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    @kenshiro

    Why deviate from the Bible in a different explanation when it is self explanatory.
    He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.
    Daniel 7:25

    Do you think that bible will interpret by itself without an interpreter or authority ? If its self explanatory, why protestant/evangelical churches have different interpretations of the alleged self explanatory message from the book?

    Let me give you a bunch of contradicting doctrines from protestant who believe the bible is self perspicuous and self interpreting;

    1. Why protestant churches don't agree about the requirements of baptism?

    2. Why protestant churches don't believe the importance of priesthood but others do?

    3. Why protestant churches have different views or stands about contraception?

    4.Why other protestant churches don't believe about eternal damnation but others do?

    5. Why protestant churches don't have a uniform doctrine about same *** marriage?


    Who deviated the true teachings of the bible among the protestant sects?


    It is the Anti Christ is responsible for changing the laws of God. And too many people are duped to follow in the doctrine of the traditions of man by compromising or changing the law of God, knowingly and unknowingly.

    2 Thess. 2:15 “Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.”

    Is this an anti Christ doctrine when the bible whom you regard as the sole authority in terms of faith said that hold the traditions.


    The inquisition is established to the sole purpose of persecuting, suppressing or killing the protestants. For this was a threat to their doctrine or practice.
    I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly astonished.
    Revalation 17:6
    really?

    Do you know that there was inquisition done by the protestants in the past?

    Let us consult history. do you know that champions of Protestantism - Luther, Calvin, Beza, Knox, Cranmer and Ridley advocated the right of the civil authorities to punish the `crime' of heresy.

    Asked those reliable people in history and you will know; Johann von Dollinger,Hartmann Grisar,Comte, Henry Hallam, and Francois Guizot.

    Do you know that Luther advocated witch hunts when he said ""I would have no compassion on these witches; I would burn them all."

    Philip Hughes informs us that:

    "In Scotland, 1560-1600 (then Calvinist), some 8,000 women were burnt as witches - the total population was around 600,000." (45:273)


    and according to Karl Keating "In Britain 30,000 went to the stake for witchcraft; in Protestant Germany the figure was 100,000 . . . If the Inquisition establishes the falsity of Catholicism, the witch trials establish the falsity of Protestantism."

    You have poor knowledge about history. It was Luther who was the one modified the Christian bible. The books he removed were Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, and Baruch. While initially wanting to remove at least one book (The Epistle of James, because it contradicts Luther’s teaching that faith alone is needed for salvation [James Chapter 2]) from the New Testament, Luther ultimately decided to keep the Catholic New Testament in full.

    aside from that Janssen writes of a hypocritical instance of Luther's censorship (1529):

    "Luther . . . set his pen in motion concerning this Catholic translation of the Bible. 'The freedom of the Word,' which he claimed for himself, was not to be accorded to his opponent Emser . . . When . . . he learnt that Emser's translation . . . was to be printed . . . at Rostock, he not only appealed himself to his follower, Duke Henry of Mecklenburg, with the request that 'for the glory of the evangel of Christ and the salvation of all souls' he would put a stop to this printing, but he also worked on the councillors of the Elector of Saxony to support his action. He denied the right and the power of the Catholic authorities to inhibit his books; on the other hand he invoked the arm of the secular authorities against all writings that were displeasing to him." (111;v.14:503-4)



    Modern protestantism is also being ravaged by this influence. By not basing their teachings on the Bible alone.
    Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
    They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
    Revelation 16:13-14

    It is to no surprise that you have sided with the enemy of Christ.
    Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
    Leviticus 18:22

    But it is not too late Jesus can forgive sins and for people to live in faith and upright
    "Those who are well do not need a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
    Luke 5:31-32

    Well we are man it is a lot easier to be a man and carnal than to be spiritual.
    The Bible doesn't teach hatred but respect to God and love for fellow men.

    I am a Bible believer not fanatic since I don't force my teachings to all people or kill people if they don't believe what I believe,
    I don't curse people who dont believe in the Bible instead I reason with them.
    If you think helping the poor is fanaticism then something is wrong with you or your society.
    What is the relevance of the bible verses to sola scriptura?

    Do you believe that our belief towards sacred traditions and holy scripture unbiblical?

    Now give a verse in the bible that supports the doctrine of bible alone is the sole authority ?

    Can you give me a verse in the bible that clearly Christ to publish a bible and make it as the sole authority in terms of faith and morals?

    Can you find a word bible in the bible itself?

    Why you bashed the Church who believe both holy tradition and holy scripture when in fact that church (Catholic) was the one compiled the bible that your using? Without the Magisterium you don't have the bible in the first place.

  2. #452

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    ^

    mao gni bro, If the Bible were the only sole source of authority or the SOLE Scripture, then God must be illiterate because he only has one book to speak for him, whereas humans can write dozens of books on just about anything.

  3. #453

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    sakto ka bro in resurgence in fact dili ma contain o mabutang sa libro ang gingharian sa Ginoo. Kining adherents sa sola scriptura wala nakit-an nila nga wala sad ni sa biblie. As I have said on my previous post nga mismo si Kristo, ug mga apostoles wala ni ingon nga mo publish ug bible aron mao ray sole authority that rejects the apostolic authority from Peter to popes. Kini nag pasabot nga ang bible importante sad pareha sa apostolic tradition. Nahimo lang ning bible kato nga time nga naa nay printing press. kung walay apostolic succession ug holy tradition sa unang mga Christiano wala libro nga mahitabo. Kay kining bible nahimo ni tungod sa holy tradition, nga ang holy tradition gi sulat sa libro.

  4. #454

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    ^

    mao gni bro, If the Bible were the only sole source of authority or the SOLE Scripture, then God must be illiterate because he only has one book to speak for him, whereas humans can write dozens of books on just about anything.
    Bro, do not belittle God's word. even a single God's word will lasts to eternity. and youll compare it with your knowledge and dozens of writings? how poor you are.

    You do not understand God's wisdom in the bible.

  5. #455

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Bro, do not belittle God's word. even a single God's word will lasts to eternity. and youll compare it with your knowledge and dozens of writings? how poor you are.

    You do not understand God's wisdom in the bible.
    And so do you. So please don't pretend that you actually do [understand]. Why are you so gullible with your blind faith that you even failed to read between the lines? Seesh.

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