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    in deeds... not by faith
    Ephesians 2:8-9
    For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
    not by works, so that no one can boast.


  2. #92

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    by having a symbol in front of you...helping you to grasp a concept of God in your mind while praying
    of course, im not saying it's a necessity for prayer...but walang mali rin naman dun
    it's not idolatry...iba un...idolatry is worshipping another being
    John 4:19-24
    19"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."
    21Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."


  3. #93

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    up for this thread...nice discussion...

  4. #94

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhongskee View Post
    bro sorry if you think i had violated forum rules kung naa man do inform me. surprising lang kaayo ni si Mr Churchill (with due respect to him) kay ni react siya sa ako question for HELLblazer, im refering to page 1 of this thread, you can check bai sa akong previous post, if you think naa koy sayop...then my apologies but i guess i deserve to be informed.
    Discussing what you believe is fine, but you went too far when you implied Hellblazer no longer has significance with his own life just because he doesn't believe what you believe. You don't even know him, for all you know he could be a good, moral person that just doesn't practice religion. Don't impose and don't judge, everyone is entitled to their own reasons why they converted to another religion or discard it. Just because you dont agree doesnt make them wrong or any less of a person than everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrE View Post
    Discussing what you believe is fine, but you went too far when you implied Hellblazer no longer has significance with his own life just because he doesn't believe what you believe. You don't even know him, for all you know he could be a good, moral person that just doesn't practice religion. Don't impose and don't judge, everyone is entitled to their own reasons why they converted to another religion or discard it. Just because you dont agree doesnt make them wrong or any less of a person than everyone else.

    thanks.....but i want to emphasize im not judging nor am i trying to impose my belief, in fact i am leaving them extra space to at least minimise the significance of by offering reasons or excuses of their being. And i supposed we shud hear it from hellblazer himself....

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    hmmmm....i was baptized in catholic...but wen i grew up...my m0m decided to change religion.. ni jehovah's na sya... but im back to cathloic nasad now na im married na....maybe complicated ra kau ang ilaha pagtuo ..but there are things na i find true sa ilaha religion huh....daghan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueleigh25 View Post
    hmmmm....i was baptized in catholic...but wen i grew up...my m0m decided to change religion.. ni jehovah's na sya... but im back to cathloic nasad now na im married na....maybe complicated ra kau ang ilaha pagtuo ..but there are things na i find true sa ilaha religion huh....daghan...
    views appreciated!!!!!!

  8. #98

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    wala gypon ang mga ADD.. guys if by today wala gypon sila il try to post my reasons why i asked/started this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhongskee View Post
    thanks.....but i want to emphasize im not judging nor am i trying to impose my belief, in fact i am leaving them extra space to at least minimise the significance of by offering reasons or excuses of their being. And i supposed we shud hear it from hellblazer himself....
    then word your thoughts a little more carefully next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhongskee View Post
    Actually kon basahon gyod nimo ang bible daghan jod ka makita nga mga practices sa ubang church nga wala sa bible, problem is maski unsa paka nga sect bible jod na ato basis. Daghan man moingon, adto ta didto kay maayo didto kay naa tay kagawasan, di ta dinha kay bawal diha inom, sigarelyo ug sugal.......given all these bawals.....di ba mas maayo hinoon ni? Kon susihon nimo ang mga teaching sa born again x'tians wa man kay makita nga will make you bad. For instance kining graven images, i used to vow before them sauna, sa amo parokya b4, gikawat bitaw na.....kon imo hunahunaon, ako idol gikawat, meaning to say ni worship ka sa usa ka butang kay kon tawo pana kidnap man, the same na ka ana sa nag worship sa elepante , sa bitoon, botelya sa coke....etc. nganong di man hinoon ka mo worship anang dili jod makawat.
    see how little you knew about your faith before? You actually believe in worshiping graven images. We Catholics are not taught to worship images. I guess ikaw ra cguro nadala ug worship ug images.

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