why there is that big bang theory and for religion is what being called creation, it is all there to believe, and the only thing lacking is to prove. Then do we have the capacity to prove without any doubt which is true and factual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    its not that i dont believe.. i just like to use my brain to question the universe...

    for me, accepting answers made by our ancestors is a form of laziness...

    i have a thirst for knowledge....

    religion gives a biased perspective of the universe...
    that's the beauty with i dont know, i want to know VS. god did it.(that settles it)

    Then do we have the capacity to prove without any doubt which is true and factual.
    start dumping those FAITH AS EVIDENCES mumbo jumbo. those things really dont hold any water...unless you consider self deceit as form of positive COPING mechanism.

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    start dumping those FAITH AS EVIDENCES mumbo jumbo. those things really dont hold any water...unless you consider self deceit as form of positive COPING mechanism.

    So then, we could consider scientific theories are forms of self deceit, scientist put their faith on these mumbo jumbo as well.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    start dumping those FAITH AS EVIDENCES mumbo jumbo. those things really dont hold any water...unless you consider self deceit as form of positive COPING mechanism.

    So then, we could consider scientific theories are forms of self deceit, scientist put their faith on these mumbo jumbo as well.............
    seriously...would you take somebody's miracle concoction out of FAITH(as your evidence), hoping it will do the job. com'on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    seriously...would you take somebody's miracle concoction out of FAITH(as your evidence), hoping it will do the job. com'on.
    It is always been our nature to be hypothetical, science does as well, but as always we have that ethusiasm and curiosity in exploring what should be factual and true. GOD gave us intellect to understand things and perhaps a bestowed tool to know him as well.

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