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  1. #91

    Quote Originally Posted by madredrive View Post
    these are talents bro that are Inherited by God and if mo ingon kag evil, wa nalay kwenta ang mga ministers sa church nga maka heal? don't judge dretso bro, there is good and evil pud bya..
    don't jump to conclusions if you can't even jump
    bro ambot lng kng motuo ka ani? everyone else is capable of healing himself! Have u seen the
    documentary man tingali to about the "secret". naa dd2 gibutang nga ang positive emotion
    ug faith can heal a person even cancer. Naay cancer patient nga naayo tungod ra kay tanang
    negative feelings niya iya gikuha,she/he reconciled to those persons nga naa xa conflict before.
    Basta naa xa testimony ani ug i search ninyo sa internet,it's really true. I'll post soon if
    makakita na ko pra naa koy proof.
    U knw kanang mga giingon nga miracle,like nagluha ang rebulto? nya ipahid ra ang panyo dd2,
    den ipahid pud sa naay sakit, nya mo testify cla nga ni ayo cla tungod ato? it's not true!
    Sila ra sad ang nag ayo sa ilang self sa tinuod lng, tungod ra sa ilang faith. Our body is capable
    of healing without taking medicine, ask your doctors kay tinuod na!
    Kani na lng jud bhala dili mo motuo sa uban nako gisulti...SATAN IS THE GREATEST DECEIVER!
    You can't see him as evil, he may even pretend to be like a sheep!...

  2. #92
    @sleep_not: i would have to agree with you on that. a healing state is a mere product of the person/patient's belief that he/she can actually be healed. a strong faith can create a positive aura in one's body, and has biological (positive) effects as a result.

    i don't believe in healers. what i believe, though, is the fact that a person has the ability to heal himself by believing HE CAN be healed through his own positive energy (faith).

    the weeping statues and icons is a bunch of BS. even the Catholic church don't embrace such miracles.
    Last edited by chad_tukes; 09-18-2008 at 11:05 PM.

  3. #93
    @madredrive: there is no concrete proof that healers can actually heal. there are even more FAKES than there are REAL. remember the SURGERY without ANESTHESIA? kuotan ang organs sa ilawm gamiton ang fingers?? LOL.

  4. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by madredrive View Post
    these are talents bro that are Inherited by God and if mo ingon kag evil, wa nalay kwenta ang mga ministers sa church nga maka heal? don't judge dretso bro, there is good and evil pud bya..
    don't jump to conclusions if you can't even jump

    I'm not saying nga kanang magheal is evil, were talking about the powers here nga gi prohibit ni God
    nga ato gamiton kay it's evil...

    ako ni gi cut nga naa sa kani nga link para makita nyo.
    naa pa ni daghan nga reference, dugay nako cge ug basa ani, kalimot nako sa uban nga article
    kng asa na to dapit

    As the Bible says, evil spirits are active in astrology, some types of fortune-telling or soothsaying, mediums, the occult, etc.

    "Dorothy Story" # 1427 is the real story about a lady who became
    involved in the occult. Evil spirits created disturbances in
    her house, and made appearances to some individuals. The spirits
    tried to get her to kill herself. Dorthy practiced astral projection,
    telekinesis, automatic writing, etc. In time an evil spirit began to
    torment her. She received help when she cried to God for help.
    Finally she called upon Jesus to save her. You can read her short
    story in a small booklet you can obtain from "Unshackled," or Pacific
    Garden Mission 646 South State Street Chicago Il 60605.


    2nd Corinthians 11:14-15= Satan and his angels can appear as angels
    of righteousness and light

    Leviticus 20:6= God will separate himself from those who go after
    mediums and familiar spirits.

    Isaiah 47:13-14= Astrologers and stargazers won't be able to save
    Babylon.

    Acts 16:16-18= A girl was possessed by an evil spirit that enabled
    her to be a fortune-teller. Paul commanded the evil spirit to come
    out of her in the name or authority of Jesus. The evil fortune
    telling spirit left her.

    1st Samuel 15:23= Witchcraft is a sin like rebellion.
    2nd Chronicles 33:6= King Manasseh angered God by practicing
    witchcraft, sorcery, using mediums, etc.

    kini pud gikan ni sa website sa THE JOY OF SATAN

    Telekinesis

    content:
    Telekinesis is the ability of the mind to move objects, through concentration. This is very advanced and you will need a very powerful aura. We all have this ability, but due to centuries of xian generational suppression of the powers of the mind, it is a part of our brain that is now dormant. Like learning a gymnastics maneuver, with getting the *feel* for it and using it, it will become easier and easier with time, dedication and patience.
    Everything on this Earth contains an energy field or aura, even inanimate objects. With performing telekinesis, you must connect your aura with aura of the object you intend to move. The strength of your aura will determine your success.
    The following exercises help in developing telekinesis. You should be experienced with energy manipulation and have powerful hand chakras. In order to work up to this, the Foundation Meditation and the hand chakra meditation should be mastered.
    This exercise is best done after power meditation when your aura is strong.

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    @madredrive: there is no concrete proof that healers can actually heal. there are even more FAKES than there are REAL. remember the SURGERY without ANESTHESIA? kuotan ang organs sa ilawm gamiton ang fingers?? LOL.
    hahaha! kani concrete proof! experienced in everyday life!

  6. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    hmmm. i know which istoryan is most likely to say this. lol.
    hehe.obviously!...

  7. #97
    [QUOTE=tokidoki;3289590]@cosplay

    pila pusta kanang usa ka istoryan diri na forum mosulti napud na na EVIL ang telekinses(gikan ni satan). Just like everything in his life is evil. LOL[/QUOT

    @tokidoki
    hehehe. If kini nga abilidad bro sa tawo kanang withcraft, fortune telling, telekinesis,pyrokinesis
    ug uban pang spell kng gi tolerate ni sa simbahan ug gi ingon ba nga ok ra ni xa, mo ingon ta ko
    arang2x makatuo ko gamay, but samot wla ko kita ani nga naa ni sa bible, ambot lng kng telekinesis
    ba to gamit ni moises pagbuak sa dagat! LOL. but the Exodus is the most questionable nga part sa
    bible. D man ta maayong laki ani sa bible, but at least naa pud ta nahibaw an gamay nga sakto.
    Just consult your priests and pastors na lng kng evil ba ni or good kaning akng gisulti.
    nya post diri mga references sa bible to prove nga ok ra para ma convince ko ninyo nga ok ra
    kay tabangan pa ta mo pangita source unsaon ni pra inyo na ma perform!

  8. #98
    we are not debating here we are just curios if naa kahibaw ba diri.. if mag debate mo himo mo inyo laing thread... the question is simple.. telekinesis naay kahibaw diri? wala ko ni ingon na telekinesis is it a bad thing or a good thing...

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    @madredrive: there is no concrete proof that healers can actually heal. there are even more FAKES than there are REAL. remember the SURGERY without ANESTHESIA? kuotan ang organs sa ilawm gamiton ang fingers?? LOL.
    there is no concrete proof bitaw pero saun taman nganung ang mga taw mo believe man nga na healed sila its not physically nga na healed ang person its psychologically, spiritually and etc.. pero fake man jud to.. its your faith that can heal you..

  10. #100
    hehe...we're not on debate here. concern lng mi sa mga tawo nga wa kahibalo the truth about that.
    Karn kahibalo naka, i respect your stand on this... peace

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