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    Default Re: RSA Animate - Changing Education Paradigms


    it's just that there is a degree of "stickiness" with these old ideas, especially if the current modes of operation still exist to benefit from such ideas. nevermind that there is a flourishing change in the whole scientific terrain; as such are still being used to fit the habits and appetites of the old and tired modes.

    admittedly, things are changing. soon old paradigms will wither and die, or will just shed some few old layers of skin. but vestigial institutions and ways of thinking will remain to hamper down on how things will operate and how we think about things later on.

    the challenge of a new paradigm is not just to show a better and more effective alternative to the existing paradigm, but to also challenge those who benefit from the old on their own playing field. like all changes, it will be a painful and perhaps a bloody one, as the old guard will always not give in without a fight.

    and for old paradigms to finally fall, the new organism that it tries to control should be too big, too strong, and too uncontrollable that it will break the old definitions apart. as it appears, technological advancements and even environmental degradation might turn out to be giants tamed easily by the current, but ageing worldview.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    the underlying foundations of how our world works is NOW changing before our eyes--if the system cannot adapt, it will crumble, and a new system (with a new system of educating our young), shall take place.
    -RODION
    We need to adapt or blend in to the system Rods.
    Unsa pasabot nimo new system Rods? a totally different system jud?

    Ako lang nakit-an nga medyo alanganin sa systema sa edukasyon diri sa pinas kay kanang "Spoon Feeding". Students cannot argue more or discuss about what they believed to be right. Nga ang tanan isulti sa maestra sakto jud.

    Sample: Moon Landing or any other theories.

    daghan na kaayo ta mga conventional methods, apan kadtong nagmalampuson o kadtong naka-ambag sa kauswagan kay kadto mang mga tawo nga wala mosubay sa kasagaran nga pama-agi.

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    what Sir Ken Robinson tries to point out is the development of the current educational system from its Enlightenment roots, being expressed in the language of the Industrial Age, and the flaws that it has as it tries to adapt itself to the new demands of this age. these are valid points to begin with.

    but i think most of the concerns that he has expressed have already been addressed by Henry Giroux and Paulo Freire under Critical pedagogy.

    it is heavily political, but addresses some, if not all of the points that Sir Ken Robinson raised with the problems of what is valued in education, as well as the political expression science has as it is taught in schools.
    Last edited by gareb; 05-03-2011 at 12:31 PM.
    “What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    We need to adapt or blend in to the system Rods.
    Says who? Says you?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    Unsa pasabot nimo new system Rods? a totally different system jud?
    Once upon a time, our "ideal" system in this country was a system composed of Spanish friars who maintained an iron fist rule over the Filipino people. Now that system is gone. One day, this current system you live in now, will also be gone, and replaced by a better one. Robinson is merely nudging us in that direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    Ako lang nakit-an nga medyo alanganin sa systema sa edukasyon diri sa pinas kay kanang "Spoon Feeding". Students cannot argue more or discuss about what they believed to be right. Nga ang tanan isulti sa maestra sakto jud.
    Perhaps in the school you graduated from, ing ana imong na experience--the schools I've been to, students are allowed to express what they want and they can argue against teachers without getting expelled or suspended. So ayaw i-generalize nga tanang schools are like what you say they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    Sample: Moon Landing or any other theories.
    Manned moon landings are fact, not theory. It is your incapacity to understand basic principles of physics that lets you fail to accept this issue. And may I remind you that the manned moon landings are non-debate topic here in the science section--we here treat it as FACT--if you want to continue arguing about this, go to Soul Doctor's thread. Pag i mention pa nimo nga theory lang ang Apollo landings here, I'll give you a custom infraction.

    -RODION

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    Default Re: RSA Animate - Changing Education Paradigms

    "Not a victim"

    -But in my school environment, makes me think that I'm one. Oh well, I go alone with my own free will, without hindrances and subject on my own judgment of things.

    Spoiler! 
    I hate cramming (memorizing and studying are not similar y'know) and I hate that I can't tell this to people that they are wandering outside their paths. I go to school, listen to my professors while subject to self-learning ( I don't write notes, I scribble notes. I mean, I only write those terms I don't know, or rather ask it to the profs.) unlike most people do today, cramming and all, overly "bookish" and overacting-ly elaborating facts other than simplifying it.
    It's like giving a paragraph-size essay to an instruction of writing just a brief essay.

    Oh well, I don't think this is relevant, but its just me.
    Last edited by moy1moy1; 05-03-2011 at 12:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Says who? Says you?
    - me



    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Once upon a time, our "ideal" system in this country was a system composed of Spanish friars who maintained an iron fist rule over the Filipino people. Now that system is gone. One day, this current system you live in now, will also be gone, and replaced by a better one. Robinson is merely nudging us in that direction.
    hopefully. dako jud ug matabang ni kausaban sa mga pama-agi. from conventional to radical or to critical.



    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Perhaps in the school you graduated from, ing ana imong na experience--the schools I've been to, students are allowed to express what they want and they can argue against teachers without getting expelled or suspended. So ayaw i-generalize nga tanang schools are like what you say they are.
    perhaps Rods you're right by guessing. aren't you aware of yourself putting mouth to anybody tries to negate your ideas? -from soul doc


    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Manned moon landings are fact, not theory. It is your incapacity to understand basic principles of physics that lets you fail to accept this issue. And may I remind you that the manned moon landings are non-debate topic here in the science section--we here treat it as FACT--if you want to continue arguing about this, go to Soul Doctor's thread. Pag i mention pa nimo nga theory lang ang Apollo landings here, I'll give you a custom infraction.

    -RODION
    no need to argue here rods, I'm concerned about the current education system. We need to have Critical Thinking rods. I've learned that from USC.

    The main thought ani imo post rods is "What can we do to attain good education system?" hagit na nako nimo rods, d ba maestro man ka.

    Para nako as a law abiding individual, gi-download ko naman ni na animation. Ako jud ni ipakita sa ako mother in law na Principal sa usa ka tungha-an.

    how about you rods?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

    basa lang sa ko ani.. nindot na imo link sa RSA rods. salamat jud ani pag-post nimo,
    Last edited by THE SKULLS; 05-03-2011 at 12:47 PM.

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    Default Re: RSA Animate - Changing Education Paradigms

    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    perhaps
    Look it up. You don't seem to understand the definition of the word.

    -RODION

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    i'm a big fan of RSA animate and this video presentation pretty much tells the same story being told by the movie "3 idiots". That our current educational system is becoming more and more like a factory that produces workers/ employees and consumers.

    I recommend watching the RSA video "the surprising truth about what motivates us."

    I believe i am a victim of this system.

    "Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school."

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    we need to stimulate their minds more
    with the help of internet .
    they can search for any subject ,.

    and if they can spark the interest of teh person .
    that will make them wanting more ..

    and information should always be available ./anytime.

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    Default Re: Changing Education Paradigms:Yeah right!

    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    You're basically saying a child should NOT go against the will of the parents or have a choice (i.e change his/her religion, his/her beliefs and ideals in life, etc) in life, because he/she came from his parents and is part of that family.

    And I beg to differ--his work may actually be innate/indigenous/self-realized and not derived from anything he learned while being part of the traditional education system.

    -RODION
    Yeah right, children now a days want's to put their attention more in video games, let's not spoon feed them with knowledge but let them have what they want...

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