MERGED: Osama Bin Laden is dead.. (White House confirms)

[reptoid]

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I know why they destroy stranded hardware. I just couldn't see how anyone could walk away from a crash which was serious enough to disable the chopper.... unless they'd already disembarked.

[Sand Man]

"most likely"?

The 4 NSW squads that were involved in OP Geronimo were a DA (direct action) force, differentiated from an SR (surveillance/recon), or a QRF (quick reaction force). The SEALs in the "Tears of the Sun" movie were geared more like an SR force, considering the fact that they wore no kevlar armor (PACA) or plates (MBSS PC).

A more accurate image of OP Geronimo DA loadout would be like this:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3175/30179108dg2.jpg

Which means the presence PACA+MBSS+ballistic helmet(MICH2000/2002 or IBH), except maybe the BDU could be black/night or the new AOR2.

-RODION

A lot of the news sites and the interviews from former operators are saying the group that did the raid was NSWDG so the shooters would most probably look a lot like this:

https://www.istorya.net/forums/hobbie...ml#post9653858

This guy:
YouTube - Former Navy Seal: 'It's Just Go, Go, Go'

...and this guy:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/navy...ection=1206833

Cheers.

[rodsky]

at the time of the operation, the best cover they're gonna get is from an AC130 spectre... w/c is an upgrade of the c130, it is equiped w/ chain guns, & big guns.. night vision, infra red cams.. its actually playable in COD if you play the game.. why the AC130? while the op is going on inside the mansion, any reinforcements w/c would come near the mansion (tanks & cars), the spectre would blow it in a few seconds & it will hover higher than the choppers so it is safer from ground fire & it will be equipped to neutralize shoulder fired heat seaking rockets.. the ac130 spectre is the perfect logical choice for cover fire in this mission..

Based on my sources there was no AC130 gunship nearby because that particular area was high risk in terms of collateral damage (there's a girl's school with dormitory just 200 meters south of that compound). A specter cannot do any "spot-and-gun" because the escape routes (roads) would all pass by residential areas--imagine blowing up a non-hostile Pakistani upper-middle-class home by accident, and how that would play in US Media. Since this is a surgical op, the best surgical air compliment would be Longbows/Supercobras plus "The Beast of Kandahar" acting as "eye in the sky"...


Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

-RODION

[Sand Man]

Q2: as explained b4, they might've damaged the tail rotor w/c would leave little control of the aircraft, better to detonate it & hitch another ride, why detonate it? because most of the blackhawk's hardware would still be classified to civilians & ordinary people.. what if they dont detonate it & they couldnt secure the place, looting from civilians & more frigteningly from the enemy might happen.. so the most logical thing to do is to detonate the wreckage..

The term is Reverse Engineering. If the birds carried relatively new technology, the enemy can take a look at the insides of the on-board comms and computers and learn about what hardware, frequencies, etc. these units are using.

Same reason they blew up the downed choppers in Black Hawk Down.

Q1 & Q3: i dont think the choppers were hovering the whole time the assault took place, at the given time of 38 mins. ,these choppers would be not really sitting ducks (since they're equipped w/ chain guns w/c would fire 3000 rounds per minute) BUT they could be vulnerable to rpg attacks & ground fire.. the logical way to do this is the choppers drop the seal team, make exit.. & another fleet of choppers would be arriving to pick them up after the operation (since i think they already have a timeline how long the OP is going to run)

See this video: YouTube - Special Forces assault building similar to Bin Laden attack

There is a reason they refer to the other birds circling above as QRF (Q meaning "Quick"). How can they be 'quick' to support the assaulting troops in they 'make exit' to another location? And these birds can hover in the air for hours. Remember the C2 bird in BHD? It was hovering above Somalia for most of the raid.

RPGs can only go up at a certain distance in the air then it eats up its propulsion and falls out of the sky. The 160th have learned their lessons from Somalia.

And no, they do not know how long exactly the op will last. They may have an idea based on their simulated assaults, but the unknowns going into the raid are still there.

at the time of the operation, the best cover they're gonna get is from an AC130 spectre... w/c is an upgrade of the c130, it is equiped w/ chain guns, & big guns.. night vision, infra red cams.. its actually playable in COD if you play the game.. why the AC130? while the op is going on inside the mansion, any reinforcements w/c would come near the mansion (tanks & cars), the spectre would blow it in a few seconds & it will hover higher than the choppers so it is safer from ground fire & it will be equipped to neutralize shoulder fired heat seaking rockets.. the ac130 spectre is the perfect logical choice for cover fire in this mission..

Spectre gunships are great for CAS and I've read on several occasions that they can perform danger close operations -- but I am not sure if they are reliable this close to the troops.

Better do some reading here...


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[Albrecht]

dili man daw armado si bin laden pagraid..?

[cliff_drew]

Osama Bin Laden's Compound

Osama bin Laden's Compound - Photos - WSJ.com

[Buzz Killington]

samoka aning mga spam sa facebook oi about bin laden's photos kuno kalit lang ug gawas bisan wa nagpost ang user. nganu makalusot man nis facebook mr zuckerberg

[Albrecht]

samoka aning mga spam sa facebook oi about bin laden's photos kuno kalit lang ug gawas bisan wa nagpost ang user. nganu makalusot man nis facebook mr zuckerberg

nah naa bayay virus daw sa fb if naa ka iview na file bout bin laden..

[cliff_drew]

nah naa bayay virus daw sa fb if naa ka iview na file bout bin laden..

Osama malware scams spread to Facebook ? The Register

[diatabz]

Tungod na sa EMP, mao na crush ang helicapterr! hahahaha... Other explanation is daghan ug negative Ion content(due to Arid/cold climate) mao nang na short circuit ang electronics)... Hahahaha... Hahahaha... It's hard to take it seriously... just to stimulate your thoughts...

Conspiracy becomes truth and truth became a fiction...

Salamat sa pag start ani na topic... MAke my Day..! PUNK

Conspiracy theorists: Smashing through all known boundaries of logic.

You can put bin Laden's head in a jar of formalin and put it on display at the Smithsonian, and you'd still get conspiracy theorists.