Second Look on Islam

[Malic]

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Hi Malic,

Is it true that Islam is both a religion and a government? I had seen an interview on tv about Muslim armed struggles somewhere in Mindanao, they wanted to have an independent islamic state in their area because they want to apply Islamic laws to the independent state they wanted to establish. But this cannot be done under our present centralized government, maybe if we go federal, we can do something about it. But for the meantime, armed struggles will continue in that part of Mindanao, good there is already ARMM. Its like politics and religion mixing up actually.

What can you say about this?

Thanks.

Some would interpret it that way.

Do you have any idea how the land of mindanao was given to the govt? Dont you know that Mindanao was never conquered by the spaniards,americans and the japanese. What these people are asking is, give mindanao back to them, Honor the promised of the early govt.

I dont want this thread to be political. Its under S&R so lets talk religion. hehe


here is a link...read it! MIAKADODO

[Malic]

My egyptian muslim officemate told me Mohammad had nine wives. Unsa man gyuy tinuod?

tinood na.

[bcasabee]

I think the issue on ancestral domains is not something religious. I believe it is the right of the original owners to take back what the land grabbers stole from them.
I just want to focus on the issue on the fusion of religion and the state. I even believe that what the US is doing to IRAQ (making them democratic) is not a good idea because IRAQ is an Islamic state from the start, therefore, democratic concepts like freedom of speech and expression is very much contrary to the Islamic culture of that area.
So in your opinion, Is it better to separate the church and the state?

Some would interpret it that way.

Do you have any idea how the land of mindanao was given to the govt? Dont you know that Mindanao was never conquered by the spaniards,americans and the japanese. What these people are asking is, give mindanao back to them, Honor the promised of the early govt.

I dont want this thread to be political. Its under S&R so lets talk religion. hehe


here is a link...read it! MIAKADODO

[Malic]

I think the issue on ancestral domains is not something religious. I believe it is the right of the original owners to take back what the land grabbers stole from them.
I just want to focus on the issue on the fusion of religion and the state. I even believe that what the US is doing to IRAQ (making them democratic) is not a good idea because IRAQ is an Islamic state from the start, therefore, democratic concepts like freedom of speech and expression is very much contrary to the Islamic culture of that area.
So in your opinion, Is it better to separate the church and the state?

ah okay sorry for some lapses.

No.

[bcasabee]

I think your right, the question is already somewhat political. Ok ra pud kung dili nalang nimo i answer.

[Malic]

I think your right, the question is already somewhat political. Ok ra pud kung dili nalang nimo i answer.

na answer na nako sir pero lets not stretch na lang hehe.

[splendid moonlight]

tinood na.

Oh ok. I thought I saw you post in the previous pages that Mohammad was a monogamist.

[MojaveKid]

Why did the prophet Muhammad peace be unto him, marry a six year old girl?

At the Battle of the Trench, why did Muhammad approve the beheading of some 600-900 individuals who surrendered unconditionally after a siege that lasted several weeks?

Why did Muhammad tolerate slavery?

The prophet Muhammad's reasons for marriage are love, compassion, political. It was not uncommon at that time for Ayesha to get married at such an age.

At the Battle of the Trench, Muhammad agreed that an arbitrator be chosen among the vanquished tribes.
The arbitrator chose death for the whole Qurayza tribe.

Slavery was accepted during those times. Muhammad knew the inequality between the slaves and their masters. In Islam, slaves are treated with kindness and the masters are urged to free their slaves. But lets get this clear ha, Islam does not advocate one to enslave another.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

asalam alaikum,
sadiq malic, why is it necessary for a muslim woman to cover her hair? what is your take about some muslim women who chose not to cover their hair?

[MRchurchill]

Sir if you are going to question an ancient culture w/in the context of modern interpretation, we will be in a state of confusion.


Now if you are asking these questions and looking for answers w/in the context of that time then maybe i can answer you satisfactorily.

So w/c of these criteria does your questions belong?

You are very kind thank you. Please answer me in the context of that time.

The prophet Muhammad's reasons for marriage are love, compassion, political. It was not uncommon at that time for Ayesha to get married at such an age.

At the Battle of the Trench, Muhammad agreed that an arbitrator be chosen among the vanquished tribes.
The arbitrator chose death for the whole Qurayza tribe.

Slavery was accepted during those times. Muhammad knew the inequality between the slaves and their masters. In Islam, slaves are treated with kindness and the masters are urged to free their slaves. But lets get this clear ha, Islam does not advocate one to enslave another.

Thank you for answering my questions objectively.

1. So Muhammad consummated that marriage out of love, compassion, and for political reasons when Ayesha was nine years old? Doesn't seem so saintly to me.

2. So Muhammad chose to wash his hands when he could have saved lives? Pilate is vilified in Christianity for having done the same to Christ but Muhammad is made the prophet of Islam.

3. So Muhammad tolerated the practice instead of making a stand? Doesn't he advocate dying in defense of the religion? Hold your ground in the name Islam but look the other way when you see slavery.

Sad.